Re: [VOTE] Directory exiting Incubator

2005-02-07 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Alex Karasulu wrote: Hello, On behalf of the Apache Directory Project Team, this is a VOTE for Directory to exit the Incubator. +1 PS: I hate multi-list votes, let's do it on one mailing list only next time, *please*. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba

Re: [HEADS UP] Merging html site branch (was Re: New Incubator Site branch - sources in html)

2005-01-13 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
, regardless to the tone. I'd start getting really scared if they stopped altogether. ;-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [HEADS UP] Merging html site branch (was Re: New Incubator Site branch - sources in html)

2005-01-12 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
things harder without need :-/ In any case, if someone is less paranoid then me, he can switch all cwiki files to html by using the versions in TEMP_HTML ;-) (if they were not changed in the meantime). -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta

Re: [HEADS UP] Merging html site branch (was Re: New Incubator Site branch - sources in html)

2004-12-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
of the same under site-author/projects/TEMP_HTML. Please rename the original cwiki file to an html extension and copy inside the html contents, checking that all is ok before committing. TIA -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent

Re: [PROPOSAL] Nutch

2004-12-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
in months, especially WRT the community aspect. The search.apache.org part is interesting as well, and maybe it can be detailed a bit more. One thing... there need not be a single Mentor. I would propose that you, being already an Apache committer, be a Mentor as well. +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

[HEADS UP] Merging html site branch (was Re: New Incubator Site branch - sources in html)

2004-12-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I've created a branch [1] for the Incubator website, a rendered version of which is visible here [2] [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/branches/move2html4forrest/ [2] http://cvs.apache.org/~nicolaken/whiteboard/incubator-html/site-publish/ Given

What to do with FTPServer and AltRMI

2004-11-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
this to the Mentors and developers of these two projects. In practice, given that we have decided to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED], should I request the creation of separate mailing lists for these projects or not? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant

Re: Closing Incubator Depot Incubation

2004-10-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nicola, Would you please update the STATUS and site to refect this information? 'k Done. Should we shutdown the mailing lists and remove commit rights to the source? Not yet, this is a 'heads up'. Nobody objected, nor here, nor on the dev mailing

[Fwd: Re: Closing Incubator Depot Incubation]

2004-10-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nicola, Would you please update the STATUS and site to refect this information? 'k Done. Should we shutdown the mailing lists and remove commit rights to the source? Not yet, this is a 'heads up'. Nobody objected, nor here, nor on the dev mailing

Re: Closing Incubator Depot Incubation

2004-10-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nicola, Would you please update the STATUS and site to refect this information? 'k Should we shutdown the mailing lists and remove commit rights to the source? Not yet, this is a 'heads up'. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant

Closing Incubator Depot Incubation

2004-10-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
'. Objections? Comments? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Mentor and Project Guide (WAS: RE: [OT] How to prevent...)

2004-10-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
the docs in process via viewcvs. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Mentor and Project Guide (WAS: RE: [OT] How to prevent...)

2004-10-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
in the incubator. If you want to contribute, I don't think that there is nothing preventing you from asking commit rights. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Switch to Forrest 0.6?

2004-10-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
/ -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[VOTE] Remove the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailing list (was [Proposal]...)

2004-10-08 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: For small projects we have created a common [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Over time I haven't seen that a common list is needed, as all common requests go to the general mailing list. In essence, it's not working as the Jakarta commons mailing list, as because most

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Sep 29 23:45:23 EDT 2004

2004-09-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
be the private club. #asf could then have a list of other channels in the welcome message and/or topic. Personally I don't want to promote IRC as a means of communication: it's time-zone discriminating and noisy to read in the logs. If people have questions, we have mailing lists. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: Request for graduation and promotion to TLP

2004-09-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[Proposal] Switch to SVN

2004-09-13 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - - To unsubscribe

[Proposal] Remove the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailing list

2004-09-13 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
dev mailing list. Overmore it seems to be creating confusion in users that only some projects are in a separate list. Therefore I propose that we get rid of it and simply create the usual dev and cvs||svn||commits mailing lists for each Incubating Project. WDOT? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: MyFaces?

2004-08-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
resilient. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Accept JCR for Incubation

2004-08-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Roy T. Fielding wrote: Here is the current text of the JCR proposal from http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JcrProposal Please cast your vote as +1 (yes), -1 (no), or something in between. Vote ends 12pm (Noon) PDT -0700, Saturday, August 28, 2004. +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: Making Daffodil Replicator an Open Source : Suggestion

2004-08-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
ASF site. Of course, I'm willing to work on that. Perhaps I'll start something in a wiki somewhere and go from there? Look on the right hand side navigation of the Apache main page, and work on what you find lacking. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba

Re: Making Daffodil Replicator an Open Source : Suggestion

2004-08-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. I'm cross-posting to lists where there might be interest in helping you out on this. www.daffodildb.com -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Jul 21 23:45:19 EDT 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2003/11/11 00:01:00 $] Can we drop off this posting of a status file that is not and AFAIK will not be very live? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL

Re: [proposal] Lenya exiting Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrong to have one PMC controlling both cocoon and lenya because it would clearly be divided into two separate groups with little overlap. +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to address them, he can write to me personally, no problem with that. If you read the threads, you will notice that I have not taken part in this whacky one-way flamefest. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get

Re: [VOTE] Graduate SpamAssassin from Incubator, recommend TLP

2004-06-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sander Striker wrote: The SpamAssassin project has met the requirements for incubation and will be recommended to the board for TLP status +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just

Re: [VOTE] Graduate XMLBeans from Incubator and recommend as top-level project

2004-06-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Cliff Schmidt wrote: ... The XMLBeans project has met the requirements for incubation and will be recommended to the board for TLP status +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten

Re: [VOTE] Lenya 1.2 incubation distribution

2004-06-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... allow Lenya to put out a clearly marked incubation distribution +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Adding log4cxx and log4pgp to the Incubator web-site

2004-06-16 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
ready, so we can install and use that to generate the site automatically. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: The 50% Rule

2004-06-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Cliff Schmidt wrote: ... Sounds like we're all in agreement here (at least all those who have posted to the list in the last few days). I'm happy to be in 'violent' and silent agreement :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent

Move Apache faq to apache site?

2004-06-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Over here [1] there are some FAQs about Apache. I think that they are much better to be put here [2]. WDOT? [1] http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent

Re: Incubation tasks

2004-06-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
LICENSE.xopus nicola, could you change the umask? Deleted. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] incubation time

2004-06-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
we only accept projects the community size/diversity of which we would deem ok for graduation (as it has been IIRC always for Jakarta subprojects)? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code

Re: [RT] incubation time

2004-06-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to Snickers a high performance ASN.1/BER runtime and stub compiler based on NIO. For me, with a mentor hat on, that's all I need to see before kicking you outta here :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten

Re: Overall status of incubating projects

2004-06-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to this. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Geronimo from Incubator and recommend as top-level project

2004-05-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
I'm particularly confident that it will function well as a PMC. I'd also like to thank Geir in particular, and all other mentors for helping the project: this proves that when the people actually do stuff things happen. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Pluto Graduation

2004-03-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
jakarta would oppose, but a note there would be obviously done. The TBD in the page I posted are not obvious, and so I thought it would be better to ask here. AFAIK this has been the plan all along, it's not a problem... in fact, I had already included this in my board reports :-) -- Nicola Ken

Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

2004-02-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to license it as GPL, it still should not be an issue. In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL. http://www.apache.org/licenses/ http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

[Fwd: cvs commit: incubator/site/projects incubation-status-template.cwiki]

2004-01-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
| -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [REPORTS DUE] Status reports of Incubating Projects

2004-01-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The Incubator project board report is due in a bit more than a week, as the board meeting should take place on Wed, 21 Jan 2004, 10am Pacific [1]. Thus all Mentors should ensure that every Incubating Project sends in their project report during this week, so that we

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
/${project-name}.html As I have already told you :-) you have karma to it, but if you tell me the others that need access as part of the incubating projects, just ask. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just

Re: log4net incubation [was:] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
this work can do it. That's why we keep telling you (the volunteer) to just do it. No wonder you are confused. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
, which is not necessary. What do others think? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
as there is a recognizable benefit to moving. +1 (during the Incubation period all the Apache infratructure can be set up, but it doesn't mean that they have to use it, apart of course the Infrastructure Project resources and the ppmc list) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-12 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 11:49 AM 1/12/2004 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: ... From what I understand so far, I can't see any advantages for *log4net* to come through the Incubator instead of LS. http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html#does_project_X_really_need_Incubation http

Re: donation of project

2004-01-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Matt Liotta wrote: I didn't see a reply from anyone in regard to my message below. Just curious if the interested parties have seen it. Yes, thanks a bunch. You may want to announce it also here: http://jazilla.sourceforge.net/ They are workin on a Java-only browser. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: Updated WSRP4J cwiki page

2004-01-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Julie MacNaught wrote: I updated the WSRP4J page in the incubator site, but it needs to be regenerated. Any plans to do that soon? Yup, I saw that commit pass by a couple of days ago, I'll regen it in a few hours. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba

Re: PPMCs and oversight

2003-12-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: PPMCs and oversight

2003-12-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Aaron Bannert wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 12:44:40PM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The role of Mentor is a self-selecting title (eg. anyone wishing to become a Mentor and has the title to be one as described in our policy just adds themselves to the projects/index webpage + the project

Re: SpamAssassin status file

2003-12-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
, as the template is made so that you need just to replace values. In any case, here is the syntax reference. ... bigger howtos @ http://incubator.apache.org/ -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code

Re: PPMCs and oversight

2003-12-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
committers. Like you, I think I'd like to see them voted in by the PPMC. Again? They are already voted in with the proposal, so I don't see why they have to be voted in *again*. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get

PPMCs and oversight

2003-12-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Thanks for the useful suggestions.. Sander Striker wrote: On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 13:42, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... The status updates are posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED], prior ACK from any Incubator PMC member. Does this need an ACK? I reckon it would need a go-ahead from the community

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. If an extreme need for it arises, we can deal with it as an exceptional case, without it being part of pur normal policy. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] We are under incubation icon

2003-12-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Noel J. Bergman wrote: it would be nice to create We are under incubation icon See: http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png Here you can also find them in different sizes and background colors: http://cvs.apache.org/~nicolaken/whiteboard/apachelogos/ -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

[RESULT][VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
and manage things on your own. By the way, would you be interested in a position on the Incubator PMC to help out new projects? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to be undone once the project has graduated. I have already explained that this, in turn, creates other problems. Our goal is not only to settle in new projects, but to ensure that projects that should not proceed do *not* settle in right away. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL

Re: problems running forrest

2003-12-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
and publish the website for you if you make changes (I had done so last time). -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
hosted at their destination URL. Because they have started incubation without the rule. Our policy is not to change the rules to incubating projects if not extremely necessary. This thing is important but not critical, so it was not *that* important to do it. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: donation of project

2003-12-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
for it, feel free to contact me directly to see if we can find the right way to opensource it. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
) Who I need to talk to get the mailing lists, cvs repo, etc. set up. Send a note to infrastructure? Yes. Good work :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Trademark research results

2003-12-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
jaxmenus.com jaxmedicalpractice.com jaxmetal.com jaxmediaonline.com jaxmetroford.com ajaxmetal.com viajaxmenos.com ajaxmedia.com ajaxmetalstamping.com krackerjaxmedia.com Search for US federal or canadian trademarks found no results. DONE -- Nicola Ken

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
, you want to see Axion go through? Just do it. You and other axion committers have now access to incubator CVS. Fill_in_the_blanks. :-) http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/incubator/site/projects/axion.cwiki?view=markup -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
, after 72 hours after a board member ACKs it, he's in. Now it's all up to them. :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: Looking for help from incubation

2003-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
or logging PMC members, and we will add them to the Incubator PMC. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
#updating_the_project_website -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. In the meantime I'm helping to do this, so you should not wait long. In any case, it should be live now, please check. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-18 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
- status reports to the Incubator PMC are the means of reporting and are also posted on general I'm still thinking, but ATM I tend to believe that your scenario is better. :-) Others see problems with it? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta

Re: [VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Aaron Bannert wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:16:49PM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: [snip everything above that I agree with] :-) Incubator PMC members not engaged in active discussion and development on a project are on the project PPMC in quality of observers. They should refrain from

Re: [VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-16 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
indirections. Finally, the private pmc list should be a last resort mechanism, so we will not be doing normal project mentoring there. I think that the below proposal explains the PPMC in sufficient detail: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PpmcProposal -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. Question: doesn't this go contrary to wanting 1Project == 1PMC? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Leo Simons wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Hence I ask to vote It's a big thing to vote on all at once. Ok, got the message. In fact there are serious enough points to decide to split the vote. I still have question marks with some points. What I'm looking for is some signal that we

[VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to the archives. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-13 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Jason van Zyl wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 03:23, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... In any case, if the vote is positive, we can start using the new rules and continue discussing your proposal as a next step. No, I would ask that you don't continue as my vote will not be positive and at the very

[VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
it on to the Webservices PMC - Juddi: pass it on to the Webservices PMC - Lenya: pass it on to the Cocoon PMC - Pluto + Wsrp4j: pass it on to their sponsoring PMCs and suggest them to form a TLP when possible - XmlBeans: move to Xml PMC - Directory: create PPMC - Ruper: create PPMC -- Nicola Ken

Re: Clearing the air round Incubator and Ruper (was Re: projects incubated by the incubator PMC)

2003-12-11 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sander Striker wrote: On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 18:49, Brian Behlendorf wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: First of all, we are in the process of deciding and clearly documenting that only TLPs are to be incubated. Why? Because in Apache there are only TLPs. Thus, Ruper

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-11 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Adding the changes suggested by Sam. Still need input from AltRMI and FTPServer. Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I believe that the Incubator Reorg RT has brought us to very interesting conclusions, that I'd like to summarize here as a proposal, for which I'd like to ask a vote after some discussion

Re: Clearing the air round Incubator and Ruper (was Re: projects incubated by the incubator PMC)

2003-12-11 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Sander Striker wrote: There was a discussion on the board list at the end of 2002. What was basically the point was that every external codebase would come through Incubator. No exceptions (for obvious reasons). IIRC the conclusion

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-11 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
the Incubator first, then we can deal with that. I like this. IIUC it would also mean that the Incubator project members should subscribe to the committers-cvs list, to help monitor and maintain the checklist. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta

Clearing the air round Incubator and Ruper (was Re: projects incubated by the incubator PMC)

2003-12-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
that are in a limbo and that need their status reassessed, and projects that need to exit incubation. @see the [PROPOSAL] Incubator Reorg, as I will ask a vote on it very soon. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions

[PROPOSAL] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
also need to create additional documentation for point (3), and add all PMC chairs to the Incubator PMC. Fire at will. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Request for resources of incubator-ruper

2003-12-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
'. That should be it for now, TIA -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[Ruper] Incubation setup phase

2003-12-04 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
as the mailing lists are setup (it should not take much). -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sam Ruby wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: ... For that reason, I believe that there needs to be a clear distinction between PPMC members who are primarily observers and vetoers of last resort, and those who are active in the construction of the project. Is it really needed? I

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
the grant stuff. PMC chairs would simply track the status of the donation there. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sam Ruby wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... Lenya will become a sub-project of Cocoon. Or better, a sub-codebase of the same project. It's fair to assume that once incubation is finished, the Lenya codebase will go to the Cocoon PMC and that all Lenya committers will go in the Cocoon PMC

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
when Lenya leaves the Incubator, with the Incubator PMC dropped out. The PPMC is not a mechanism to teach Sam the The Apache Way, but used as I am describing it above, it would provide a structure for the Jakarta PMC to teach The Apache Way, and to help alleviate oversight issues. -- Nicola Ken

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
wicked Sam stuff in it that I still can't see ;-) Finally, this does not preclude that other projects can decide to employ the PPMC mechanism inside themselves, but that's not our problem. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent

[ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
. On to problem solving... -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
to strike a balance between self-governance and oversight. How is it to be done? Shoot. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Leo Simons wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: How is it to be done? Shoot. JFDI applies. I'm trying to recap, I had a hard time understanding some details in all the mails I'm reading. I think every PMC member and every ASF member that had something to say about the PPMC idea was basically

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
in disclaimers that the project is not finally in Apache, the project is in fact legally already *inside* Apache. I think I know where this is coming from ;-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
PROTECTED], so who wants to can easily track both changes to the wiki and to the site. Let's see what other think about this, so that we can have a vote on it soon and adopt it. Thanks -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent

Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg

2003-12-02 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 12/2/03 8:04 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: How is it to be done? Ditch the incubator bureaucracy entirely and have the sponsoring member go into the community, show them the light and then demonstrate to the PMC or governance

[VOTE:RESULT] Incubate Apache Ruper (was about Repo)

2003-12-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
detail, to sign up to the CVS diffs of the incubator site to be notified of changes in the incubation status of Ruper. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for Geronimo Project

2003-12-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
accountable for their decision. We are not deciding on the name but on the need or not to have a name change. In case for a name change, this will surely be the case. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for Geronimo Project

2003-12-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Aaron Bannert wrote: The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one of the following choices: [ ] - Let them keep Geronimo as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision

Re: Finalizing the new Project STATUS template

2003-11-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
for the Directory project, and we'll see how that looks? I was hoping to hear this :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains

[VOTE] Incubate Apache Ruper (was about Repo)

2003-11-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
probably be more than the prospected ones. Till now we have (except Roy's -1 about the name): dims +1 noel +1 Other votes? Are all PMC members on the general list? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten

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