Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 3 Jun 2011, at 23:01, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: If TDF decides at a later point to change to a compatible license, then this would open up additional ways in which we could collaborate, and we would welcome that as well. It's not

Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-03 Thread Ross Gardler
I popped into the LO IRC channel a few times Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 4 Jun 2011, at 00:39, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:23, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Added Education Project idea to the OpenOffice.org Apache incubator

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 10:30, eric b wrote: Hi, For the record, I added the Education Project idea on the wiki page (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal). The idea we defend since several years, is to work with High Schools and Universities, train students, detect potential good ideas,

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 11:39, Florian Effenberger wrote: I hope you don't mind if I jump in to the discussion. Thank you for doing so. Speaking as someone outside all the involved communities I'm pleased to hear your voice. I'm not equipped to answer your questions, I'll leave that to people who know

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 14:12, Ian Lynch wrote: On 2 June 2011 14:04, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote: Should we add ourselfs as commiters? If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the proposal on the wiki.

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 14:21, Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 2-6-2011 15:04, Greg Stein schreef: On Jun 2, 2011 4:32 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote: ... There is currently a bit rearagement movement toward figuring things out in TDF OOo previously to the OOo annoucement, which happened last

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 13:40, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi Ross, On 2011-06-02 at 12:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Instead I would like to understand if this technical objective of breaking OOo code into reusable libraries that the various forks can collaborate on, is part of the TDF mission. I am one

Re: Blondie's Parallel Lines...

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 16:22, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: ... I do have a question though. To me it's unclear whether the Openoffice project has any real development ressources. I see so far one developer and Rob, who I know to be a distinguished

Re: Blondie's Parallel Lines...

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 21:16, dsh wrote: Of course I now some more magic than just re-indent a codebase... that would be to easy to spot wouldn't it ;) Indeed, I inadvertently found what I believe to be the best approach. Commit an svn:props change to a template that is an svn:external in 30+ of ASF

Re: OpenOffice - Wiki - Required Resources - Subversion vs. Mercurial vs. Git

2011-06-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 02/06/2011 21:26, Christian Lippka wrote: Hello, The Open Office Proposal Wiki currently lists a subversion repository as a required resource. We already had subversion for some time as the repository for the main code and it didn't work well for a project this size. I do not like to start

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
Thanks for this exciting proposal. I have a few questions. There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why only two for such a large codebase? It's going to be very hard for two committers to manage and maintain this code. The proposal states Both Oracle and ASF agree

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 17:28, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: There is a statement that Oracle will assist in the transition and migration from OpenOffice.org., I am probably reading too much into it, but why is there not a statement that Oracle intend

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 17:29, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:21, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for this exciting proposal. I have a few questions. There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why only two for such a large codebase? Hopefully more

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 17:33, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Jukka Zittingjukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote on 06/01/2011 12:13:09 PM: Community OpenOffice.org. seeks to further encourage developer and user communities during incubation, beyond the existing developers currently working on the

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 19:51, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: dshdaniel.hais...@googlemail.com wrote on 06/01/2011 02:16:58 PM: ... And is it generally held to be a criterion for a podling to graduate or even initiate, that it first persuade all Linux distros to include it We don't care where it is

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 19:24, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote on 06/01/2011 12:21:23 PM: There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why only two for such a large codebase? We could have put a much longer list of IBM names on this list,

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 01/06/2011 22:26, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 17:20, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: On 01/06/2011 19:51, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: dshdaniel.hais...@googlemail.comwrote on

Re: [italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]

2011-06-01 Thread Ross Gardler
[cc'ing Italo and Louis hopefully they have joined the incubator list already, but just in case] On 02/06/2011 01:01, Jim Jagielski wrote: More info re TDF and LOo - Forwarded message from Italo Vignoliitalo.vign...@documentfoundation.org - Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:16:53 +0200

Re: questions on proposal I'm championing

2011-05-24 Thread Ross Gardler
On 24/05/2011 10:04, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi Nigel!!! 1) due my experience, I'd reply NO. The existing OGNL[1] project (ASL2.0 released with a long history) just joined the Incubator and the only rename it had was to Apache Commons OGNL[2] Although one needs to ensure that the name is not an

Re: [VOTE] Accept Airavata into the Incubator

2011-05-07 Thread Ross Gardler
With my +1 we have a count of: 20 +1's (at least 8 of which are binding, I've not actually cross checked all the names) Thanks for your support and comments. I'll get on with bringing Airavata into the incubator. Ross On 02/05/2011 22:32, Ross Gardler wrote: I would like to call a vote

Re: [VOTE] Accept Airavata into the Incubator

2011-05-03 Thread Ross Gardler
to actively explore this. As a side note - the W3C is looking for implementations of the WS-RA specs, which include Eventing... Airavata might be interested in participating in that. [1] Ditto Ross --Glen [1] http://www.w3.org/News/Public/pnews-20110502 On 5/2/11 5:32 PM, Ross

[VOTE] Accept Airavata into the Incubator

2011-05-02 Thread Ross Gardler
I would like to call a vote to accept Airavata for entry into the Apache Incubator. The proposal thread can be found at [1] and the proposal text is at [2] [ ] +1 Accept Airavata into the incubator [ ] -1 Do NOT accept Airavata into the incubator because... Thanks, Ross [1]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29/04/2011 05:02, Milinda Pathirage wrote: +1 for the proposal. I would like to contribute to this project. Yay! That's what we like to hear. We look forward to working with you. Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-29 Thread Ross Gardler
, Ross Gardler wrote: I would like to propose Airavata for entry into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal can be found at [1] and is copied at the end of this mail. For those in a hurry here's a quick summary: Airavata is a software toolkit currently used to build science gateways

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler
. Sent from my mobile device. Good stuff! Cheers, Chris On Apr 23, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: I would like to propose Airavata for entry into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal can be found at [1] and is copied at the end of this mail. For those in a hurry here's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 Apr 2011, at 20:45, Sagara Gunathunga sag...@apache.org wrote: Hi Ross, +1 and I would like to contribute for this project. Excellent. We look forward to working with you. Ross Thanks ! On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: I would like

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler
are in the incubator. Sent from my mobile device. Good stuff! Cheers, Chris On Apr 23, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: I would like to propose Airavata for entry into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal can be found at [1] and is copied at the end of this mail. For those in a hurry here's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler
(at the risk of package-naming challenges). Cool stuff - I remember Eran talking about this a couple of years back. Thanks, --Glen On 4/23/11 5:53 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: I would like to propose Airavata for entry into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal can be found at [1] and is copied at the end

[PROPOSAL] Airavata for the incubator

2011-04-23 Thread Ross Gardler
and organizations that are familiar with the development of open source. We expect that the amount of volunteer work will increase, and more developers will come on board. == Champion == Ross Gardler, Apache Software Foundation == Nominated Mentors == * Ross Gardler, Member, Apache Software

Re: [VOTE] Accept Rave into the Incubator

2011-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler
On 25/02/2011 00:08, Ate Douma wrote: [+1] +1 Accept Rave into the incubator +1 Binding - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Rave project

2011-02-24 Thread Ross Gardler
On 24/02/2011 23:11, Troy Howard wrote: In my opinion, a reasonable compromise would be to set it as a project goal to reduce corporate dependency on the committers list. I'm really confused where this is coming from. The goal of incubation is to generate sufficient diversity in contributions

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Rave project

2011-02-23 Thread Ross Gardler
On 23/02/2011 19:49, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 2/21/2011 5:18 PM, Ate Douma wrote: The Apache Rave project proposal is a joined effort of Hippo, the MITRE Corporation, the Open Gateway Computing Environments project (OGCE), the SURFnet SURFConext Portal project, OSS Watch, and several

Fwd: Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 Released!

2011-01-18 Thread Ross Gardler
Have our rules about branding podlings changed? More specifically, is the announcement below in keeping with those rules? Ross Original Message Subject: Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 Released! Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:10 -0600 From: Jerry Chen je...@apache.org To:

Re: Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 Released!

2011-01-18 Thread Ross Gardler
On 19/01/2011 01:10, Luciano Resende wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: Have our rules about branding podlings changed? More specifically, is the announcement below in keeping with those rules? Ross Original Message Subject:

Re: Setting up the Jena podling

2010-12-03 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm working with the Jena team to get everything ready on their side. Thanks for the help on the ASF side. Sent from my mobile device. On 3 Dec 2010, at 10:15, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: ...I hope

Re: Setting up the Jena podling

2010-12-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 3 Dec 2010, at 13:38, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: I'm working with the Jena team to get everything ready on their side. Thanks for the help on the ASF side. Where are we on ICLAs and user ID preferences? I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 from me, of course On 17/11/2010 13:10, Ross Gardler wrote: Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied below. [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation [ ] +0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject

[RESULTS] Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler
The result of this vote is: 10 binding +1 7 non-binding +1 Full summary of the votes are below. I'll start getting things set up - thanks for you support folks. Votes cast: Binding +1s === Alan Cabrera Isabel Drost Ant Elder Ross Gardler Daniel Kulp Benson Margulies Marcel

Re: [RESULTS] Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler
On 24/11/2010 00:45, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: FYI Ross, I also +1'ed this. Appologies. I must have missed that. Thanks for your vote and support, it's now recorded in the result thread. Ross Cheers, Chris On Nov 23, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: The result of this vote

[VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-17 Thread Ross Gardler
: Dave Reynolds, Ian Dickinson, Chris Dollin, Andy Seaborne * Talis Systems Ltd: Paolo Castagna * University of Bristol: Damian Steer * TopQuadrant Inc: Jeremy Carroll == Sponsors == === Champion === Ross Gardler (rgardler .at. apache.org === Nominated Mentors === * Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: Missing reports: DeltaCloud, Droids, HISE, ISIS, Kitty, Lucy, Stonehenge, VCL, Wookie

2010-11-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Re wookie I've notified the community and will report myself if necessary Sent from my mobile device. On 16 Nov 2010, at 02:17, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: That means we're still missing DeltaCloud (promised for tomorrow), Droids, HISE, Stonehenge, VCL, and Wookie. ---

Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Ross Gardler
In the case of Wookie mentors did not communicate the need for a report until yesterday and the lead developers are currently in the middle of a conference. Of course they should have spotted announcements here, but their still learning what to look for and what filters to have. I'll do a

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-13 Thread Ross Gardler
All, Resolving IP issues are a part of the incubation process not the acceptance process It is not necessary to delay entry into the incubator because some o these issues need to be satisfactorily resolved. The Jena developers are aware of this and have undertaken to do what is required in

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-12 Thread Ross Gardler
On 12/11/2010 09:40, Nick Kew wrote: On 8 Nov 2010, at 23:36, Ross Gardler wrote: I am pleased to offer, for your consideration, the following proposal to accept Jena, a semantic web framework into the incubator. The text of the proposal is copied here for your convenience and can be found

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stanbol for incubation

2010-11-10 Thread Ross Gardler
== === Champion === * Bertrand Delacretaz (bdelacretaz AT apache DOT org) === Nominated Mentors === * Ted Dunning (tdunning AT apache DOT org) * Ross Gardler (rgardler AT apache DOT org) * Upayavira (upayavira AT apache DOT org) * Isabel Drost (isabel AT apache DOT org) === Sponsoring Entity

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
As champion for Jena I agree in principle. I can't speak for the Jena team if course, but representatives are tracking this list and have started discussing in their project list. I will be making the formal Jena proposal here very soon (just as soon as I'm not limited to the iPhone) - its in

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
For me this proposal means we should be aware of possibilities. There is no intention of forcing collaboration on incubating projects. Each project should continue to work on it's own graduation. However there will probably be code that fan be shared. The sharif of appropriate code can only

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Nov 2010, at 18:15, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I sense an iPhone at work here. Would that be Omar Sharif? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: For me this proposal means we should be aware of possibilities. There is no intention

[Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
* University of Bristol: Damian Steer * Top``Quadrant Inc: Jeremy Carroll == Sponsors == === Champion === Ross Gardler (rgardler .at. apache.org === Nominated Mentors === * Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacretaz .at. apache.org * Leo Simons leosimons .at. apache.org === Sponsoring Entity

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
: Paolo Castagna * University of Bristol: Damian Steer * Top``Quadrant Inc: Jeremy Carroll == Sponsors == === Champion === Ross Gardler (rgardler .at. apache.org === Nominated Mentors === * Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacretaz .at. apache.org * Leo Simons leosimons .at. apache.org

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
* Top``Quadrant Inc: Jeremy Carroll == Sponsors == === Champion === Ross Gardler (rgardler .at. apache.org === Nominated Mentors === * Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacretaz .at. apache.org * Leo Simons leosimons .at. apache.org === Sponsoring Entity === Incubator PMC

Re: FOO proposal and Clerezza

2010-11-03 Thread Ross Gardler
It is correct that Jena will be submitting a proposal to the Incubator. I have the proposal now and I'm just waiting for their go-ahead to submit it. I guess it being on their public lists indicates that will come any day now. Sent from my mobile device. On 3 Nov 2010, at 06:31, Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache FOO proposal (IKS software)

2010-10-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28/10/2010 12:48, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FOOproposal - as you can imagine, FOO is just a temp name ;-) We're still looking for two additional mentors. I'm in, although I'm likely to limit myself to release reviews and such oversight, feel free

Re: Twitter widget on Apache project website.

2010-10-26 Thread Ross Gardler
The problem with pretty much all widgets provided by third parties is they track users and thus are not suitable for apache.org servers (not sure if that is policy or my preference). An alternative is to hack up our own widgets, perhaps using Wookie (incubating). There is a twitter widget in

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-23 Thread Ross Gardler
On 23/08/2010 10:08, Richard Hirsch wrote: Was there a particular reason why the three podlings were selected (thrift, sis, and esme). They all have Joe as a mentor and it is Joe who wants to drive this experiment. He feels that this will benefit those particular projects. Ross D. On

Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Ross Gardler
Over on the Clerezza project I've been asked some advice about a legal situation that I'm not 100% sure about, I'm pretty sure it's a simple case so I'm asking the IPMC rather than legal-discuss@ In short: - there is a few files that are part of an existing FOAF+SSL certification project

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-18 Thread Ross Gardler
On 18/08/2010 14:25, Carl Trieloff wrote: On 08/17/2010 07:48 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 17/08/2010 17:35, Carl Trieloff wrote: To this question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find myself not coming to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17 Aug 2010, at 03:29, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think that it is a very interesting proposal, that could work very well in specific circumstances, and I'd be willing to see it tried as an experiment, if the Board buys

Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment)

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17 Aug 2010, at 03:31, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 10:00:40 PM Subject: RE: Radical revamp (was: an experiment) Greg Stein wrote: Using

Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment)

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17 Aug 2010, at 03:53, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's optimized for success while making mentors potentially responsible for failure (iow a project with crappy mentors will fail no matter how much they grok apache). Still have doubts about escalating the graduation

RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm really worried about the growing meme that RAT is solving the IP management problem. It is not a solution, it is merely a tool that is useful for a very specific use case. All it does is do a pattern match for an Apache licence header in a bunch of files. It's really useful for checking

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Unlike the observer role. It's very close to the current signing off of board reports by mentors but forces them to do a little more than put there name to a piece of electronic paper. Personally I imagined my binding vote, as a mentor, to indicate a) the project debs want this tongi ahead

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Sorry damned iPhone autocorrect. First word should be I like Sent from my mobile device. On 17 Aug 2010, at 09:38, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Unlike the observer role. It's very close to the current signing off of board reports by mentors but forces them to do a little more than

Re: an experiment

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 05:32, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: I've already decided that I'm going to have to recruit a number of key mentors to help me protect the project during incubation. Historically, I think there are two classes

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 10:15, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. There have been a number of people who have stated things like (paraphrasing) IP management issues have largely gone away now we have RAT. I'm sure the statements are not

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 10:45, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 2010-08-17, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. It becomes dangerous if people start to believe it did more than scan for licenses. More specifically scan for *only* Apache

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 13:21, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.orggeneral@incubator.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.orggeneral@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 4:14:02 AM Subject: Re: Radical revamp

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 17:35, Carl Trieloff wrote: To this question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find myself not coming to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others on this question. The thread implies it comes down to the 3+ members on the project. It's not that

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 17:45, Joe Schaefer wrote: I do question the idea that just having 3 Members on the project and leaving them to their own devices will actually work well for the majority of our podlings. I don't think anyone is claiming it is right for the *majority* of podlings. Just *some*

Re: Resigning as Wookie Mentor

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Gavin, Thank you for all your help on Wookie to date. The kinds of contributions you have made (helping ensure that licence headers etc. are clear) are exactly the kind of contributions that are needed. You leave a legacy that will ensure that our release (when it comes about) will be more

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 02:05, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 16:47, Noel J. Bergmann...@devtech.com wrote: ... Your head is in the sand. The Incubator is a broken process. Everybody hates it. Everybody wants to get out of it. Subversion was fortunate in that we had enough support to bully

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 03:00, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think that it is a very interesting proposal, that could work very well in specific circumstances, and I'd be willing to see it tried as an experiment, if the Board buys into it. Do we have any such projects pending or already in the Incubator?

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Ross Gardler
On 10/08/2010 12:48, ant elder wrote: How about keeping it here at the Incubator? It could be a showcase project that demonstrates how to do things like releases, as well as an eat your own dog food type place to help avoid any unnecessarily burdensome IPMC processes and procedures ;) I

Re: A few questions about a potential entry into the incubator

2010-08-04 Thread Ross Gardler
Thanks for the responses. I'm moving forwards with this now. Ross On 27/07/2010 11:11, Ross Gardler wrote: I'm currently working with the community behind a large and established codebase that wants to enter the ASF Incubator. It is likely to be a while before we have the legal stuff sorted

A few questions about a potential entry into the incubator

2010-07-27 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm currently working with the community behind a large and established codebase that wants to enter the ASF Incubator. It is likely to be a while before we have the legal stuff sorted out but all indications are that it will be sorted. I do, however, have a few questions from the team that

Re: Incubator proposal template

2010-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29/05/2010 13:55, Tim Williams wrote: I wonder why the proposal template doesn't explicitly ask the proposers about their belief in the Apache Way? When I'm reviewing proposals I am looking for this in the proposal as a whole. There are plenty of places where this shows through, e.g:

Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-19 Thread Ross Gardler
On 18/01/2010 20:17, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Per the previous proposal that was sent to gene...@incubator, I'd like to now call a vote for accepting OODT into the Incubator. [X] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator Ross - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] OODT: a grid middleware framework for science data processing, information integration, and retrieval

2010-01-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Count me in as a mentor for this excellent proposal. Ross On 04/01/2010 19:46, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Hi general@, On behalf of the OODT community, I'd like to bring the following proposal for discussion within the Incubator. I've talked with Chris and Dave about bringing this project to

Re: Question for mentors: crediting the original project?

2009-12-01 Thread Ross Gardler
or similar. Ross Thanks! S -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Clerezza into the incubator

2009-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Clerezza

2009-11-20 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/11/20 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür reto.bachm...@trialox.org wrote: ...The full proposal can be found on the wiki at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ClerezzaProposal ... And we are looking for mentors! I've added

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] OpenMeetings

2009-11-18 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/11/18 Sebastian Wagner seba.wag...@gmail.com: we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. Full Proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Calling a vote is premature. Therefore my vote is -1. Your proposal does not yet have a confirmed

Re: How to shorten the duration of incubation (Was: Insanity...)

2009-11-12 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/11/10 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: 3) Increase the amount of mentoring: The lack of mentor time and better (not necessarily more) supporting documentation gives unnecessary administrational and procedural headaches (failed release votes, etc.) to many podlings. Without more

Removing an intial committer from Wookie

2009-09-08 Thread Ross Gardler
examples/how-tos, noted this in comments). This wasn't a big job; most of the code wasn't actually called by the current codebase and could be safely removed without being replaced. -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk

Re: Removing an intial committer from Wookie

2009-09-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Sorry to waste your time... I just went to remove this committer and realised they are not named as an initial committer after all. So no changes needed to the proposal. Ross 2009/9/8 Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org: During the due dilligence process for Wookie one of the named initial

Process for voting a new committer

2009-08-10 Thread Ross Gardler
Where is the process for voting a new podling committer documented? More specifically what is the IPMC notification process? Thanks Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk

Re: Diversity as an insurance policy (Was: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot)

2009-08-05 Thread Ross Gardler
seek more contributors? c) does the community know what it knows about the ASF (i.e. will it ask in unusual circumstances)? d) have the mentors been active in their mentoring and recommend graduation? If yes to all these points then we should graduate the project. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-08-04 Thread Ross Gardler
on the graduation of a podling on grounds of diversity of code commits needs to back it up with documented evidence that either a) the committers are not listening to the community or b) there is no active oversight from those with voting rights. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-08-04 Thread Ross Gardler
here, I've not personally looked into the health of the community. I trust the mentors) Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-08-03 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/8/3 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com: Hi, [x] -1, Apache Pivot is not ready to graduate, because... I'm not seeing sufficient diversity of active committers [1] and not too many people seem to be contributing patches [2]. My suggestion would be for Pivot to spend some more time

Re: IPMC non-performance bitchfest!

2009-08-02 Thread Ross Gardler
for the IPMC not the membership. I've moved this part of the discussion there. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: Wookie IP clearance

2009-07-23 Thread Ross Gardler
search engines in the UK and US (please provide other links too if you have them to hand). I guess the minimum check would be the US, with suggested checks in other territories. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk

Re: Wookie IP clearance

2009-07-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: In the wookie proposal I recommended that the consortium agreement for the donating project be examined to ensure that none of the other institutions can lay claim to any IP in the code. I now have a copy of the consortium agreement and can

Re: Wookie IP clearance

2009-07-22 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/7/22 William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net: Jim Jagielski wrote: Are we cool with the name 'wookie' as a mark?? ... The one thing that might be concerning is that most people will use a query such as; http://www.google.com/search?q=wookie+download and be lost in the approx 135k

Re: Wookie IP clearance

2009-07-21 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/7/21 Andrew Savory s...@andrewsavory.com: Hi, 2009/7/20 Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org: In my opinion this is sufficient for the ASF to accept this contribution (once (i)CLAs are in place). Speak up if you think differently. Looks good. You might want to cc the wookie-dev list, so

Wookie IP clearance

2009-07-20 Thread Ross Gardler
think differently. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

2009-07-19 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/7/19 Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au: -Original Message- From: ross.gard...@googlemail.com [mailto:ross.gard...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Ross Gardler Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 12:26 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

2009-07-17 Thread Ross Gardler
2009/7/14 Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org: I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache Wookie, a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension The full proposal can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WookieProposal I'm pleased to say that the IPMC has voted

Re: Maximum number of Mentors??

2009-07-16 Thread Ross Gardler
activities. Or perhaps the proposal should identify a lead mentor whose responsibility is to ensure nothing slips through the cracks. Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk

[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

2009-07-14 Thread Ross Gardler
://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7day=17year=2009hour=12min=0sec=0p1=136 Ross -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail

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