Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Where do you find this cfg-update? Thanks. On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-23 Thread Michael Rasile
On Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 06:55:11PM -0400 or thereabouts, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Where do you find this cfg-update? Thanks. On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Crawford
Gentoo.org forums, under Documentation, Tips, Tricks. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 On Thursday 23 October 2003 6:55 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Where do you find this cfg-update? Thanks. On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: IMO etc-update should make a backup

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, thanks. On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:58, you wrote: On Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 06:55:11PM -0400 or thereabouts, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Where do you find this cfg-update? Thanks. On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 Hope

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-22 Thread brett holcomb
Not that I'm aware of. I keep backups on another system and on tape so I can recover. I assume you've seen some of the suggestions in this thread about other programs that might make updating easier. One thing I do is run emerge sync and then emerge -uDp on system and world very frequently

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:49 am, brett holcomb wrote: Not that I'm aware of. I keep backups on another system and on tape so I can recover. I assume you've seen some of the suggestions in this thread about other programs that might make updating easier. snips If accidentally

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Donnie, Thanks for your advice. _ snip_ 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread sean m.
On 2003.10.21 02:17, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Donnie, Thanks for your advice. _ snip_ 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/ simultaneously afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi seam Thanks for your advice. sean m. wrote: - snip - Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use the '-5' option. I am not very clear of what the advice indicated then

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 05:24 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: I hesitate whether to proceed UPDATE as recommended if all config files will be rewritten. Not only adding extra work, but the difficulty to me is I am new to Gentoo only having it running for one (1) day. I am inexperienced to re-fix them back if Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Norm
Hall Stevenson wrote: Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again, when you run etc-update, it will

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 07:42 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Hall Stevenson wrote: Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again,

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread norm
You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. I agree, If I had been a

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread brett holcomb
Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let it loose. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:42:29 +0100 Norm [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 10:42 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let it loose. There's a few files,

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Hall - snip - I hesitate whether to proceed UPDATE as recommended if all config files will be rewritten. Not only adding extra work, but the difficulty to me is I am new to Gentoo only having it running for one (1) day. I am inexperienced to re-fix them back if Gentoo can't run properly

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:29 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Follow the prompts... Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100 norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 12:54 PM 10/21/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100 norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:23 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Off to Gentoo's bug submittal system to see if anything like this is already listed A search for etc-update turns up (18) results, many similar to what I'm referring to... Someone commented about *not* replacing files like /etc/fstab or /etc/issue and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:18 -0400 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread brett holcomb
Yes, but I haven't had much luck with that. At some time I might go back and work with it some more. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:33:07 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:18 -0400 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you have to look at what it wants to

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread brett holcomb
Yes - look at what etc-update displays. It gives options for updating all files automatically, selecting them one at a time or skipping them. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:29:56 +0800 Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hall Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Thanks B.R. Stephen --

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Michael Rasile
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100, norm wrote: You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current file(s) and appends a

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Crawford
For those interested, there's a great gui replacement script for etc-update on the Gentoo forum by xentric (with screenshots). He helped me tremendously getting it working, as my system was severely misconfigured, and I had problems. He has updated it with some things we discovered which will

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Michael Rasile wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100, norm wrote: You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
Michael Rasile wrote: I agree with what someone said earlier, is it really necessary to even offer to change /etc/fstab?? IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread David Friggens
* Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-21 13:18]: Someone commented about *not* replacing files like /etc/fstab or /etc/issue and the response was that we sometimes need to merge new information. I guess I have a different definition of merge... To me, merge would imply add to, not

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Doug Weimer
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 15:39, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick You can do this with two small changes. First, add the --backup option to mv_opts in /etc/etc-update.conf. Note: The default backup option will create a single backup named

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:14:46PM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Michael Rasile wrote: It's funny that you mention that. I'm not a newbie to Linux but I was to gentoo some months back when I did my first update and was told (nicely, of course! :-))to do an etc-update. Well, I never dreamed

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Crawford
IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 Rick, This is one of the features (among others) of using the cfg-update with the xxdiff gui

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Crawford
A more novice-friendly tool would probably benefit a lot of users. But it should be as an additional option for updating files as well as the current etc-update, not instead of it. Seeing as so many people are keen for such a tool it shouldn't be too long before someone writes one. Maybe the

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-21 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Brett, Thanks for your advice. If accidentally updating a /etc/~config file, is there any record to trace it, i.e. any record showing config files updated. B.R. Stephen brett holcomb wrote: Yes - look at what etc-update displays. It gives options for updating all files automatically,

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 01:25, Stephen Liu wrote: My questions are; 1) How to run update portage? Whether #emerge -u portage will do the job Yes. Even 'emerge portage' will. 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the

[gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-16 Thread Jure Turk
so I got the network running in gentoo finally (the original e100 didn't work in the actual distro but only in the installation so I installed the driver from my motherboard CD). I installed it from stage3...how can I update my system? (bootstrap,packages,...the works!) ? Tnx

Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-16 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jure Turk wrote: so I got the network running in gentoo finally (the original e100 didn't work in the actual distro but only in the installation so I installed the driver from my motherboard CD). I installed it from stage3...how can I update my system? (bootstrap,packages,...the works!) ?