[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:19:09PM +0100, Nelson, David J wrote: > >> Do we want a UNIX standard? A linux standard? A Gentoo standard? A lowest >> common denominator standard? A "what most people prefer" standard? > > I am not talking about which co

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 03. Apr 2007, 21:17:39 -0700 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? > > Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre > colors scattered all over my screen? I did not read the whole thread. So this

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ a lot of good replies ] > I am really disgusted. Very well said! Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love withcolorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 April 2007 10:58 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love > withcolorizedoutput?!? > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:27:48PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild always dev-java/swt-3.2-r2

2007-04-04 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi, On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:59:21 +1200 Bogo Mipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2007, you wrote: > > everytime I run revdep-rebuild, it wants to rebuild > > dev-java/swt-3.2-r2 . When I do this, it emerges fine, but > > revdep-rebuild still complains. > > > > It states, that > > broke

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild always dev-java/swt-3.2-r2

2007-04-04 Thread Dale
Bogo Mipps wrote: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2007, you wrote: > >> everytime I run revdep-rebuild, it wants to rebuild dev-java/swt-3.2-r2 >> . When I do this, it emerges fine, but revdep-rebuild still complains. >> >> It states, that >> broken /usr/lib/libswt-awt-gtk-3232.so (requires libjawt.so) >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild always dev-java/swt-3.2-r2

2007-04-04 Thread Bogo Mipps
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007, you wrote: > everytime I run revdep-rebuild, it wants to rebuild dev-java/swt-3.2-r2 > . When I do this, it emerges fine, but revdep-rebuild still complains. > > It states, that > broken /usr/lib/libswt-awt-gtk-3232.so (requires libjawt.so) > > Looking for libjawt.so, I got th

Re: [gentoo-user] avidemux?

2007-04-04 Thread Nick Rout
w avidemux svn, I'll try that tonight and see what happens. In fact I could log in from work I suppose, will report back later ;-) On Thu, April 5, 2007 10:15 am, Robert Walter wrote: > hi > try http://berkano.net/bits/2006/09/20/gentoo-overlay > best regards robert > > On Wednesday 04 April

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Mittwoch, 4. April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:29:42PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:09:30 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: > > > Exactly. So, MHO is that it would be better if all the output from > > > console apps was just plain text with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find eth0?

2007-04-04 Thread Chuanwen Wu
2007/4/4, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Chuanwen Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I rename eth3 to eth0? Modify the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to suit your needs. Yeah,I change eth3 to eth0 and it works!Thank you! > Or if I use eth3,what do I need to do to f

[gentoo-user] Need to identify USB device by port

2007-04-04 Thread Mike Diehl
Hi all. I need to identify a device using udev by looking at which USB port it is plugged into. The device doesn't have a serial number and I've got two of the same type of device which I need to discriminage against. My first try was a udev rule like: (each on one line.) BUS=="usb" SYMLINK=

[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild always dev-java/swt-3.2-r2

2007-04-04 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Hi, everytime I run revdep-rebuild, it wants to rebuild dev-java/swt-3.2-r2 . When I do this, it emerges fine, but revdep-rebuild still complains. It states, that broken /usr/lib/libswt-awt-gtk-3232.so (requires libjawt.so) Looking for libjawt.so, I got this result: equery belongs libjawt.

Re: [gentoo-user] avidemux?

2007-04-04 Thread Robert Walter
hi try http://berkano.net/bits/2006/09/20/gentoo-overlay best regards robert On Wednesday 04 April 2007 21:55, Nick Rout wrote: > Can anyone point me to an overlay or other reliable source of an ebuild > for avidemux that isn't hard masked and that "just works"? > > > -- > Nick Rout > -- gento

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When devs think it good to colorize everybody's > terminal without regard to long established UNIX custom of using just > simple plain text, I am told that gentoo is not UNIX. Good grief, > what an attitude! > The Gentoo devs did not invent colourised text. It has be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Chris Scullard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You personally probably don't deserve any criticism. But the gentoo dev community certainly does. That's the real world. Republicans lost the 2006 elections because they were tainted with the policies of their president and their party and because they preferred to s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Dan Cowsill
On 4/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:04:20PM -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: > A good rule to follow before posting to forums or mailing list is the > '24-hour rule.' The 24-hour rule states that if you are angered or > otherwise emotionally charged, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 21:59:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The output you've posted in your other mail comes from the package > > app-portage/getdelta. It could very well be they don't respect the color > > setting and forece it. > > > > try to unset the FETCHCOMMAND in your /etc/make.conf >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:27:48PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: > Would you please show a little respect to the people who developed > the software you use every day. I have found that people are fine, it is groups of people who cause the problems in the world. The gentoo dev community has a reputa

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Benno Schulenberg
b.n. wrote: > However /etc/portage/color.map looks just like what I was > thinking about... except for the fact I can't find it (and > "locate" tells me nothing too). I made a man page for it once. Don't know if it's still accurate: https://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=89762 Benno -- g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:04:20PM -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: > A good rule to follow before posting to forums or mailing list is the > '24-hour rule.' The 24-hour rule states that if you are angered or > otherwise emotionally charged, you should wait 24-hours before sending > off your email. Fee

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello b.n., > > I have felt no need to do the latter, but all the others work for me, > > as does editing /etc/portage/color.map. > > I was just thinking of suggesting portage to use and honour colour > themes? -this would please both him (using a plain no colour theme) and > us wanting eye c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Exiting on signal 2 > # TERM=vt100 emerge -f digikam > I'm not sure why you expect that to work as the DEC VT100 was an ANSI terminal - i.e. it supported the ANSI control codes. Those are the codes which set colour, etc.. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Dan Cowsill
It seems to me that we're ignoring the function of applying colors to a program's output. It's not because of the bent appeal of myriads of colors flying around. It's because the devs needs to contrast the important output from the unimportant output. Now, I could agree that sometimes the devs

[gentoo-user] avidemux?

2007-04-04 Thread Nick Rout
Can anyone point me to an overlay or other reliable source of an ebuild for avidemux that isn't hard masked and that "just works"? -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Ryan Sims, > > > > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor' > /etc/portage/package.keywords > > > > emerge -av heliodor > > > > > > Do the following, instead :) > > > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor ~amd64' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords > > > > Either will work. If no arch is given in package.keywords, it > > de

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
Harm Geerts wrote: > switch to Paludis If you want to see something truly horrific, try "USE=pink emerge paludis". ;) Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:19:39PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2007-04-04, Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> My point is that why should you have to edit something before > >> you can get legible output from something as basic as "ls". > >> Why not default to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread b.n.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:26:47PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2007-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre colo

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread b.n.
Neil Bothwick ha scritto: I have felt no need to do the latter, but all the others work for me, as does editing /etc/portage/color.map. I was just thinking of suggesting portage to use and honour colour themes? -this would please both him (using a plain no colour theme) and us wanting eye can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
Grant Edwards wrote: > My point is that why should you have to edit something before > you can get legible output from something as basic as "ls". > Why not default to a _useful_ condition? > It's VERY legible on all of the systems I administer - but, then, I use the text-based console, not som

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
And also for the record -- # emerge -pv portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3 USE="doc -build -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="pl" 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:10:49PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote: > `which emerge` does actually yield `/usr/bin/emerge` does it? For the record, then -- # which emerge /usr/bin/emerge # grep -i color /etc/make.conf NOCOLOR="true" # echo $TERM screen and here are a zillion ways of trying to disable

[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> What's your locale set to and what keyboard layout do you use? > > de_DE.UTF-8 > pc105, de, nodeadkeys Allright, that got me thinking, as that's, more or less, the basic configuration I've got on one system as well. It turn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Ryan Sims
On 4/4/07, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:57:01 +0200, Francesco Talamona wrote: > > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor' > /etc/portage/package.keywords > > emerge -av heliodor > > Do the following, instead :) > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor ~amd64' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords E

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:57:01 +0200, Francesco Talamona wrote: > > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor' > /etc/portage/package.keywords > > emerge -av heliodor > > Do the following, instead :) > echo 'x11-wm/heliodor ~amd64' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords Either will work. If no arch is given in package.key

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:53:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why? all you're doing there is changing to a different default colour > > scheme (one where all text is the same). I really don't see the point > > in changing, when I suspect the majority prefer colours. Switching > > colour on and o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:55:20 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > Except "forever" only lasts until the next emerge replaces > /etc/profile. Emerge never replaces files in /etc unless you use dangerous, non-standard settings. -- Neil Bothwick Windows isn't a virus -- viruses do something! sig

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:56:07PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2007-04-04, Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> At least ls's color comes from that damned alias. You can at least > >> use "/bin/ls" or prefix each command with "TERM=vt100" to get rid of > >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Harm Geerts
On Wednesday 04 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:19:09PM +0100, Nelson, David J wrote: > > Do we want a UNIX standard? A linux standard? A Gentoo standard? A lowest > > common denominator standard? A "what most people prefer" standard? > > I am not talking about whi

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-04-04, Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> At least ls's color comes from that damned alias. You can at least >> use "/bin/ls" or prefix each command with "TERM=vt100" to get rid of >> them temporarily, or "unalias -a" to get rid of them permanently per >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:26:47PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2007-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? >> > >> > Why does the damned thing de

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 17:53:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (b) Switching color off is easier than you might imagine, since all of > the following DO NOT WORK: > > TERM=vt100 > > |less > > NOCOLOR=true > --nocolor > --color=n > editing /usr/bin/emerge to always set havecolor = 0 They all work f

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:19:09PM +0100, Nelson, David J wrote: > Do we want a UNIX standard? A linux standard? A Gentoo standard? A lowest > common denominator standard? A "what most people prefer" standard? I am not talking about which colors to use, which is a personal preference and can hav

[gentoo-user] Re: Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Francesco Talamona
> echo 'x11-wm/heliodor' > /etc/portage/package.keywords > emerge -av heliodor Do the following, instead :) echo 'x11-wm/heliodor ~amd64' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords Bye Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.20-gentoo-r4, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Sun Mar 25 09:20:13 CEST 2007 One 1GHz AMD At

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At least ls's color comes from that damned alias. You can at least > use "/bin/ls" or prefix each command with "TERM=vt100" to get rid of > them temporarily, or "unalias -a" to get rid of them permanently per > login, or edit /etc/profile to get rid of them permanently f

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Jan Seeger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To add my 2c to this discussion: I am using the latest stable portage for amd64 (2.1.2.2) and portage respects the --nocolor options. And I am sure that a non working argument to portage would long ago have been reported as a bug. So either you

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Rob Rutherford
On 4/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And if ALL THESE CAPS distress you and you think I am shouting, well goodness gracious, NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT COLORIZATION RUN AMUCK. Caps don't distress me, but they do encourage me to add you to my junk mail filter.

RE: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Nelson, David J
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 April 2007 16:53 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with > colorizedoutput?!? > > > > (a) The unix standard for ages has been simple plain tex

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:26:47PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2007-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? > > > > Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre > > colors scattered all

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:29:42PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:09:30 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: > > > Exactly. So, MHO is that it would be better if all the output from > > console apps was just plain text with the option for people who want > > colors to enable and custom

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 01:37:55PM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: > >> Both portage (that includes emerge) and revdep-rebuild seems to honour >> NOCOLOR=true if put into /etc/make.conf. >> > > No they don't. They do here. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@

Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Walker
Dave Jones wrote: > I just tried your update process and ended up with the same failure. > Seems you might be right about the gentoo-sources being incompatible > with the tarpit module. > > I installed the TARPIT and GEOIP modules using PoM just a few days ago on two servers. Both are using gent

Re: [gentoo-user] Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 04 April 2007, Dan Cowsill wrote: > Hello list, first time postage here. Welcome ! > Right, so I installed Beryl a little while ago on Gnome, and for the > life of me I cannot either find the elusive Heliodor theming manager > to apply a new theme or figure out a way to apply Beryl-s

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 01:37:55PM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: > > Both portage (that includes emerge) and revdep-rebuild seems to honour > NOCOLOR=true if put into /etc/make.conf. No they don't. I have had that line since the day I first noticed it, and I still get unreadable color output

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:09:30 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: > Exactly. So, MHO is that it would be better if all the output from > console apps was just plain text with the option for people who want > colors to enable and customize colors, wouldn't it? Why? all you're doing there is changing to a di

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? > > Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre > colors scattered all over my screen? Yea, nothing is quite as readible as yellow or bright gr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Alexander Skwar wrote: > What's your locale set to and what keyboard layout do you use? de_DE.UTF-8 pc105, de, nodeadkeys Regards mks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Heliodor?

2007-04-04 Thread Dan Cowsill
Hello list, first time postage here. Right, so I installed Beryl a little while ago on Gnome, and for the life of me I cannot either find the elusive Heliodor theming manager to apply a new theme or figure out a way to apply Beryl-specific themes using another tool. So what's the deal here? I u

Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target

2007-04-04 Thread Daniel Iliev
Dave, I'm grateful for all your ideas and everything you did to help me and to confirm my results. I'm postponing this little experiment of mine until I have more free time. Thank you, guys, I appreciate your replies! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works fine for me (Gnome 2.16.2, Metacity 2.16.3). What's your locale set to and what keyboard layout do you use? Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

RE: [gentoo-user] RE: RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: 04 April 2007 03:18 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] RE: RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using > the window list > > Wayne Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Wayne Oliver
I find the coloured output useful, as for me it adds readability. If you don't like the defaults edit them to no colour or something "more sane" for you. I agree with Alexander I predict a riot if the colour were removed by default. Cheers Wayn0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find eth0?

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Chuanwen Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I rename eth3 to eth0? Modify the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to suit your needs. > Or if I use eth3,what do I need to do to fix it? > Cause after I changed eth0 to eth3 in cond.d/net and added eth3 to > rc-update,when I boot up

[gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Daniel Iliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly. So, MHO is that it would be better if all the output from > console apps was just plain text with the option for people who want > colors to enable and customize colors, wouldn't it? It might have been. But now that the stuff is all in IMO very n

[gentoo-user] RE: RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Wayne Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's one that may sound silly but... :) > Are you sure your shift key works? i.e. do other key combinations with > the shift key work? YES IT DOES :-) Sorry for shouting... *g* Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Daniel Iliev
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 12:15:40 Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > >> Why not create a better color scheme and submit it as a bug report? >> > > Because a 'better' color scheme is a subjective thing. You aren't going to > satisfy everyone and as Neil pointed out yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find eth0?

2007-04-04 Thread Chuanwen Wu
2007/4/4, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wednesday 04 April 2007 02:30:32 Chuanwen Wu wrote: > # ifconfig eth0 > eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found ifconfig -a Maybe it's a different name. Yes!I got eth3. You can, of course use custom udev rules to na

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 12:15:40 Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > Why not create a better color scheme and submit it as a bug report? Because a 'better' color scheme is a subjective thing. You aren't going to satisfy everyone and as Neil pointed out you can already define your own color scheme. Si

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 09:32:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Weren't you talking about portage? In that case you should obviously file > > it against portage.. But yeah, any app that has a --nocolor equivalent > > that doesn't work deserves a bug report.. Even for apps that don't it's > > reaso

RE: [gentoo-user] RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: 04 April 2007 12:36 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the > window list > > Wayne Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[gentoo-user] RE: Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Wayne Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar >> Thanks. Any idea, what might be wrong on my systems? Strange thing >> is, that those systems are on different hardware and also different >> build options and all that. > > Take a look

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Alexander Skwar wrote: > Thanks. Any idea, what might be wrong on my systems? No. I'd check if System / Einstellungen / Tastenkombinationen shows something strange and whether this doesn't work on a completely fresh user profile either. Regards mks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Alexis Lahouze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Gerasimenko a écrit : > On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:32:45 +0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:36:49AM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: [snip] >> >> The UNIX standard for ages has been simple text output. Why must >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:32:45 +0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:36:49AM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: Weren't you talking about portage? In that case you should obviously file it against portage.. But yeah, any app that has a --nocolor equivalent that doesn't wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find eth0?

2007-04-04 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 02:30:32 Chuanwen Wu wrote: > # ifconfig eth0 > eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found ifconfig -a Maybe it's a different name. You can, of course use custom udev rules to name it however you wish, but features like etherenet over USB and ethern

Top-posting etc. (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu)

2007-04-04 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 18:15:07 Bayrouni wrote: > Sylvain Chouleur a écrit : > > 1) I'm sorry but don't understand what 'top post' means > > When you reply don't write your message at the top but at the bottom. > just at the bottom. > > In other words, write at the last line. Well, that's somew

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 23:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip: Rant re: portage's stupid color behavior] Amen. I'm not sure *exactly* what the solution is, but portage needs help in the color department. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find eth0?

2007-04-04 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Chuanwen Wu wrote: > I have a intel network device but my machine never reconize it. > > My network device is: > > # lspci | grep net > 01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit > Ethernet Controller (rev 02) What does 'dmesg | grep -e 01:0a -e eth' report? Have you read /usr

[gentoo-user] Re-enable konqueror right click -> Create New menus

2007-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Anyone know which config setting/package/feature enables the Create New sub menu in the konqueror pop-up menus? I recently trimmed my konqueror right down to remove cruft and now when I use it as a file manager, right-click -> Create New is mostly empty. There's just an (empty) Link to

Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) LiveCD server edition and some stage packages for i686

2007-04-04 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 04. 4, szerda keltezéssel 09.18-kor Neil Bothwick ezt írta: > Why would anyone want to install a distro built on April 1st? ;-) > :) Neil, you are absolutely right :) But some people are lazy, others are only curious :) For example in Hungary (my country: I mean I do not owned, I'm only H

Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) LiveCD server edition and some stage packages for i686

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:53:15 +0200, Pongracz Istvan wrote: > It is ready to install from CD to harddisk, like an install livecd. > It is based on portage snapshot made on 1st of April. Why would anyone want to install a distro built on April 1st? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick "I'm Not Sure If I'm Homo

[gentoo-user] (OT) LiveCD server edition and some stage packages for i686

2007-04-04 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Hi, I created a livecd with some server and other applications: mysql, postgresql, dovecot, postfix, sendmail, mailman, apache, webalizer, php, perl, cvs, ftp, subversion, webmin, virtualmin(gpl), spammassism, clamav, samba etc. X is not installed (yet). It is i686 optimized (via 'march' option).

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: 04 April 2007 09:34 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the > window list > > Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Could you guys please check, if ++ works for you? >> What should happen is, that if you hold down and then hit >> a number of times, you switch forward through the list. If you hold >> down AND and then hit a number o

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:36:49AM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: > Weren't you talking about portage? In that case you should obviously file it > against portage.. But yeah, any app that has a --nocolor equivalent that > doesn't work deserves a bug report.. Even for apps that don't it's reaso

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Alexander Skwar wrote: > Could you guys please check, if ++ works for you? > What should happen is, that if you hold down and then hit > a number of times, you switch forward through the list. If you hold > down AND and then hit a number of times, you should > go backwards. > > Does that happ

[gentoo-user] Gnome: Switching windows backward using the window list

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello. In Gnome (2.16 and earlier and later), you can switch forward through the available windows on the current workspace by hitting +. Going backwards should be possible by hitting ++, just like it is on MS Windows. However, ++ for some reason doesn't work on my machines in Gnome. When I hit +

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Roy Wright, > The beryl negate feature is good for interactive viewing of > these insane color schemes (using both bright yellow and > dark blue in foreground means one or the other will be > impossible to read regardless of background color). http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Remap_Portage_Colors