Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Mick
On Friday 09 October 2009, Stroller wrote: > On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:10, Paul Hartman wrote: > > ... > > With SD cards, often times there are no partitions. So if you create > > proper partitions sometimes it won't read in other devices/computers. > > (in linux terms that means you would format /dev/s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Dale writes: > > >> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key >>> > > >> That's the one. I think its either the second or third key that makes >> it go back to a console. It is nice to know about. I have it taped to >> my wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:22:05 -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Note you can also nest commands when using $(), which you can't do with >> backticks. > > You can nest commands with ``, it's just less intuitive; each of the

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Note you can also nest commands when using $(), which you can't do with > backticks. You can nest commands with ``, it's just less intuitive; each of the following are equivalent: echo $(echo $(echo $(echo $(echo foo ec

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/lib/ccache/bin does not exist, big deal?

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
> > I'm emergin system and world after a little while, maybe 4 months, I got > directory does not exist /usr/lib/ccache/bin > > I search a bit, and it seems that ccache accelerate compiling. > So it's seems to emerge anyway in a good way. > What should I do to kinda make it better ? Just create tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
>> Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where >> you pop the key lids off to wash them then forget where to put them >> back > > That explains it, I just put the whole keyboard in the dishwasher. > > That may sound stupid, but it's not as bad as using Cc: on mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: PC as USB client

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
> Not really specific to gentoo, except that I want to do this with a Gentoo > PC: Is it possible to attach my Gentoo PC 'G' to another PC 'W' (running > Windows) via USB, so that G appears to be a removable media to W? I think > you need special USB cables with some electronics in the middlle for

Re: [gentoo-user] New laptop is slow.

2009-10-08 Thread Beau Henderson
G'day, Grant wrote: I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro 1320 laptop. It has a 2.2Ghz Core Duo CPU, 3GB RAM, and a 7200RPM hard drive. Navigating within firefox is pretty slow. It's the response time of the application, not the network. It's much slower than my previous laptop w

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:10, Paul Hartman wrote: ... With SD cards, often times there are no partitions. So if you create proper partitions sometimes it won't read in other devices/computers. (in linux terms that means you would format /dev/sda not /dev/sda1) Uh, unless SD cards are seriously goof

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:33:01 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > But nowhere near as clear. > >> Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key

[gentoo-user] /usr/lib/ccache/bin does not exist, big deal?

2009-10-08 Thread laurent
Hi, I'm emergin system and world after a little while, maybe 4 months, I got directory does not exist /usr/lib/ccache/bin I search a bit, and it seems that ccache accelerate compiling. So it's seems to emerge anyway in a good way. What should I do to kinda make it better ? Just create that fol

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> > Am Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 schrieb Mick: >> >> What's the best way to reformat a USB stick? It currently shows th

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Mick
On Thursday 08 October 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 schrieb Mick: > > >> What's the best way to reformat a USB stick? It currently shows thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Large update blocked

2009-10-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Doug Hunley wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 23:15, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> Is there a sane way through this update? > > > > Just remove eselect-news. From looking at eselect's ebuild I deduce that > its > > functionality is taken over by eselect itself. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 schrieb Mick: > >> What's the best way to reformat a USB stick? It currently shows this in > > > > I remember from SD cards that formatting them with L

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:17:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly > > the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it moving :) > Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where > you pop the key lids off to wash

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:34:37 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > > > But nowhere near as clear. > > > >> Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key > >> above TAB and to the left of 1. > > > > I r

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 schrieb Mick: >> What's the best way to reformat a USB stick? It currently shows this in > > I remember from SD cards that formatting them with Linux often was to no > avail - Windows wouldn't recognise the

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 schrieb Mick: > What's the best way to reformat a USB stick? It currently shows this in I remember from SD cards that formatting them with Linux often was to no avail - Windows wouldn't recognise them, neither with the fs on the device itself, nor with a partition

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 11:02 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:27:57 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do remember using nested $() commands... Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at lea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:27:57 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: > > I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do > > remember using nested $() commands... > > > > Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at least) anyway? > > Hopefully not!

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 09:33 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): But nowhere near as clear. Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key above TAB and to the lef

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do remember using nested $() commands... Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at least) anyway? Hopefully not! It's just two key presses to type "``". "$()" takes 4 (shift+4+9, command, shi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:33:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > > > But nowhere near as clear. > > And it's q

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:30:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper > > right. > > Also marked PrtScn. > > > It moves around though. > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:33:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > But nowhere near as clear. And it's quicker to type "$(" - muscle memory - than to do the whole hunt- pe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper >> right. > > Also marked PrtScn. > >> It moves around though. > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): But nowhere near as clear. > Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key > above TAB and to the left of 1. I rest my case :) Note you can al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper > right. Also marked PrtScn. > It moves around though. I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it movin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alex Schuster writes: > >>> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >>> >>> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB > > And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? On US keyboards SysRq is usually on the Print Screen key. (like Break is on t

Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep

2009-10-08 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
William Hubbs schrieb: That is correct, in the latest version this is how it works. You shouldn't have to remove the flag file though. Yes, you're right. I overlooked the rm command in the init script. Bye... Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alex Schuster writes: > >>> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >>> >>> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB > > And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? > > > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper right.

[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Schuster writes: >> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >> >> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New laptop is slow.

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:33 PM, James wrote: > kashani badapple.net> writes: > > >> >>> I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro > > >> Now that it's working how do you like the screen, size, etc? That's one >> of the laptops I've been considering. > > > You just have to admire and hon

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 build failure

2009-10-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:41:14 -0400 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > I had a failure while building/installing gnome and I am not sure what > the failure is. Here is the first mention of trouble Just for the heck I redid the emerge --newuse --update --with-bdeps=y world It started with gnome-user-docs,

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 06:28 PM, James wrote: One final question. When I run this command: emerge -1 $(qlist -I x11-drivers) I get this error: 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers' is not a valid package atom Please check ebuild(5) for full details. Try: emerge -1 $(qlist -I x11-drivers) And it's usually quicker

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James
Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > Probably the colors screwing everything, as always. Try searching the > qlist man page for something like --nocolor or --color=never. Yep: emerge -1 $(qlist -IC x11-drivers) works just fine thx James

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Hung Dang
Thanks a lot Volker. I can emerge nvidia-drivers after resync. Hung Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Hung Dang wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I updated my system yesterday today and find out that the latest >> nvidia-drivers requires old glbc version 2.5. I have goggled

[gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 build failure

2009-10-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I had a failure while building/installing gnome and I am not sure what the failure is. Here is the first mention of trouble /bin/sh /var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs-2.26.2/work/gnome-user-docs-2.26.2/install-sh -d /var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs-2.26.2/image//usr/share

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:28:12 + (UTC), James wrote: > Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > > >> You can't since you want to use ati-driver/fglrx. The fglrx is not part >> of >> the kernel, it's only shipped in the form of a binary-only closed source >> kernel module. fglrx doesn't need (and mos

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James
Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > You can't since you want to use ati-driver/fglrx. The fglrx is not part of > the kernel, it's only shipped in the form of a binary-only closed source > kernel module. fglrx doesn't need (and most likely will fail as you see) > the in-kernel radeon drm driver. S

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:22, KH wrote: ... as a matter of fact, you *can't*. I once formated a USB stick as swap (is it 82 or 83?) and used it in Linux as swap. (very little ram on the old vaio I used.) There was a second partition as raiser(?) and also 82 or 83. Anyway later I wanted to use it

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 15:56:57 James Ausmus wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Dale wrote: > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: > > >> James Ausmus wrote: > > >>> Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter > > >>> is

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: > > > >> James Ausmus wrote: > >> > >>> Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter > >>> is harmless... > >>> > >>> > >>> -James > >>> > >> OK. Attac

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread KH
Daniel Quinn schrieb: Then when you're back at the prompt, run: # mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 ...if sda is in fact your key. You can even add "-L LabelName" to attach a label to the stick: # mkfs.vfat -L "USB Stick" /dev/sda1 Hi, from man mkfs.vfat: -n volume-name: Sets the volume name (lab

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: > >> James Ausmus wrote: >> >>> Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter >>> is harmless... >>> >>> >>> -James >>> >> OK. Attached is the WHOLE file. At least it is not really reall

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb: It may not be standards-compliant, but at least is is consistently broken. In some way this is funny and makes me smile. kh

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread KH
daid kahl schrieb: The stick will be used in MSWindows mainly. In that case, I'd play safe and format it in Windows. Ah booo! You're formatting it anyway, so there's no data to lose, and I can't imagine you'd break it by trying to format it. Try it in Linux first and let us know how it goe

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:19:44 +0200, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > I have the weird habit to trust portage, as it works great 99.9% of the > time (is that a bug ?). I usually don't read elogs as I usually don't > need it. If you trust portage you should read and follow the the advice it gives

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:34:39 +0900, daid kahl wrote: > > > The stick will be used in MSWindows mainly. > > > > In that case, I'd play safe and format it in Windows. > Ah booo! You're formatting it anyway, so there's no data to lose, and > I can't imagine you'd break it by trying to format it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 11:19:44 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > Selon Alan McKinnon : > > On Wednesday 07 October 2009 06:34:06 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > Thanks all for the help. Finally the problem was solved by re-compiling > > > all X11 drivers used, and most notably xf86-inpu

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
> > The stick will be used in MSWindows mainly. > > In that case, I'd play safe and format it in Windows. > > Ah booo! You're formatting it anyway, so there's no data to lose, and I can't imagine you'd break it by trying to format it. Try it in Linux first and let us know how it goes. I never f

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: > >> James Ausmus wrote: >> >>> Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter >>> is harmless... >>> >>> >>> -James >>> >> OK. Attached is the WHOLE file. At least it is not really reall

Re: [gentoo-user] Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Alan McKinnon : > On Wednesday 07 October 2009 06:34:06 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > Thanks all for the help. Finally the problem was solved by re-compiling all > > X11 drivers used, and most notably xf86-input-keyboard & xf86-input-mouse. > > I still think that any package update t

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 08 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: > James Ausmus wrote: > > Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter > > is harmless... > > > > > > -James > > OK. Attached is the WHOLE file. At least it is not really really huge > or anything. I tried to rebuild a few thing

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 failed:

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
James Ausmus wrote: > > > Still further back. :) The warning message about the label parameter > is harmless... > > > -James OK. Attached is the WHOLE file. At least it is not really really huge or anything. I tried to rebuild a few things but it still fails. The log is the latest failure so i

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:31:50 +0100, Mick wrote: > The stick will be used in MSWindows mainly. In that case, I'd play safe and format it in Windows. -- Neil Bothwick Sisko:"I won't be condescending to you this episode, Dr. Bashir." signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: PC as USB client

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:08:08 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > It says there is no driver or software installation necessary. When > connected, a data transfer program will open automatically. Does this > mean there is some program that is executed automatically when > connecting, or is this just the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-10-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: > Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: > >> [...] >> >> thanks for the list ... after checking my backups I now added your list, >> edited a bit and started emerging. And now this: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-2.26-upgrade.xml ;-) I will check