Re: [gentoo-user] From rsync to git: sync-uri is invalid: https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/gentoo.git

>> gentoo.conf.bak and it was reading it instead of gentoo.conf. It sort >> of works like package.use and such. Make sense? I'm beat over here. lol >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> > > Hi Dale, > > thanks fo

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

at phone at a great discount...! Me: I have a top-flight company phone as a tool of trade, plus a notebook, plus a modem plus 2 x 24" hires screens Them: E ... how about a great deal for you wife? Me: The company gives me a second SIM for my spouse, same benefits Srsly, that happened. And some people have no idea when they are driving down Hopeless Street :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

On 26/01/2017 17:35, Peter Humphrey wrote: > (Sent via webmail while I continue wrestling with KMail...) > > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote : > >> Does explicitly emerging gdbus-codegen-2.50.2 then re-running a world >> emerge give a different result?

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

ot conflict with x11- > base/xorg-server and x11-drivers/xf86-video-amdgpu, but one thing at a time. > gdbus-codegen-2.50.2 has been around since mid-Nov, so I can't see why portage wants to give you 2.48.2. Does explicitly emerging gdbus-codegen-2.50.2 then re-running a world emerge give a different result? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

work > well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle > that has a compatible java? > > BillK > Sounds like Oracle's latest "commercial usage" clause, whatever that is Follow Neil's advice, it also worked for me -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Online Banking: How can I add an eth0-interface for a guest (linux) in qemu via commandline

On 15/01/2017 14:52, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [17-01-15 13:40]: >> On 15/01/2017 13:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> for the purpose of online banking I want to install Linux on an USB-stick. &

Re: [gentoo-user] Online Banking: How can I add an eth0-interface for a guest (linux) in qemu via commandline

e > internet. > > How can I acchieve what I want? When you log into the guest OS and look at the network config it does have, what do you see? What interfaces, routes, etc etc does it actually have once booted? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd good or bad?

et aside about a week to read them, and another month to form an opinion. Short answer to the question you asked: It's still controversial. Some like it, some don't. There are two camps. There is no consensus. Just thought of something: are you trolling? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Perl 5.24.1

umips > atheos darwin esix4 greenhills irix_6_0 > mips opus sco sunos_4_0 unicos > aux_3dcosx fps haiku irix_6_1 mirbsd > os2 sco_2_3_0 sunos_4_1 unicosmk > bitrig dec_osf freebsd hpuxisc mpc > os390 sco_2_3_1 super-ux unisysdynix > Which of these apply, if any? [linux] > > You appear to have ELF support. I'll try to use it for dynamic loading. > If dynamic loading doesn't work, read hints/linux.sh for further information. > It's prompting you for input. Press Enter -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VirtualBox failed to rebuild

orked well. > > # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > bash: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory > > $ eix dkms No man. A simple google search would have told you this is a Debian/Ubuntu feature and has NOTHING to do with Gentoo. It rebuilds modules on debian. The gentoo way is emerge @

Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox failed to rebuild

earch for it, it's compiler output The rest of your post is not really helpful -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

On 05/01/2017 06:46, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 04/01/2017 22:25, Daniel Frey wrote: >>> On 01/04/2017 08:30 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 18:11:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Using t

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

so always used --deep, but I've seen this many times. I've > recently started using "--with-bdeps=y" as well, and I don't think I've > seen this happen since then, so I'm guessing binary deps are the culprit. > > Arve > bdeps are not binary deps, they are build deps. And

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

On 04/01/2017 22:25, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 01/04/2017 08:30 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 18:11:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>>> Using the --deep switch can / does pull in a lot of seemingly extra >>>> packages. >>> &

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

A is in world, and A depends on B which depends on C. C is updated in the tree, and usually you will want C updated. However, update world will NOT update C. Why? Because "world" is not a synonym for "everything", "world" is something quite literal - the exact contents of /var/lib/portage/world (and /var/lib/portage/world_sets if present) "update world" updates that list only. Adding --deep follows the dependencies of the list, basically meaning "update --deep world" IS a synonym for "everything" -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] The Tao of Portage ... again

e readable...? > I am only a simple human being and my ideas for more and more clones > of "The Tao of Programming" just to add some humor are limited... > :) > > Ah! By the way: Happy new year! :) :) :) > > Cheers > Meino > (slightly shifting and coughing) > You have "PYTHON_TARGETS=-python3_4" set for pulseview You need to make it PYTHON_TARGETS=python3_4 Add python_single_target_python3_4 to package.use for pulseview in the usual way -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] squidguard db directory

then /var/lib/squidguard is better Me, I think of these things as data so I'd go with the latter -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New box

2 disks and 3 interfaces. And plenty vertical space to spare. 1920x1080 monitor of course :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird warning message when emerging gcc

vel:gcc-5.4.0-r2:20161229-080856.log: * Python seems to be broken, attempting to locate CHOST ourselves ... /var/log/portage/sys-devel:gcc-5.4.0:20161009-182055.log: * Python seems to be broken, attempting to locate CHOST ourselves ... The 4.x series is fine. I suggest file a bug -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

, fifty years ago. Not now though; that one's long since been >> lost. > > I'm British, lost causes are a speciality. > > lost causes like trying to get KMail-5 working? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

unicate, not so that natural language parsers can have an easy time or grammarians can sit smugly and "be correct". The people created English, let the people decide what is proper -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On 28/12/2016 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I >> will be wrong > > Peter seems to have become the list's statutory grammar pedant, so much >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On 28/12/2016 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I >> will be wrong > > Peter seems to have become the list's statutory grammar pedant, so much >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

singular and plural? Wasn't always like that, it became that way and now it's the correct form. Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I will be wrong -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 27/12/2016 01:02, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 26/12/2016 21:42, lee wrote: >>> Well, I guess you haven't realised yet that reality doesn't exist. >>> Bubbles are a self-imposed limit for those who believe in rea

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

languages are imprecise, heavily overloaded and hugely redundant. So are our spellings. But we are stuck with it because that's the general emergent behaviour of a homo sapiens brain. Arguing abut this is about as nonsensical as arguing about whether "lee" is a good handle on a forum or not. To a pedant it's a bad name, one can't tell if you are male, female or if it's actually an Asian family name Or one could do what most folk do, and not see a problem with 3 letters -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

ose individuals. There is no need to disparage someone else just because their frame of reference differs from yours. Alan p.s. You have a very long way to go still before you begin to match Dale's contributions here. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

that it only shows up if >> you have > >> Generally you want to read those BEFORE you go installing packages, >> since it may pertain to a package you're about to update. > > Updating usually affects over 200 packages. What's a good way to read > the news in advance?

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

erface names anyway, and how many of >>>> those are in a shell with tab completion that takes care of it for >>>> you? >>> >>> None of them are, and I don't type the names. They require copy and >>> paste, or very careful and tedious typing after looking them up. >> >> Well, if you're scripting them, you only need to do it once per >> interface, surely? That might be less work that setting up ifrename, but >> use whatever works for you, your choices include, but are not restricted >> to, and in no particular order. > > The issue comes up every now and then when I need to do something with > network interfaces. The unrecognisable names waste my time because they > are unrecognisable, and that's really all they do for me. > >> Learn how the predictable names work >> Disable the feature entirely and hope the eth0 names work as expected >> Use udev rules >> Use ifrename >> Some combination of the above. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

you can > reply to the systemd and the wayland issues separately... > Doesn't it strike you as curious that the 4 extra wayland packages consume 8.5M installed (sans size of sources in distfiles) and for 18 months no-one has raised nary a whimper about it, whereas recall the giant whinge-fest a while back about a few 10s of harmless unit files (text), each less than one fs block? For the record, openrc user here on Gentoo; systemd on Ubuntu at work (no feasible choice with Ubuntu) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

hing. I noticed that I > have it installed likely for the same reason, and it isn't like it > will start running on its own. But, I'm not sure yet whether you can > avoid it. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

; [ebuild N ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-6::gentoo 63 KiB > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug -doc > (-selinux) -static-libs {-test} -user-session" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB USE=systemd is of by default for dbus so yu have something switching it on. grep -r systemd /etc/portage to find what Additionally, virtual/tmpfiles has this: RDEPEND=" || ( sys-apps/opentmpfiles sys-apps/systemd Because you have systemd on somehow, portage is picking the second chice. You have the first, so explicitly emerge opentmpfiles. If both of those grep -r commands return nothing, then your next avenue is your selected profile must be enabling wayland and systemd somehow. But I don't see how profile [1] would do that ... so the greps will likely reveal the true cause -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On 21/12/2016 11:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 19:24:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Looks like a reasonably straightforward set of blockers. Your core >> problem seems to be that portage wants to install kmail:4 but if I read >> you correctly earlier in

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 20/12/2016 20:22, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 20.12.2016 um 19:08 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> No. This is incorrect. > > Yes. This is correct. > >> eth0 is the first card found by software, and not always the one you >> think it is. > > But you already heard of

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

ptic. > >> Just an example. The real mess with systemd is that it violates the good >> ol' Unix culture. Especially by "capturing" udev. Thanks to Gentoo for >> eudev!!! > > That's also true but not the only problem with systemd. > > Heiko Baums > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

install kmail:4 if that's not what you are after? please re-run the emerge command with option -t that produced that wilco file. p.s. I have a strong hunch that the time has now come where kmail:4 simply cannot co-exist with KDE-5 anymore... I see a few more things you can look at, but one thing at a time -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

in the past it's always been eth0. > >> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports. > > Not sure where you buy your machines, but that is simply wrong. The vast > majority of *home* users machines are single port machines. > > and every rack server I've bought or

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

bolting a declarative layer on top of init scripts, as in the boilerplate you mentioned. The truth is, as designs go, sysvinit is a /terrible/ design. It only lasted 30 years because it forces all the tricky bits to be someone else's problem -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

uch as audiocd-kio. I'm stuck on SLOT 4 for the time being as amarok is still codes for KDE-4 libs (unless there's a 5 version in some overlay). This is all ~arch, so we are the ones who get to file the bug reports. I advise just work through the blockers till the latest batch of versions settle down and are all done. As for your executable problem, what are the owners/perms of the relevant file? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 18/12/2016 23:34, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 18/12/2016 18:47, lee wrote: >>> Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: >>> >>>> The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

everyone else" knew about. Things like future roadmaps, planned features, and the individual personal preferences of each dev. I guess I'll saying don't be too quick to shoot from the hip - more looking less assuming is often the better path. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 18/12/2016 01:58, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-12-17, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But the VMS I like most are the FreeBSD ones; they run good >> old-fashioned rc. > > It's been a while since I ran VMS, but it had little very resemblanc

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 17/12/2016 20:22, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 17.12.2016 um 16:44 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> It's not Neil's job to solve your problems. It's your job. >> >> Neil isn't offering a solution to you, he's trying to guide your >> thoughts in a direction where you can se

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage vs Qt

ecause it has some stamp of approval :-) It's correct because it's the easiest way out of a tricky problem that is really hard to solve any other way. It's a lot like doors - removing them is not exactly what they were built for but if you need to get a 92cm couch through a 90cm door the only way to get that extra 2cm is to take the door off it's hinges :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

right, and they are only answerable to their users. Nowhere does it say Red Hat has to listen to you and write code for your benefit; also nowhere does it say that Red Hat is permitted to stop you doing whatever you want. So now you know what your job is, get cracking. Started coding yet? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualbox documentation

On 08/12/2016 22:41, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Thursday, 08. Dec 2016, 17:35:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 08/12/2016 14:36, Bertram Scharpf wrote: >>> On Thursday, 08. Dec 2016, 00:21:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> On 08/12/2016 00:01, Bertram Scharpf w

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualbox documentation

On 08/12/2016 14:36, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Thursday, 08. Dec 2016, 00:21:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 08/12/2016 00:01, Bertram Scharpf wrote: >>> arrgh! I just want to find a quick-start tutorial for >>> Virtualbox on Gentoo, but Google shows up loads

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: newish vbox gentoo guest crashes from startx

On 08/12/2016 02:26, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 07/12/2016 17:34, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> Setup: >>> >>>gentoo 32bit vbox guest on win 10 64bit host >>>Installed xorg-server, lxde

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

edia-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.9.0[qt4?,qt5?] > (>=media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.9.0[qt4,qt5]) required by > (media-libs/phonon-4.9.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following > section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Working/Portage#Blocked_packages > > tortoise ~ # > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualbox documentation

ugh. The oracle docs are very good and quite complete Do you have specific questions that you want a tutorial to answer? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

On 07/12/2016 20:57, Alan Grimes wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> So why are you running it? > > Do I really need to answer that? > I want my system upgraded and the gentle approach isn't working -> try > the rough approach. > > > I think a significant issu

Re: [gentoo-user] newish vbox gentoo guest crashes from startx

On 07/12/2016 17:34, Harry Putnam wrote: > Setup: > >gentoo 32bit vbox guest on win 10 64bit host >Installed xorg-server, lxde Meta pkgs and deps >(along with many other pkgs ... to many to list >here but included at the end) > > uname -a: > Linux g0 4.8.8-gentoo #2 Fri Nov 18

Re: [gentoo-user] Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

On 07/12/2016 15:47, Alan Grimes wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 07/12/2016 15:03, Alan Grimes wrote: >>> Certainly there are groups of packages in the 439 that could be updated >>> without triggering these conflicts but then doing that automatically >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

again or even mention it, not unless you want all of gentoo-user all over your case again -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else having trouble with x11-libs/cairo?

="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"} Installed versions: 1.14.6^t(19:08:54 15/11/2016)(X glib opengl svg xcb -aqua -debug -directfb -gles2 -static-libs -valgrind -xlib-xcb ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32") Homepage:http://cairographics.org/ Description: A vector graphics library with cross-device output support Also what is your global setting in USE for "threads"? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Very small email sender thingy

n everything. > > Does anyone know of such a little beasty or is this the reason I've > been looking for to learn Python? > > Thoughts greatly appreciated, > > Andrew > ssmtp config file is something like 6 lines :-) and none of that sendmail m4 crap either -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: `sets' & sets.conf

gt; class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet >> world-candidate = False >> files = /usr/src >> >> then emerge -n @kernels > > This one kind of sails right over my head... not seeing what is > supposed to happen. > > [...] > > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@

Re: [gentoo-user] vm still grinding away at compiling webkitgtk-2.14.2

u using, and can you use memory ballooning? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: elog default lifespan

e > capacity. So I'm asking about inside the elog program... what happens > to the logs and when. > > elog only appends to the log files. If you want rotation etc, use logrotate -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] `sets' & sets.conf

. Think of it as sort of like a magic meta-package that you define - a set gets merged as a unit and where you unmerge it, the sets is out of world and depclean will take care of removing the members. Simple as that. I'm not aware of anything in FEATURES related to sets, you just use them out the box. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get nginx serving pages?

>> http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html#listen >> >> I would suspect for your internal network use-case, you'll want: >> >> listen *:80; > > Yes, but for two things: > > 1. With links on the same host I specified

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

On 01/11/2016 00:27, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:06:07 -0400, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 31/10/2016 23:57, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:37:50 -0400, >>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>>> >>>> D

Re: [gentoo-user] make -j for kernel builds?

s your auntie. Build issues tends to get fixed during the dev period so when Linux releases a kernel there's an excellent chance it will build correctly. FWIW, none of this is a specially difficult problem. It's the kind of thing I'd expect bright CS students to be able to do at the end of the first year -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Small computing recommendations?

Debian, Mint, or Slackware would be > tolerable. > Those devices are dirt cheap, ask for one of each :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommend a good replacement for XFCE?

er real work stuff goes on the small monitor. This won't suit Grant though, as he said his nVidia card can't big desktop across 3 physical 1600 monitors -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommend a good replacement for XFCE?

ject E17. It ha very little in common with E16 other than lots of bling :-) E17 has steadily moved forward after taking 10 years for any release of any kind and is now up to 0.21.2 - there is no E18 or E19 or whatever they are all subsequent releases of E17. Gentoo has this in SLOT 0.17 It's all terrible confusing :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

On 17/09/2016 21:17, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 09/17/2016 12:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 17/09/2016 17:16, Robin Atwood wrote: >>> On Saturday 17 September 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>>> What a peculiar odd thing to say. You might wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

On 17/09/2016 17:16, Robin Atwood wrote: > On Saturday 17 September 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> What a peculiar odd thing to say. You might want to revisit your word > >> choice there. > > > > Perhaps you're right. Unfortunately I don't have the time cur

Re: [gentoo-user] Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

rd choice there. A better expression might be "if I have KDE4 installed and don't want to have KDE5, then due to the fact that upstream does not support KDE4 at all and that few if any gentoo devs are interested in maintaining KDE4 ebuilds, blockers and deps have now tipped over the edge and mathematically there is no valid update path left. Oh dear; the devs did say if I wantot carry on using KDE4 that bitrot will bite me. I guess that happened now." Because that is probably what happened. You let your computer stay static will the ecosystem moved on, and now you get to keep all the broken bits. It sunds crude but at this point you are on your own. Someone needs to maintain those ebuilds so that the system can continue to work, your best choice right now for who that person is, is you. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 5 : missing icons

rth a look and a try - hey you nothing to lose :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] About "make install all" when kernel building

cond entry and clearly label it as the old one. Then you can select it if the new one does fail to boot. It's easier that way than trying to edit it in grub's editor -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

On 08/09/2016 00:12, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 07.09.2016 um 08:18 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 07/09/2016 01:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.09.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

iptables are done you're >> fixing the barn doors after the horses have already left. > > > I said I was under attack but it was really just an unthrottled and > very greedy bot. fail2ban would have gotten him. But while we're on > the subject, how would you recommend thwarting a DDoS attack against a > dedicated server in a hosted environment? Cloudflare? A proper DDos? Phone your ISP and ask them to help you. You almost certainly don't have the resources. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash?

and moves deleted > emails into a different mailbox; not that I've ever seen a mail server > do that), therefore changing the locale on the mail server won't help > and it is indeed something on the client that needs to be changed. > Or maybe wastebin in "empty wastebin" is a simple common noun whereas the folder called "Trash" is a proper noun. KDE widgets in my experience often have oddities like this. If it's something like that, you may have to find the file containing display strings and change it there -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

gs. And the kernel has never guaranteed any mapping at all between device order on the bus and node names. Deal with it, live with it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

On 07/09/2016 01:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 01.09.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: >>> 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: >>>> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: >> [

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

this. Ossec with it's active response is also good. There are quite a few more tools in this space, and they all work much the same way - scan logs looking for dodgy stuff going on the dynamically apply a packet filter rule. The software also does it all day every day, and that's a record you the human can

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

e > > I did not. So, it is a bug in a almighty Grand Unified Boot Loader! or the MUCH more likely: you did it wrong. That's something you seem to do a lot of. You might want to look into that. Also the bit where you listen to others who have done it right. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

On 06/09/2016 21:39, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-06 22:08 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:01 PM, gevisz wrote: I have already looked into this file but did not find where to set the UUID of the root partion. It depends. :) Usually you end

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] -print0 but with 'locate'

's no reason to not use find, then you get all the -print0 goodness that you *really* need. The alternative is to struggle endlessly with bash quoting rules to get quotes around your filenames and quote the arguments to md5sum. Or some magic with awk (all of which is many many times more cpu work than your objection to find) So use find :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

On 01/09/2016 10:49, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-01 10:30 GMT+03:00 Matthias Hanft : gevisz wrote: But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big hard drive into smaller logical ones? If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to repair it), *all* of your data is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

On 02/09/2016 00:56, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Wed, 31 Aug 2016 02:32:24 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: On 31/08/2016 02:08, Grant wrote: [...] [...] You can't control ownership and permissions of existing files with mount options on a Linux filesystem. See man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

On 01/09/2016 22:08, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:47:22 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:34:55 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: Surprise surprise, 4.7 has this (still not fully fixed) oom-killer bug. When I'm running virtual machines, it still

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

On 01/09/2016 10:44, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 10:23 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger <war...@gmx.de>: >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >>> And a few more to mkfs it. >>&

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

ike you have to hold its hand >> while mkfs is running. > > But I would have to keep my fingers crossed so that > there would not be a sudden blackout during the formatting > hard disk anyway. :) Even if it does, so what? Unplug, start over. It's a mkfs, it lays down where the inodes are. You can do it over and over and over and over safely -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>: >> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: [snip] >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >> And a few more to mkfs it. > > Just to partitio

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

re than a Microsoft invention from the 80s so people could install UCSD Pascal next to MS-DOS -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

On 01/09/2016 05:42, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: >>>>> Is there a >>>>> filesystem that will make that unnecessar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: Is there a filesystem that will make that unnecessary and exhibit better reliability than NTFS? Yes, FAT. It works and works well. Or exFAT which is Microsoft's solution to the problem of very large files on FAT. FAT32 won't work for me since I need to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

n used in a Windows machine the driver there has issues with the FS. Remount it in Linux again and all is good. The cynic in me says that Microsoft didn'y implement their own FS spec properly whereas ntfs-ng did :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

ks". > Something intrigues me about this thread: If the file in question is so valuable and expensive, why don't you make another copy of the original onto a new USB stick? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

On 30/08/2016 12:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: You should elaborate more and be specific on what you mean by "The reason is an intermittent series of apparently unrelated things going wrong." Here's one then: In KMail (yes, I know*)

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

On 30/08/2016 14:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:08:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: ext2 doesn't have a journal, that's why I suggested it in the first place. My point was against all the journalised filesystems (that includes NTFS), not against your advice ;) OP

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

advice ;) > OP is looking for an fs to put on a memory stick that will work everywhere: - vfat - exfat -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

On 30/08/2016 11:25, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 00:07:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Don't forget that @system only lives in a context, and the context is a >> real computer. >> >> Out of context it's just a list of strings. In context, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] python-updater: depclean removes it?

On 29/08/2016 21:29, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/29/2016 03:08 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: Did something change recently? I was doing some updates and noticed app-admin/python-updater was removed. It's still in the tree but the system decided it was no longer needed - was it removed from @system?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

On 29/08/2016 21:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:04:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I remember someone (Dale?) some time ago being dismayed at the large number of packages that would be installed by emerge @system. Now I see what he meant: on this box 401 of the 1103 installed

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

k --verbose) and the real cause is often obscured inside a longer sentence. Practice I guess. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

e same problems you mention. I did it mostly to prove to myself I still have what it takes, but it sure wasn't worth it for any other reason. The box gets updated about monthly now - it has a small number of routine arch packages found on a LAN, and updates maybe 20 or so packages a month. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

On 16/08/2016 19:14, Willie M wrote: > On 08/16/2016 03:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: >>> >>>> Please post the output of layman -l >>> alunduil >>> java >>> pentoo >>> science >>> sunrise

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