Would someone mind and take a look?
As mentioned in the former thread (I decided to start a new one) I can't
login to Gnome via gdm right now ... when running the system with
systemd (it worked before with openrc, could check back, yes ...).
I created a brand new user to rule that out, same beha
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2013-02-01 20:39, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> Having an empty log is also weird; mine says:
>>
>> Jan 30 01:19:20 centurion polkitd[1614]: Started polkitd version 0.110
>> Jan 30 01:19:22 centurion polkitd[1614]: Loading rules
Am 06.02.2013 08:19, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Sorry for answering so late; long weekend in here.
No problem ... I had other issues here and so far it is just OK to use
xdm.service instead.
btw. even with xdm there is a pretty slow startup of gnome (time between
hitting enter after the pass
Am 06.02.2013 12:58, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> I will retry this asap ... but not right now ... maybe later this day.
did not work, no real different output.
In /var/log/messages I have:
Feb 6 16:34:15 hiro gdm-launch-environment][24620]:
AccountsService-DEBUG(+): ActUser: session not fo
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 06.02.2013 12:58, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> I will retry this asap ... but not right now ... maybe later this day.
>
> did not work, no real different output.
>
> In /var/log/messages I have:
>
> Feb 6 16:34:15 hiro gdm-lau
Am 06.02.2013 18:18, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> What's the difference between the users stef and sgw?
sgw is my everyday-user with dozens of dot-dirs cumulated over years. It
is the user I work with every day.
stef is a new and "empty" user I created lately to check things with
this gdm-top
Next episode:
I also migrated my gentoo thinkpad to systemd today.
Generally very similar to my desktop ... ~amd64 with Gnome 3.6.
Things went pretty well, I have to say.
I can login to gdm here! ;-)
An issue I haven't solved yet: encrypted swap.
I always get timeouts as systemd waits for th
Am 2013-02-09 19:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> AFAI understand these 2 lines should be enough to let systemd generate
> its relevant unit-files etc.
>
> Right?
Additional thoughts:
Is pam_mount obsolete with systemd?
It is possible to mount my /home via systemd-unit as well ... the
diffe
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> Next episode:
>
> I also migrated my gentoo thinkpad to systemd today.
Cool.
> Generally very similar to my desktop ... ~amd64 with Gnome 3.6.
>
> Things went pretty well, I have to say.
>
> I can login to gdm here! ;-)
Try to lis
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2013-02-09 19:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> AFAI understand these 2 lines should be enough to let systemd generate
>> its relevant unit-files etc.
>>
>> Right?
>
> Additional thoughts:
>
> Is pam_mount obsolete with systemd?
Am 2013-02-10 00:26, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger
> wrote:
>>
>> Next episode:
>>
>> I also migrated my gentoo thinkpad to systemd today.
>
> Cool.
;-) ... next try, I had systemd on both of my work-systems already a
year ago or so ...
Am 2013-02-10 11:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Into fstab, right? I will try to play with automount-options as well.
"nofail" gives me a straight bootup as the system does not (try to)
enable swap. The cryptsetup-unit gets set up correctly:
# cryptsetup status swap
/dev/mapper/swap is acti
Am 2013-02-10 11:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> I can live with that so far ... but it would be interesting to get that
> right, just to learn things.
>
> Maybe I should try the other approach and create a unit-file for the
> encrypted swap by myself.
Next steps done ... no real success so
Am 2013-02-10 15:41, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Am 2013-02-10 11:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> I can live with that so far ... but it would be interesting to get that
>> right, just to learn things.
next learnings (I maybe should write some wiki-entry somewhere to
collect all that f
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2013-02-10 15:41, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> Am 2013-02-10 11:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>
>>> I can live with that so far ... but it would be interesting to get that
>>> right, just to learn things.
>
> next learnings
Am 10.02.2013 20:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Yep, had the same problem, solved with:
>
> LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no
>
> in /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Since then it has happened again maybe a
> couple of times (I have no idea why), but most of the time (and I'm
> talking above 99%), it wor
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.02.2013 20:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> Yep, had the same problem, solved with:
>>
>> LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no
>>
>> in /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Since then it has happened again maybe a
>> couple of times (I have no
Am 11.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Do you have acpid installed/enabled? Anything aside the default
>> acpi-scripts?
>
> The last time I installed acpid was in November of 2010, and I
> uninstalled for the last time i
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 11.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>> Do you have acpid installed/enabled? Anything aside the default
>>> acpi-scripts?
>>
>> The last time I installed ac
Am 11.02.2013 22:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> I see upower.service as active but disabled ... ? hmm..
>
> It's OK; disabled means that it's not enabled, i.e., there is no link
> to it from /etc/systemd/system/*.wants. It's Dbus
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
GNOME 3.6 is not masked in Gentoo, just keyworded.
Apologies for the slight thread hijack, but I've been curious if anyone
knows the current state of Gnome 3 in Gentoo? I'm currently on Gnome 2,
and I'm one of those weirdos who kind of likes Gnome
Am 2013-02-10 15:41, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> conflicting device node
> '/dev/mapper/swap' found
googled that and found this similar issue:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32403
The command there returns on my thinkpad:
# journalctl -b --no-pager _SYSTEMD_UNIT=systemd-udevd.service
-- L
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2013-02-10 15:41, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> conflicting device node
>> '/dev/mapper/swap' found
>
> googled that and found this similar issue:
>
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32403
>
> The command there returns on my thi
Am 2013-02-13 21:01, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> LVM2 will be pulled again by udisks2; it's a mandatory dependency. I
> don't think the problem is related to LVM, but I don't really know.
I already found out, yes. Maybe it's just some systemd race condition.
It's not that important to me right
Am 11.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Do you have acpid installed/enabled? Anything aside the default
>> acpi-scripts?
>
> The last time I installed acpid was in November of 2010, and I
> uninstalled for the last time i
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 11.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>> Do you have acpid installed/enabled? Anything aside the default
>>> acpi-scripts?
>>
>> The last time I installed ac
Am 13.02.2013 22:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> # grep ACPI config-3.7.6
> # Power management and ACPI options
> CONFIG_ACPI=y
> CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
[..]
> This is my laptop, my desktop is obviously a little different.
I'll compare with my thinkpad asap, just to get an impression ...
> I
Am 13.02.2013 21:05, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Am 2013-02-13 21:01, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> LVM2 will be pulled again by udisks2; it's a mandatory dependency. I
>> don't think the problem is related to LVM, but I don't really know.
>
> I already found out, yes. Maybe it's just som
Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...):
>
> I get warnings like "superblock date is in the future --- REPAIRED" for
> filesystems at boot-time.
>
> Canek, (how) do you handle time and hwclock with systemd?
>
> I *had*
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...):
>>
>> I get warnings like "superblock date is in the future --- REPAIRED" for
>> filesystems at boot-time.
>>
>> Can
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>> Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...):
>>>
>>> I get warnings like "superblock date is in
Am 05.03.2013 07:36, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> I don't. AFAIK, systemd provides systemd-timedated(8) since systemd
> 30:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/timedated
Yes, found that as well yesterday.
> In normal desktops/laptops/servers, it just works.
>
>>> I *had* a h
Am 05.03.2013 07:40, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Sorry, long trip, just got home. I messed up NTP with hwclock. Anyway,
> I don't handle hwclock either: it's basically included in systemd:
>
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/shared/hwclock.c
wow, and I thought there has t
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 06:02:20PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> Would someone mind and take a look?
> Fatal IO error 11 (Die Ressource ist zur Zeit nicht verfügbar) on X
> server :0.
> Jan 30 17:47:09 hiro gdm-simple-slave[5097]: GLib-GObject-CRITICAL:
> g_object_unref: assertion `object
Am 30.01.2013 18:36, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen:
> I've just installed systemd on one of my systems to give it a test and I
> had similar problems due to the systemd useflag on policykit being
> hardmasked (it also pulled in consolekit because of that).
> Since the errors are very similar you
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 18:36, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen:
>
>> I've just installed systemd on one of my systems to give it a test and I
>> had similar problems due to the systemd useflag on policykit being
>> hardmasked (it also pulled in
Am 30.01.2013 18:52, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Am 30.01.2013 18:36, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen:
>>
>>> I've just installed systemd on one of my systems to give it a test and I
>>> had similar problems due to the systemd usef
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 18:52, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger
>> wrote:
>>> Am 30.01.2013 18:36, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen:
>>>
I've just installed systemd on one of my systems
Am 30.01.2013 19:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> OK, did you run "emerge --depclean"? All of those packages use
> consolekit or systemd, but not both; if after --depclean'ing
> consolekit keeps lurking, could you uninstall it and mask it, followed
> by a "emerge -uDNvp world"? That would tell u
Am 30.01.2013 19:13, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> --depclean done now, I revdep-rebuild now and will then check back with
> gdm.service.
>
> just a minute ...
Still no luck.
consolekit is gone now
# equery d consolekit
* These packages depend on consolekit:
gnome-base/gdm-3.6.2 (cons
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 19:13, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> --depclean done now, I revdep-rebuild now and will then check back with
>> gdm.service.
>>
>> just a minute ...
>
> Still no luck.
>
> consolekit is gone now
>
> # equery d
Am 30.01.2013 19:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Everything looks fine. However, you did rebuild pambase, did you
> rebooted your computer?
Yes, I think so, but I am not sure right now.
Will do now.
Also, do you have the following line in
> /etc/pam.d/system-login?
>
> -session optiona
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 19:47, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> Everything looks fine. However, you did rebuild pambase, did you
>> rebooted your computer?
>
> Yes, I think so, but I am not sure right now.
> Will do now.
>
> Also, do you have
Am 30.01.2013 19:58, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Let's see what the logs have to say.
Failed again.
Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_problems.txt
I added the line "sgw FAILED ..." in there to mark the failed effort to
Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_problems.txt
I am away from this system for now ... more tomorrow, thanks so far.
Stefan
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
>>
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_problems.txt
>
> I am away from this system for now ... more tomorr
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>
>>> Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_proble
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>> Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>>
Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the li
Am 2013-01-30 21:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
>>
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_problems.txt
>
> I am away from this system for now ... more tomorrow, thank
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 30.01.2013 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>> Put up the failed session of gdm here to keep the list uncluttered:
>>
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24516209/gdm_problems.txt
>
> I am away from this system for now ... more tomorr
Am 31.01.2013 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> I tries in the consoles c11, c12, and then on the c13 and 14.
Yes, I noticed that trying-around as well ...
> I don't
> know why, but it would seem that gdm-password fails to authenticate
> you.
Just changed my password to something simple w
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 31.01.2013 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> I tries in the consoles c11, c12, and then on the c13 and 14.
>
> Yes, I noticed that trying-around as well ...
>
>> I don't
>> know why, but it would seem that gdm-password fails
Am 31.01.2013 19:26, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> And I suppose both sgw and gdm are in the video group (the later is
> done by the ebuild, if I'm not mistaken).
Yes, they are:
# getent group video
video:x:27:root,mythtv,sgw,gdm
> What is the uid and gid of
> gdm?
# getent passwd gdm
gdm:x
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 31.01.2013 19:26, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> And I suppose both sgw and gdm are in the video group (the later is
>> done by the ebuild, if I'm not mistaken).
>
> Yes, they are:
>
> # getent group video
> video:x:27:root,myth
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>>> I switched to systemd not too long ago and I have the same issue as
>>> well, at least it sounds t
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> I switched to systemd not too long ago and I have the same issue as
>> well, at least it sounds the sam
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger
>>> wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>>> I switched to systemd not too lon
Am 2013-01-31 19:54, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> sshd.service, ssh@.service, systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service, and
> systemd-update-utmp-shutdown.service have auditd.service in their
> After= field; several others have plymouth services. After= is just
> for ordering of units, is not a requ
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2013-01-31 19:54, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>
>> sshd.service, ssh@.service, systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service, and
>> systemd-update-utmp-shutdown.service have auditd.service in their
>> After= field; several others have plym
Am 2013-02-01 20:39, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> Having an empty log is also weird; mine says:
>
> Jan 30 01:19:20 centurion polkitd[1614]: Started polkitd version 0.110
> Jan 30 01:19:22 centurion polkitd[1614]: Loading rules from directory
> /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
> Jan 30 01:19:22 centurion
Upgrading to systemd-198 and udev-198 magically enabled me to login via
gdm again.
Nice ...
Stefan
On 13 February 2013, at 10:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> …
> I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I really do not see the
> point of Gnome3 at all. It has no identity of its own …
>
> So what's the point of Gnome3?
>
> If people like the Unity-ish bits, they should run Unity. Same with th
On 13/02/2013 13:36, Stroller wrote:
>
> On 13 February 2013, at 10:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> …
>> I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I really do not see the
>> point of Gnome3 at all. It has no identity of its own …
>>
>> So what's the point of Gnome3?
>>
>> If people like the Unity
> I'd still really like someone who groks what Gnome3 is all about to fill
> in these blanks in my understanding with truthiness ;-)
Apparently the main drive is to have a brand, so a constant and so
simple look is recognised as a Gnome/? machine. A bit pointless if
no-one uses it or changes to so
On 13/02/2013 19:56, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>> I'd still really like someone who groks what Gnome3 is all about to fill
>> in these blanks in my understanding with truthiness ;-)
>
> Apparently the main drive is to have a brand, so a constant and so
> simple look is recognised as a Gnome/? machine.
> Do Gnome devs know how to spell "fork"?
I think not they have an accent and keep saying
'pass me the fork an knife'
Puzzled why they only got a knife they just get their heads down and
start cutting away due to the funny look from the passer.
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