Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-07-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 04:21:45 AM Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: root@fireball / # hdparm -tT /dev/sdb /dev/sdb: Timing cached reads: 6604 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3303.39 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 542 MB in 3.01 seconds = 180.33 MB/sec root@fireball / # Try

Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/freecad-0.13.1830-r1 faild to compile

2014-07-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 2 July 2014 13:05:11 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/07/2014 03:30, List Reader wrote: Hi! I have been trying to install media-gfx/freecad for a while, but I can't understand the build log. emerge -pqv =media-gfx/freecad-0.13.1830-r1 http://bpaste.net/show/426786/

Re: [gentoo-user] About the time sync with Windows and Gentoo

2014-07-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, July 08, 2014 02:45:41 PM taozhijiang wrote: Hi, all I have installed dual OSes on my laptop: Microsoft Windows 7 and Gentoo. But I can not sync the time with the different OSes. By default, Windows shows the right time, but Gentoo failed, how to setup the system to fix the

Re: [gentoo-user] About the time sync with Windows and Gentoo

2014-07-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, July 08, 2014 03:27:45 AM Michael Cook wrote: On 07/08/2014 03:04 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 08, 2014 02:45:41 PM taozhijiang wrote: Hi, all I have installed dual OSes on my laptop: Microsoft Windows 7 and Gentoo. But I can not sync the time with the different

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

2014-07-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 July 2014 18:49:19 CEST, João Jerónimo joao.jeronimo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

2014-07-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, July 09, 2014 08:03:55 AM microcai wrote: 2014-07-09 0:49 GMT+08:00 João Jerónimo joao.jeronimo...@gmail.com: Hello. I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install glibc is

Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies

2014-07-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 9 July 2014 07:18:27 CEST, Dan O. d...@redchops.com wrote: I don't believe you pasted everything you meant to. That paste doesn't show what packages would need to be emerged. Please do not top post. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies

2014-07-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 10 July 2014 13:41:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/07/2014 12:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something

Re: [gentoo-user] File timestamps got confused...why?

2014-07-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, July 14, 2014 04:42:40 PM Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On Mon, 14 July 2014, at 6:54 pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I am running Gentoo Linux, which I update on a ~daily basis. ... solfire:/home/userfstat smartlog.txt What package provides `fstat`, please? I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Can emerge play a sound on either a successful/unsuccessful build?

2014-07-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, July 14, 2014 12:46:48 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: I actually have it send an alert to my phone with Posterous but you can do whatever you want. Which Posterous is this? When I google it, I only get information that it actually got shut down after being bought by Twitter. I am looking

Re: [gentoo-user] mysql to postgresql migration

2014-07-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 15 July 2014 14:55:14 CEST, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I recently ran across this script: py-mysql2pgsql [1] and this discussion on it's origin [2]. I'm keenly interested in the recommendations of others for migrating mysql databases to postgresql and any comments on this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql to postgresql migration

2014-07-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 15 July 2014 19:40:14 CEST, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: J. Roeleveld joost at antarean.org writes: I recently ran across this script: py-mysql2pgsql [1] and this discussion on it's origin [2]. I'm keenly interested in the recommendations of others for migrating mysql databases

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 July 2014 11:19:20 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Dale wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 07/16/2014 09:32:31 AM, Dale wrote: I tried this. I unpacked the stage3 tarball just like I would for a new install, in /mnt/gentoo of course. I set it up just enough to where I could try

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasma pager layout indicator

2014-07-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 July 2014 20:26:19 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 16.07.2014 09:07, schrieb Dale: I have noticed something else odd as well. I use folder layout, like KDE3 had, for my KDE desktop setup. When I login to KDE, I have to switch to some other layout

Re: [gentoo-user] Can emerge play a sound on either a successful/unsuccessful build?

2014-07-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 July 2014 18:46:16 CEST, galiza.ce...@gmail.com wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes: On Monday, July 14, 2014 12:46:48 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: I actually have it send an alert to my phone with Posterous but you can do whatever you want. Which Posterous is this? When

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 July 2014 19:26:39 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Dark Templar wrote: When I reinstalled gcc and glibc, migrating from non-multilib amd64 arch to multilib one, I just unpacked gentoo stage3 into temporary directory, chrooted there, made binary packages out of installed ones

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 06:52:20 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: On 16 July 2014 19:26:39 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Dark Templar wrote: When I reinstalled gcc and glibc, migrating from non-multilib amd64 arch to multilib one, I just unpacked gentoo stage3 into temporary

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 04:03:34 AM Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Update: Using a 32bit VM with current x86 stage3 file, glibc builds succesfully. (On first run) Will do a second emerge -ve @system when this one is finished. I used the following stage file

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:19:36 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, July 17, 2014 04:03:34 AM Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Update: Using a 32bit VM with current x86 stage3 file, glibc builds succesfully. (On first run) Will do a second emerge -ve @system

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 July 2014 11:18:27 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Update: No issues with glibc. I am not doing any parallel builds (eg. default of -j 1 is used) Let me know if you want any files for comparison. -- Joost I tried the same tarball you are using

Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash

2014-07-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage

Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash

2014-07-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 07:31:35 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have

[gentoo-user] Help needed with ebuilds for pear.horde.org

2014-07-24 Thread J. Roeleveld
Hi All, I am trying to create an ebuild for Egroupware 14.1. (released this month) To find out the dependencies, I am going through the setup check and am stuck with the following: ** Checking PEAR pear.horde.org/Horde_Imap_Client (2.16.0) is installed: False PEAR::Horde_Imap_Client is needed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-26 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 26 July 2014 20:27:14 CEST, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Jul 2014 19:23:20 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 26.07.2014 19:58, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 26/07/14 20:39, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [...] and this, my children, is why I am using ECC ram. I

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 27 July 2014 18:25:24 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.07.2014 04:47, schrieb walt: So, why did the broken machine work normally for more than a year without rpcbind until two days ago? (I suppose because nfs-utils was updated to 1.3.0 ?) The real problem here is

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, July 27, 2014 08:44:02 PM Kerin Millar wrote: On 27/07/2014 17:55, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 27 July 2014 18:25:24 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.07.2014 04:47, schrieb walt: So, why did the broken machine work normally for more than a year without rpcbind

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 30 July 2014 23:47:19 CEST, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Having updated some perl packages, I ran perl-cleaner which failed with some blockers, I ran: emerge --deselect --ask $(qlist -IC 'perl-core/*') emerge -uD1a $(qlist -IC 'virtual/perl-*') as advised by perl-cleaner, before I

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 06:48:01 AM Mick wrote: On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package and/or version that I am actually using. If yes, I add it to the world file. (Emerge --noreplace) I don't add

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 08:34:09 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 31/07/2014 03:55, Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote Am 30.07.2014 21:48, schrieb Dale: While to me KDE is bloated, I just try to disable what I can and carry on. If my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
Clicked send too soon... On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:32:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, July 31, 2014 08:34:09 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 31/07/2014 03:55, Walter Dnes wrote: snipped Seems that if I want to emerge and use KDE's pdf reader, I need... phonon vlc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 15:37:51 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/07/2014 12:45, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: So on that box you wouldn't choose a KDE program. Simple. Yes, it was simple. Everything on gentoo is just s simple ;) I think this is the first discussion about

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 15:58:17 CEST, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: In my today's system update I have got the following error message: * ERROR: x11-misc/colord-1.2.1-r1::gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right now emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser should at least allow you to continue building colord. Please do not top post. A long term solution

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:33:38 CEST, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:16:06 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Just wait till Neil, me and a few others swing the topic over to WW II fighter aircraft. The flames will start then. Speaking of which... One of my wishlist items

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 17:19:20 CEST, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:18:35 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 31 July 2014 15:58:17 CEST, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/07

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right now emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser should at least allow you to

Re: [gentoo-user] Ideapad-laptop

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 19:40:07 CEST, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 16:32 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: On 30-Jul-2014 4:30 pm, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 30 Jul 2014 11:53:25 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: So I got a new Lenovo G50. I

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00:11 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right now emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 08:05:27 AM Tanstaafl wrote: On 8/1/2014 7:53 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Snipping emails using a mobile phone on a bumpy road doesn't work... So, you're replying to emails while driving? Yes bites tongue hard bashes knuckles harder Are you

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 21:32:54 CEST, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 14:07:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in each

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in each

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 14:44:06 CEST, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. This is on a bus... Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't consider that possibility... ;) I have 2 options

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:14:08 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 10:07, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:19:49 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 13:53, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00:11 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:22:44 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 14:44, Tanstaafl wrote: On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. This is on a bus... Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:32:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it on Gentoo before putting it in production :-) New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 20:17:05 CEST, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to all ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:02:11 CEST, Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But cron has only one event trigger: wall-clock time. And it's a very blunt weapon. I'm looking for recommendations of alternative schedulers that satisfy real-world business needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: se declaró ‘struct address_space’ dentro de la lista de parámetros [activado por defecto]

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:44:11 CEST, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:39 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:46:00 CEST, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry; I almost missed this. Actually systemd-nspawn does much more than chroot'ing and bind-mounting some dirs; it also runs the container in its own namespace. And it can add virtual networking a lot more stuff. See [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 2 August 2014 02:17:28 CEST, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-01 21:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On 1 August 2014 23:12:23

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:33:30 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/08/2014 23:13, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 1 August 2014 19:32:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it on Gentoo before putting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:18:32 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/08/2014 21:35, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2014 20:17, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 12:26:59 PM Philip Webb wrote: 140731 Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are reasonable flags. One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 07:50:57 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Depends on the specific requirements. If you want: In a sense, most you require can be done with my mentioned schedule tool, although perhaps the usage is not in the way you expected. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 04:17:23 AM Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 09:07:52AM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote On Sunday 03 August 2014 00:38:34 Philip Webb wrote: 140802 Walter Dnes wrote: In Gentoo, *ANY* kde app which runs on the kde infrastructure requires phonon,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 02:16:37 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/08/2014 09:23, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday 02 August 2014 16:53:26 James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: snipped Unless you are dealing with Big Data projects, like Google, Facebook, Amazon,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:10:49 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: A useful addition to your schedule-tool would be to store the scripts in a way that makes editing simpler Since it is an arbitrary script in an arbitrary language, I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 10:04:50 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/08/2014 15:36, J. Roeleveld wrote: Maybe this protocol is not the most clever solution, but it is one which could be implemented without lots of overhead: Mainly, I was up to a quick solution which is working good enough

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 10:57:06 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/08/2014 22:23, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Sunday, August 03, 2014 10:04:50 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/08/2014 15:36, J. Roeleveld wrote: Maybe this protocol is not the most clever solution, but it is one which could

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 4 August 2014 10:41:04 CEST, Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: With the kind of schedules I am working with (and I believe Alan will also end up with), restarting the whole process from the start can lead to issues. Finding out how far the process

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 04, 2014 10:11:41 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: These schedules then also can't be restarted from the beginning when they stop halfway through without risking massive consistency problems in the final data. So you have a command which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 4 August 2014 15:35:41 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/08/2014 15:31, Martin Vaeth wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: So you have a command which might break due to hardware error and cannot be rerun. I cannot see how any general-purpose scheduler might

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 4 August 2014 15:31:40 CEST, Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: So you have a command which might break due to hardware error and cannot be rerun. I cannot see how any general-purpose scheduler might help you here: You either need to be able to split

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 06:33:59 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: No, it wouldn't, since jobs just finishing and wanting to report their status cannot do this when there is no server. You would need a rather involved protocol to deal with such situations

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 04, 2014 10:38:57 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/08/2014 21:46, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 4 August 2014 15:35:41 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Either make the ETL tool pick up where it stopped and continue as it is the only that knows what it was doing and how

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 5 August 2014 21:57:56 CEST, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Joost Roeleveld joost at antarean.org writes: Mesos looks promising for a variety of (Apache) reasons. Some key technologies folks may want google about that are related: Quincy (fair schedular) Chronos (scheduler)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 06, 2014 09:29:53 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 05 August 2014 22:43:42 J. Roeleveld wrote: I still remember running seti@home and similar programs in the past. Those were large clusters, but with a very badly designed network. Was that in the days before BOINC

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 06, 2014 04:50:22 PM James wrote: snipped Hopefully, we can all share ideas and brainstorm about how Gentoo users can lead the pack of linux distros into this brave_new world. [Overlays?] A good place to start would also be:

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 07, 2014 11:33:34 PM gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I was away for two weeks and now one of my systems cannot be updated due to conflicts. The entire (long) emerge output is at the end of this msg. -- The first conflict is --- snipped long

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:36:35 PM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Which operating systems does you Hadoop systems run on top of? We use RedHat, although we make a fair amount of custom RPMs. It's just too much having to deal with Gentoo while maintaining high performance filesystems and

Re: [gentoo-user] re: trouble with USB mouse on laptop

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 08, 2014 10:30:55 AM Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Howdy, I've been having trouble with USB mice on my laptop, with the mouse pointer and the scroll wheel not responding all the time. It's not until I click either button that the mouse starts responding again. The output

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 August 2014 18:21:08 CEST, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Aug 08 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:23 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: I notice a few perl blockers. You could try the following: # emerge -vuD1 $(qlist -IC 'virtual/perl-*') # perl-cleaner

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 August 2014 19:30:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 08 August 2014 18:50:28 J. Roeleveld wrote: I always run perlcleaner and python updater after each update. Hmm. I run them when perl or python has been updated. Have you found them to be needed at other times

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 August 2014 20:13:15 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/08/2014 19:46, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 8 August 2014 19:30:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 08 August 2014 18:50:28 J. Roeleveld wrote: I always run perlcleaner and python updater

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 08, 2014 10:41:51 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/08/2014 21:18, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 8 August 2014 20:13:15 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/08/2014 19:46, J. Roeleveld wrote: Hehe, would be nice if a developer would actually list the best way

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 9 August 2014 09:53:01 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/08/2014 08:35, J. Roeleveld wrote: Test vms get updated when I feel like it. Some of them never :-) Hope they are behind a firewall then, wouldn't want to know how quick a 2 year old VM gets 0wned if online

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 09, 2014 09:00:48 PM Mick wrote: First some general observations that relate to kmail2: I thought of giving the latest kmail-4.12.5 a spin. So installed it on a machine and set up a couple of IMAP4 servers to get messages from. An account with a messages in the low

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:45:07 PM Mick wrote: On Monday 11 Aug 2014 20:01:16 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: isn't it great? back in the days when kmail stored emails in files, everything worked great and even folders with 100k mails were not a problem. But, no, they had to break

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:19:39 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 09/08/2014 10:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 9 August 2014 09:53:01 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/08/2014 08:35, J. Roeleveld wrote: Test vms get updated when I feel like it. Some of them never

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 08:37:52 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/08/2014 07:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: Plus, I refuse under any circumstances to run Gentoo on production unless it's backed by a huge build farm or I have a large cluster that are all identical and have very special needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge of sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 fails....

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 10, 2014 02:33:40 AM Christopher Kurtis Koeber wrote: Hello, I am attempting to emerge xorg-server and sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 is pulled in as a dependency. So, when I emerge llvm it fails. Here is some relevant output: emerge --info =sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3::gentoo:

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2014 11:10, Mick wrote: I recall the devs explicitly stating early enough in the KDE4 development that sqlite is not man enough for the job and advising everyone to move over to mysql. Someone was

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/08/2014 15:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2014 11:10, Mick wrote: I recall the devs explicitly stating early enough in the KDE4

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 12 August 2014 20:21:03 CEST, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 12.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/08/2014 15:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 12 August 2014 14:06:07 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin

Re: [gentoo-user] akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 09:20:59 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/08/2014 21:00, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 12 August 2014 20:21:03 CEST, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 12.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 03:38:15 PM Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need kernel support for ppp?

2014-08-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 08:42:57 AM gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: (I use gnome, hence systemd. I have no modem, except the cable modem.) network-manager requires ppp and the latest version of ppp (just installed by today's update world) wants me to add ppp support to my kernel. I can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 3.14.14 build failure at DEPMOD stage

2014-08-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 08:36:09 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:29:13 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: depmod -a 3.x.y [thimk][root][/usr/src/linux] depmod -a 3.14.14 depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented Now what? Anyhow, I tried lilo -R Experimental and

Re: [gentoo-user] Advantages in privoxy instead of mannualy edit /etc/hosts

2014-08-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 August 2014 03:08:48 CEST, Henrique Lengler henriquel...@openmailbox.org wrote: Is there any advantage in use privoxy instead of mannualy set a /etc/hosts file? Wich one is faster? Does both method slow down page load, or speed it up? How many entries do you want to put in your /etc/hosts

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 17, 2014 08:46:58 PM thegeezer wrote: there are many way to do clustering and one thing that i would consider a holy grail would be something like pvm [1] because nothing else seems to have similar horizontal scaling of cpu at the kernel level PVM, from the webpage, looks

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 August 2014 20:06:51 CEST, Timur Aydin t...@taydin.org wrote: Hi, I am using a closed source software package on my 64 bit gentoo linux system. The software package is beyond compare by scooter soft. Because of the way this package is built, it needs a specially patched version of glibc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 18, 2014 03:12:15 PM Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can easily keep everything updated

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 18, 2014 08:09:00 PM thegeezer wrote: On 18/08/14 15:31, J. Roeleveld wrote: snip valid points, and interesting to see the corrections of my understanding, always welcome :) You're welcome :) Looks nice, but is not going to help with performance if the application

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:53:51 AM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 10:50:23 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote: Hadoop is a very specialized tool. It does what it does very well, but if you want to use it for something other than map/reduce then consider carefully whether it is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 06:33:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:34 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:53:51 AM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 10:50:23 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote: Hadoop is a very specialized tool

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: pthreads condition variable/mutex question

2014-08-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 08:19:19 PM Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-08-13, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: I may have to stick with sockets when I want to block until some event happens. To be clear, do you want to block or sleep/yield until an event happens? I

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