[geo] Re: Terms

2008-09-02 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Gregory, Ocean iron fertilization may fall under both "albedo geoengineering" and "geoengineering for carbon sequestration". It is proven to enhance albedo and may sequester additional carbon. Oliver Wingenter On Sep 2, 11:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All: >

[geo] Re: Terms

2008-09-02 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Tom, Please qualify your comments. I have three publications to qualify mine. Oliver Wingenter On Sep 2, 9:17 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The issue must surely be the primary goal. Whether ocean > fertilization affects albedo significantly is debatable, but > it is not th

[geo] Re: Geoengineering to survive [draft]

2008-09-06 Thread Oliver Wingenter
. I am not sure what amount might be injected. I would ask someone with a stratospheric photochemical model to look into this before we carried away and waste time and focus. Perhaps Ross Salawitch or the Harvard group (Daniel and Jennifer) could provide more insight. Oliver Wingenter On Sep

[geo] Re: Geoengineering to survive [draft]

2008-09-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
lead to another greenhouse layer in the stratosphere just as some IR might get out. Perhaps in the nano size range the optically properties might be different. Oliver Wingenter On Sep 7, 2:37 am, "John Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tetra ethyl silicate is very simila

[geo] Re: Removing methane from the atmosphere ?

2008-09-20 Thread Oliver Wingenter
ny other possible unwanted consequences at this time. But I don't think we can practically increase NO, unless we do away with catalytic converters. Oliver Wingenter On Sep 20, 3:50 am, Colin Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone is looking

[geo] Re: Removing methane from the atmosphere ?

2008-09-20 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Wingenter Oliver WingenterOn Sep 20, 12:52 pm, dsw_s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about increasing circulation between the stratosphere and > troposphere, so that it takes less time for methane to get up to the > stratosphere where there's more UV and ozone? > >

[geo] OIF news from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-16 Thread Oliver Wingenter
FYi Dear colleagues, As you may know, the recent decision by the Convention on Biological Diversity has resulted in a de facto moratorium on ocean fertilization experiments until the UN International Maritime Organization’s London Convention can make a ruling on whether fert

[geo] Re: Climate restoration and ecosystem recovery - new proposal

2008-11-28 Thread Oliver Wingenter
season and could result in lower ocean productivity. Granted I am not an oceanographer but I am an atmospheric chemist and have written papers on marine boundary layer halogen and photo chemistry. Best Regards, Oliver Wingenter On Nov 28, 1:49 pm, "John Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[geo] Re: Too Much of a Good Thing?

2008-11-28 Thread Oliver Wingenter
increased turbulence will probably raise the planetary boundary layer and could have an impact on precipitation. However, reduce soil temperature could lead to a lower planetary boundary layer. But I am not a dynamics person. Have you read anything about these effects? Best Regards, Oliver

[geo] Re: Royal Society and Exxon

2008-12-02 Thread Oliver Wingenter
EGU. We are presently finishing up the GCM modeling and should have another more detailed paper out in the Spring. Best Regards, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 2, 5:54 am, "John Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just in case people didnt bother to read the piece there is an imp

[geo] Re: Can't Get There from Here

2008-12-03 Thread Oliver Wingenter
o not have access to this journal. It is this types of debates that has lead to many climate scientist waiting much to long until over whelming proof has established before they declared an emergency. Please let us not bring backward the discuss on climate 5 or 10 years. Sincerely, Oliver Wing

[geo] Re: Can't Get There from Here

2008-12-04 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear David, I would like to evaluate the Huntsville data myself. Could you kindly direct me to where I can find this data set. Thanks, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 4, 8:13 am, "David Schnare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oliver, the Huntsville data, which is not contamina

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Must be Appear in Declarations for Poznan >> encl. Statement by His Excellency President Morales for the Poznan Conference

2008-12-04 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear John, Scott Elliot and I are have an initial idea we are working on that could have a desired impact on the Arctic. If the idea is viable we will submit a paper soon. Oliver Wingenter On Dec 4, 8:17 am, "John Nissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There seems to be n

[geo] Re: A Sulfurous Denunciation

2008-12-04 Thread Oliver Wingenter
rs. Thank you, Oliver Wingenter PS Dear Alvia, thank you for furnishing Alan's slides. On Dec 4, 5:19 pm, "Alvia Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the AMS website, here is Alan Robock's somewhat acerbic presentation to > the 40 people in suits from thi

[geo] Re: Can't Get There from Here

2008-12-06 Thread Oliver Wingenter
. I think we need to continue to move away from the fringes of science, as this is killing precious time on real issue like solving our climate problem. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 6, 9:24 am, "David Schnare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike: > > I'm

[geo] Re: Can't Get There from Here

2008-12-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
is rising or not, although of interest to many, belongs in another forum. I cannot afford to spend any more time discussing issues outside of geoengineering with you in this Google group. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 6, 2:33 pm, "David Schnare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

[geo] Re: Can't Get There from Here

2008-12-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
vironmental Sciences        Phone: +1-732-932-9800 x6222 > Rutgers University                                  Fax: +1-732-932-8644 > 14 College Farm Road                   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA      http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock > > On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Oliver Wingenter wro

[geo] Re: delivering aerosols

2008-12-08 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, Paul Crutzen suggested artillery. But this won't work. Never trust the Germans with artillery. (Before I get any hate mail, Prof. Crutzen is not German. He is Dutch. I am the only one in my family not born in Germany, so I guess that makes me German.) Oliver Wingenter On

Re: Fw: [geo] Re: delivering aerosols

2008-12-09 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Alvia, If H2S applied to the stratosphere, would the additional hydrogen impact i) HOx chemistry and therefore ozone loss and ii) increased water vapor which is a greenhouse gas and could lower the threshold for PSC formation? Oliver On Dec 9, 10:32 am, "Alvia Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[geo] Re: delivering aerosols

2008-12-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
l > someone can come up with some money! > > John Gorman > > - Original Message - > From: "Andrew Lockley" > To: > > Cc: "geoengineering" > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:16 AM > Subject: [geo] Re: delivering aerosols > > Seem

[geo] Re: delivering aerosols

2008-12-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
diffuse lighting effect is quantified. If anyone knows, please let me know. But this is definitely an issue. Stratospheric sun shading will interfere with solar home design which is trying to limit fossil fuel use. The question is how much? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 11, 1:32 pm, "

[geo] Re: Cap and Trade Haters Recommend Incentivizing Geo

2008-12-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, What costs are you including? Oliver Wingenter On Dec 12, 2:53 pm, "Andrew Lockley" wrote: > John, > > As usual, you have come up with very good arguments, with very bad > supporting evidence! > > You need to put $ values on the benefits, and weight t

[geo] Re: Messing with the Oceans

2008-12-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Alvia, Once again the most important manifestation of iron fertilization is missed. The biggest impact of Fe fertilization is in the huge altering of albedo brought on by the bio-leveraging of DMS production. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 9, 6:20 am, "Alvia Gaskill" wro

[geo] Re: Ocean Fertilization, an Incomplete Answer with Uncertain Long Term Implications Say Aussies

2008-12-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
se to ignore this and go ahead. At most we can fertilize a few percent of the SO with Fe. Start out small as I suggested. Please read my papers. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Dec 15, 1:32 pm, "Alvia Gaskill" wrote: > Regarding the "absorption limit" for OIF, what should be t

[geo] Massive iron fertilization will just never-work-terrorism might

2008-12-16 Thread Oliver Wingenter
ng of 1% or less of the Southern Ocean could stabilize the Antarctic ice sheets. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group

[geo] Re: Geoeng Professional Body

2009-01-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
I am willing to serve on a geoengineering board. Oliver Wingenter On Jan 6, 10:41 pm, xbenf...@aol.com wrote: > To quote Gene: > > I have a company to run and cannot take the time. > > True for me, too, but I'll help as I can. > > Gregory Benford > > -Origin

[geo] CO2 in part per thousand

2009-01-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
have a grasp on what 0.385 is. Oliver Wingenter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

[geo] Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
The board should have at its disposal sufficient expertise and resources to do independent modeling studies to verify claims of the applicant and to bring out possible unforeseen consequences. The panel’s mission should not be just to tear down projects but to aim to improve them. Sincerely, O

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
seat a permanent committee. I am not proposing to take the lead. Some of Ken's stature is required. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jan 12, 4:32 pm, "Andrew Lockley" wrote: > (I endorse John's comments.) > > We won't all agree, but we do need to move forward to

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, The question of what temperature to "dial" in the Earth could also an important topic this proposed group could discuss and possibly decide on. Oliver Wingenter On Jan 12, 6:24 pm, "Andrew Lockley" wrote: > No Oliver, I do think what's needed is an

[geo] Re: Sea absorbing less CO2

2009-01-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
sh I knew how to attach documents for this group. Help would be appreciated. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jan 13, 5:26 pm, dsw_s wrote: > I suspect that natural mixing processes exceed anything we can do > mechanically, by a couple orders of magnitude.  But that's just a > guess.

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, I think it is the increase of salinity of the Gulf Stream and cooling as the waters proceed north that drives the Thermohaline circulation or ocean conveyor belt. For this we need not to much fresh water. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jan 13, 8:10 pm, "Andrew Lockley&qu

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Tom, I did not catch the name of the committee responsible for the "dial" and who is on it. Oliver Wingenter On Jan 13, 7:01 pm, wig...@ucar.edu wrote: > Dear all, > > This is a non issue as it is already covered by Article 2 of the > UNFCCC. The global-mean temperat

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Mike, Yes, I agree we have barely scratched the surface for the number of strat/particle scenarios we need to test. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jan 13, 7:38 pm, Mike MacCracken wrote: > Dear Andrew and Tom-- > > While the preindustrial temperature might be right for p

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-14 Thread Oliver Wingenter
says Dubai. Where do I get the form? Guru, I don't know either. Dubai, there must be a committee somewhere. Guru, I don't know? Who cares says Dubai. Lets just do it anyway. Guru, sure it will work. Help prevent this nightmare. Oliver Wingenter On Jan 11, 12:14 pm, Oliver Wingenter

[geo] Re: Geoengineering Projects Approval Committee

2009-01-14 Thread Oliver Wingenter
to bore little hole into the ice until it all disintegrates. Please help prevent this nightmare. Oliver Wingenter On Jan 11, 12:14 pm, Oliver Wingenter wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I think the time is rapidly approaching that a Geoengineering Projects > Evaluation Panel (or somet

[geo] Re: Boston Globe-- SETI perspective of Earth - I'd like to hear more views on this

2009-01-17 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, This is an interesting bomb field to step into. I am not taking sides, just offering my observations of this thread. It seems to me the problem is over time scale. Some are frustrated over the political inaction over CO2 and feel geoengineering is needed now to save a major tipping

[geo] Re: Crop residue ocean permanent sequestration

2009-01-23 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, Seriously let's not get all gue gue ga ga over this until we see the total energy involved for the process and consider all the nutrients that are lost. For how many years is the ditch effort do able until it is no longer sustainable? Oliver Wiongenter On Jan 23, 10:20 pm, Stuart S

[geo] Re: removal of methane from the atmosphere

2009-01-27 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, Methane is consumed by methanotrophic microbes. Bill Reeburg at UC Irvine has done alot of work studying this. http://www.aslo.org/lo/toc/vol_22/issue_1/0001.pdf Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jan 27, 4:27 am, Andrew Lockley wrote: > Getting the methane level under cont

[geo] Wingener replonse to omissions Lenton/Vaughan omissions

2009-01-30 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Colleagues, Lenton and Vaugn ignored or response to Vogt et al The letter below appears as a discusion comment associated with the Lenton/Vaughan paper. OWW Dear Prof. Lenton: Thank you for considering our possible geoengineering solution in your paper. I would like to clear up some mis

[geo] Re: runaway climate change

2009-02-02 Thread Oliver Wingenter
positive feedbacks, temperature will increase until we reach a new steady state. I don't know what that would be. Some have said that we could end up as the next Venus. Sincerley, Oliver Wingenter On Feb 2, 4:59 am, Govindasamy bala wrote: > Runaway feedback means running its course co

[geo] Re: runaway climate change

2009-02-03 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, We need to read the explanation of Runaway Greenhouse Efffect in Wayne 1st ed pg. 49. I will dictate into an email soon. Sincerley, Oliver Wingenter On Feb 2, 4:50 pm, Andrew Lockley wrote: > I have an alternative theory as to why we don't see too many instances >

[geo] Lifting sulfur is easy..

2009-03-24 Thread Oliver Wingenter
putting it were you want it could be the hard part. This gives planes the advantage. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this g

[geo] Re: H2 disposal

2009-03-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, First the H from the H2S and the H from the H2 will go into the HOx cycle and deplete O3 and eventually form H2O. The work of Maggie Tolbert's group on sulfate aerosols and the work of other groups (i.e. Rich Turco’s) on PSC type substrates show that the more water rich the particle

[geo] Re: H2 disposal

2009-03-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Albert, I would like to see where all of those baloons end up? Or does it matter? I think so. Sincerely, Oliver On Mar 26, 12:25 pm, Albert Kallio wrote: > I think what Alvia tried to explain is that a simple mechanisms have the > following benefits: > > 1) less moving parts to break

[geo] Re: Reply to message to Diana Bronson

2009-04-14 Thread Oliver Wingenter
website quickly. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Apr 14, 6:41 pm, Andrew Lockley wrote: > Diana, > As an independent observer to this debate (although a self-confessed geoeng > fan), I am extremely concerned by your reply.  Your organisation's campaign > has (in my opinion) been

[geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season

2009-06-02 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Margaret, Can you inform us about the impact of hurricanes on transport of water vapor and other gases to the upper troposphere/lower stratosphere (UT/ LS)? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Jun 2, 11:38 am, Margaret Leinen wrote: > Alvia, > > You are correct that hurricanes and

[geo] Controversy over March Copenhagen meeting

2009-06-18 Thread Oliver Wingenter
ourse in meeting, publications and elsewhere and we are lose new ideas and the seeds of other ideas. Old ideas get rehashed and lead only to incremental advances of the same things. The link to the report. www.climatecongress.ku.dk/pdf/synthesisreport/. Sincerely, Oliver W

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
sea surface already. If you add to it, you will alter bubble bursting and air-sea transfer. Good luck, Oliver Wingenter On Aug 12, 5:50 pm, Andrew Lockley wrote: > I tested my theory that breakfast cereals could disrupt hurricanes with a > very small experiment. > I got some Kellog&

[geo] Bogus names

2009-09-23 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, I would like see the real names attached to each post associated with this group. I think it fair to know who is contributing to the discussions here. Sincerley, Oliver Wingenter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[geo] Re: The great taboo is broken

2009-10-10 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Andrew, I recall the group had discussions on what the definition of the Runaway greenhouse is (http://www.mail-archive.com/ geoengineering@googlegroups.com/msg01170.html). I gave the standard textbook definition from Wayne. Hansen thinks a Venus like state is possible or likely if all or

[geo] Re: I am Planning A New Geoengineering Foundation

2009-10-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Tom, I am sorry that I am getting into this discussion late. Do you know where I send my proposal to? Or better yet how do I set up a non- profit that will bring me easy money and lots of it? Sincerely, Oliver On Oct 12, 3:02 pm, Tom Wigley wrote: > The emphasis will be on geo-enginee

[geo] ethics-the responsibility of the editors, reviewer or papers opposing climate engineering

2009-11-18 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, When the topic of ethics in climate engineering is brought up it is usually posed as a responsibility only of the climate engineer. I would like to open the discussion to the responsibilities of journal editors, reviewers, and those that publish papers attempting to derail possibly go

[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Oliver Wingenter
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[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Oliver Wingenter
that will happen? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On Nov 25, 6:54 pm, Dan Whaley wrote: > Diana, > > It's good to see movement in the ETC position. > > You and Jim will of course remember that issues of governance are > discussed here regularly, so your final entreaty that t

Re: [geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Dan, You and other still don't get it. Full scale fertilization of the Southern Ocean will lead to extraordinary amounts of DMS which will oxidize to sulfate aerosol and massive and abrupt cooling. It is that simple. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Dan Whaley wrote: > Olive

[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
nanomolar of iron. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Dan Whaley wrote: > Oliver > > Really surprised by your comments, and by your unwillingness to engage in > detail. i asked for the paper that you feel covers these points in detail. > i also, again, would respectfully ask t

[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Dan, I recall a couple of months ago you asked me to send you papers on DMS. I was on travel and never heard from you again. Perhaps you can hire a student to do your literature searches for you. Sincerelay, Oliver Wingenter PS a few DMS papers (the ones we wrote minus 1 which is AE

Re: [geo] AGU Fall Meeting - regional responses to global SRM

2009-11-27 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Hi John, I will be at the AGU. Do you have the time and location for Ricke's presentation? Oliver Wingenter John Nissen wrote: > > Hi all, > > I searched through AGU Fall meeting (14-18 December, San Francisco > [1]) for "geoengineering" and found only this: >

Re: [geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-27 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Dan, The literature is quit rich in regards to DMS and albedo. I suggest you hire a student that has access to the literature and direct them to get the knowledge you need. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter PS. However, I can write that OIF will never worked based on a severe increased in

[geo] keep the money rolling in!!!

2009-11-27 Thread Oliver Wingenter
ons in order to show their investors progress in our scheme. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter PS When in doubt, raise doubt! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googleg

Re: [geo] keep the money rolling in!!!

2009-11-28 Thread Oliver Wingenter
> David Schnare > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Oliver Wingenter > mailto:oliver.wingen...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > I remember back in the 60's and 70's big tobacco (and Fred Singer) > argued that tobacco smoke was not ha

Re: [geo] Overarching Goals with the Geoengineering Subtropical Deserts Proposal

2009-11-29 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Brennan, Sounds like a good frame work. Sorry, I did not catch your last name. Sioncerely, Oliver Wingenter Brennan J. wrote: > I thought I would post an overview of what I was trying to accomplish > with the preliminary proposal on geoengineering subtropical deserts > doc. My

[geo] Salt and ice

2009-11-29 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Neil, I wonder what the impact of salt from salt water would have on the freezing point depression of the Arctic ice? Sincerely, Oliver Neil Farbstein wrote: > Do you think it might be practical to spray water from the periphery > of the antarctic continent back onto it using pipelines a

Re: [geo] When is the "last resort" moment for SRM?

2009-12-03 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear David, Do you now of any modeling studies in which particles are injected at high latitude into the stratosphere at a lower altitude, say below the mid-latitude tropopause? I would like to know how this might work. I guess we would only need to do this after Arctic sunrise. Sincerely,

[geo] H2 in the atmosphere

2009-12-06 Thread Oliver Wingenter
produces about half of the H2 in the atmosphere. A good summary can be found in http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_Ch07.pdf Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Sam Carana wrote: > Andrew, > > Since hydroxyls essentially combine O and H, it may be possible to > increase t

Re: [geo] Re: [clim] Plan for standardized geoengineering experiments

2009-12-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
repeating them. Why not just save us a whole lot of time and call it quites? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Alan Robock wrote: > Dear Ken, > > Thanks for your comments. I agree that multiple experiments like you > outline would be interesting, but the CMIP5 modelers made it clear that

[geo] Resonsibility

2009-12-08 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, Everyone that contributes to this forum wants the best for humankind and we seek this by preserve the present climate or nearly so. We would hope that the global society would want this to. In order to accomplish this everoyne needs to do their part according to their talent and

Re: [geo] Resonsibility

2009-12-08 Thread Oliver Wingenter
OOps this message was sent before I could complete it. Oliver Wingenter wrote: > Dear Group, > > Everyone that contributes to this forum wants the best for humankind and > we seek this by preserve the present climate or nearly so. We would > hope that the global society would wa

[geo] AGU

2009-12-12 Thread Oliver Wingenter
me to meet please let me know. All the Best, Oliver Wingenter cell 505-681-8768 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [geo] paper on Russian geoengineering field test

2009-12-17 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Ken, Thanks for the paper. It shows the Russian's resolve. The American's and other have been studying similar experiments, however we just use using ship tracks and other observations to study the Twomey, Albrecht and other indirect aerosol effects. Sincerely, Oliver Winge

Re: [geo] GEOENGINEERING EXPERIMENTS BY UK AIR FORCE CREATE CLOUDS ABOVE BRITAIN

2010-01-09 Thread Oliver Wingenter
be evaluated. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Andrew Lockley wrote: Is it possible to alter the flightpaths of commercial aircraft to ensure that their contrails make the right kind of cloud to alter the radiative balance favourably? A 2010/1/9 Veli Albert Kallio <mailto:albert_

[geo] How different would tropospheric oxidation be over an ice-free Arctic?

2010-01-09 Thread Oliver Wingenter
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2009GL040541.shtml -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to geoengineering+unsubs

Re: [geo] NERC geoengineering public dialogue - progress update (fwd)

2010-01-26 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Sounds like the UK will go 1, 2 in this race. John Gorman wrote: Thanks for this Ken. Once again someone in California tells me about something in my own back yard that I hadn't heard of. Can any UK academic or university person explain whats going on here. Have we got a race between the Nati

[geo] Re: Friends of the Earth calls for geoengineering research & states that mitigation is not enough to stay safe

2010-03-13 Thread Oliver Wingenter
l land use competition issues with food production and biodiversity are solved. And we oppose the GM modification of plants to enhance the albedo affect due to the unknown risks associated with GM technologies." http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefing_notes/geoengineering.pdf Sincerely, Oliver Winge

[geo] Re: PNAS paper on Domoic Acid and OIF

2010-03-16 Thread Oliver Wingenter
vertical replenishment of the Si in a Si limited region [Coale et al., 2004 and Coale et al., suppl. 2004]. Otherwise we probably would have got even more flagellates, the majority group . The bloom resulted in a 5 fold increase of DMS (Wingenter et al., 2004). Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On

[geo] Re: Let's stop using the phrase "solar radiation management"

2010-03-31 Thread Oliver Wingenter
How about, sun shade for the stratosphere sunscreen-cloud brightening sun block-nuclear winter Oliver Wingenter On Mar 31, 4:36 pm, "Hawkins, Dave" wrote: > And a new song, "Moon over Miasma" > > -Original Message- > From: geoengineering@googlegr

Re: [geo] Iceland volcano images

2010-04-19 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group and Alan, How much ash and dust was ejected? What is iron content? Its form, Fe2O3? If so the SO2 could acidify the dust and make some of the iron bioavailable. Could be an analog of ocean iron fertilization? I think Ken has a paper along these lines. Oliver Wingenter James R

[geo] Re: [clim] What Lies Beneath-the Plan to Find Out

2010-07-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, Does anybody have a methane hydrate phase diagram that includes methane on one of the axis that they can share with us? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter Alvia Gaskill wrote: My attempt to send this to the groups failed yesterday as I was informed today that messages must be less

Re: [geo] Help Appreciated

2010-10-17 Thread Oliver Wingenter
sites? Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On 10/17/2010 12:29 PM, Ken Caldeira wrote: Multiple, independent injections would /decrease /the likelihood of coagulation relative to injecting it all in one place. Of course, there is potential for coordinated injections to decrease coagulation (aggregation

[geo] The problem with stratospheric SRM

2010-10-17 Thread Oliver Wingenter
considered. The actual formation of particles in models of the stratosphere as a result of geoengineering has yet to be established. This is it greatest priority of SSRM at this time. Sincerely, Oliver Wingenter On 10/17/2010 3:41 PM, Ken Caldeira wrote: Yes, you could produce even more new

Re: [geo] Abridged summary of geoengineering@googlegroups.com - 14 Messages in 4 Topics

2012-03-23 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Stephan, Congratulations on your recent prestigious and well deserved award. I agree with you that the term SRM needs to be differentiated with Cloud Brightening. But I hope you recall that cloud brightening can be achieved in multiple ways not just by increased sea salt aerosol. Our m

Re: [geo] Re: Why exclusive focus on Sulphur?

2012-03-23 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Stephan, Congratulations on your recent prestigious and well deserved award. I agree with you that the term SRM needs to be differentiated with Cloud Brightening. But I hope you recall that cloud brightening can be achieved in multiple ways not just by increased sea salt aerosol. Our m

Re: [geo] Re: Pacific iron fertilisation is 'blatant violation' of international regulations

2012-10-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
lt;mailto:geoengineering%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, sen

Re: [geo] A Little Question on Marine Cloud Brightening

2014-05-18 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Nathan, I suggest you do a proper literature search before you come to any conclusions. Oliver Wingenter On 5/18/2014 10:22 AM, Nathan Currier wrote: Hi, Stephen – Thanks much. First, please see: http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n9/full/ngeo1910.html or - http

[geo] Cloud brightening via Iron

2014-06-23 Thread Oliver Wingenter
in the area which lasted a few weeks. This would have a tremendous impact on dimethyl sulfide production and cloud brightening. Oliver Oliver Wingenter Assoc. Professor Department of Chemistry Research Scientist Geophysical Research Center New Mexico Tech -- You received this message

Re: [geo] Re: Dr Evil

2014-09-29 Thread Oliver Wingenter
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Re: [geo] Article in Toronto Star quoting Jim Fleming and me

2014-11-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Hi Stephen, 1. Cloud brightening (and any change in albedo) by sea spray or sulfate particles from DMS will change the heat distribution and temperature of the planet and therefore the winds. Best, Oliver Oliver Wingenter Assoc. Professor Department of Chemistry Research Scientist

Re: [geo] Evidence for deep-ocean frozen methane release VERY bad news?

2015-10-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Oliver, the problem is if too much methane is released at once the bacteria will run out of nutrients. Nutrients could be pumped in using ocean pipes being fed by barges. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Oliver Tickell Date:10/15/2015 12:04 P

Re: [geo] Evidence for deep-ocean frozen methane release VERY bad news?

2015-10-16 Thread Oliver Wingenter
position of samples from bubble plumes emitted by sediments along the Washington coast at about 500 meters deep. Results will confirm whether the gas originates from methane hydrates rather than from some other source, such as the passive migration of methane from deeper reservoirs to the

Re: [geo] Stratospheric sulfate geoengineering could enhance the terrestrial photosynthesis rate

2016-02-11 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Increased diffuse radiation will lead to higher summer cooling loads and decreased winter warming for passive solar buildings. Please do not confuse passive solar with active solar. Oliver Wingenter On 2/11/2016 1:35 PM, Lili Xia wrote: Hi, Peter, I think there are couples things which

Re: [geo] ocean fertilization

2017-11-14 Thread Oliver Wingenter
. Regards, Oliver Wingenter On 11/14/2017 11:32 AM, David Sevier wrote: Does anyone have any ideas of the area of ocean that would be required to absorb 1 gigaton of CO2 if properly fertilized? It would be interesting to understand the potential sized area required for this and the possible volume

Re: 9% for 36 gton/yr RE: [geo] Re: ocean fertilization

2017-11-17 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Mark, Why would you consider fertilizing water that is not HNLC? Oliver On Nov 17, 2017 4:08 PM, wrote: > Chris, > > Please pass to David. > > See 2012 paper in *Process Safety and Environmental Protection* "Negative > carbon via Ocean Afforestation >

Re: [geo] Exploring accumulation-mode-H2SO4 versus SO2 stratospheric sulfate geoengineering in a sectional aerosol-chemistry-climate model

2018-11-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
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Re: [geo] Exploring accumulation-mode-H2SO4 versus SO2 stratospheric sulfate geoengineering in a sectional aerosol-chemistry-climate model

2018-11-15 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Much ultimately ends up as strat H2O. I vaguely remember more tropospheric folding, too, which also transports water up. Can't remember the reference, tho Andrew Lockley On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 21:02 Oliver Wingenter <mailto:oliver.wingen...@nmt.edu> wrote: Water in the high lat s

Re: [geo] Re: SRM optical impacts

2019-04-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
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Re: [geo] Re: SRM optical impacts

2019-04-07 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Andrew, I remember some papers after Mt. Pinatubo blew discussing the impact on loss of stratospheric ozone on UV, the oxidant OH, and methane were published. Try googling something like "oh ozone uv mt. pinatubo" On 4/7/2019 5:49 PM, Douglas MacMartin wrote: The main reason to put in the m

Re: [geo] The new left-right divide on climate

2019-11-24 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Perhaps the split is more generational. On Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 3:32 PM Andrew Lockley wrote: > > Poster's note: is this too simplistic? I'd say the split is not > necessarily the same for biochar, afforestation, and SRM. Is there any data > on this? > > > https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/22/913