Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-28 Thread Bolla, Péter
Hmm. Hints.FEATURE_2D exists on trunk, with "@since 2.4.1", but it is not referenced from anywhere in the code. Could it be, that it was introduced in 2.4.1, but the usages where not "foreward-ported"? Peter Bolla, Péter wrote: > I revoke this question. I overlooked the fact, that there is an

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-28 Thread Bolla, Péter
I revoke this question. I overlooked the fact, that there is an overloaded version of getFeatureReader(...) which takes the Query as parameter. Peter Bolla, Péter wrote: > > Jody Garnett wrote: >> My understanding is: >> - your DataStore/FeatureSource has a "get supported hints" method; you

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-28 Thread Bolla, Péter
Jody Garnett wrote: > > My understanding is: > - your DataStore/FeatureSource has a "get supported hints" method; you > need to advertise the fact that you understand the FEATURE_2D hint > - when your FeatureSource is a getFeatures( Query ) call you can check > the Hints provided by the client

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-28 Thread Jody Garnett
Bolla, Péter wrote: > I'm getting back to this Hint. > Jody Garnett wrote: >> Thus was born the Hints.FORCE_2D - so if your datastore can support >> this hint (which is used by the renderer) we should be able to cut >> off the data before the render gets confused. > Did you mean Hints.FEATURE_2D?

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-28 Thread Bolla, Péter
I'm getting back to this Hint. Jody Garnett wrote: > Thus was born the Hints.FORCE_2D - so if your datastore can support this > hint (which is used by the renderer) we should be able to cut off the > data before the render gets confused. Did you mean Hints.FEATURE_2D? And how can I use the hint

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-21 Thread Jody Garnett
Bolla, Péter wrote: >> The rendering engine would set that Hints.FORCE_2D hint; and thus the >> DataStore would drop the excess ordinates before returning the data >> for rendering. The hard part for me is the handling of the >> CoordinateReferneceSystem ... >> - we really should have a Coordina

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-21 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I'm afraid I'm not a regular UDig user. (I don't even know if I still have it installed on my computer.) So I'm probably not the best person for this task. I'm really the most interested in making low-level access available to GPX files, although I do want to study how you made GPX entities availa

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-21 Thread Bolla, Péter
Jody Garnett wrote: > The rendering engine would set that Hints.FORCE_2D hint; and thus the > DataStore would drop the excess ordinates before returning the data for > rendering. The hard part for me is the handling of the > CoordinateReferneceSystem ... > - we really should have a CoordinateR

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Jody Garnett
Bolla, Péter wrote: > Jody Garnett wrote: >> Oh! We have actual progress to report on that front; I have been >> trying to let GeoServer work with 3D data; and one of the >> optimizations Andrea asked for was the ability to throw away any data >> beyond X and Y (since it was not going to be used

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Bolla, Péter
Jody Garnett wrote: > Oh! We have actual progress to report on that front; I have been trying > to let GeoServer work with 3D data; and one of the optimizations Andrea > asked for was the ability to throw away any data beyond X and Y (since > it was not going to be used for rendering). > > Thu

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Jody Garnett
Bolla, Péter wrote: >> Here is an alternative; you can ask a JTS CoordinateSequence to hold >> your own Coordinates that can include x,y,z and a time stamp. While >> this is easier with ISO Geometry (where your CRS could literally be >> x,y,time) you can certaintly fake it with JTS right now. >

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Peter, You wrote: "The problem with the timestamps come up in the case of the tracks. For waypoints - a point feature - you can store the geographic coordinates in the geometry, and the timestamp as an attributte. But with tracks - which intuitively should be a linestring - you can have timestamps

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Jody Garnett
Oh! We have actual progress to report on that front; I have been trying to let GeoServer work with 3D data; and one of the optimizations Andrea asked for was the ability to throw away any data beyond X and Y (since it was not going to be used for rendering). Thus was born the Hints.FORCE_2D - s

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Bolla, Péter
Jody Garnett wrote: > Do you have specifics? It sounds fine to me; you may uncover some bugs > along the way .. but the OracleDataStore does similar tricks when > working with x,y,z,m data (ie from LRS datasets). I think the other fun > bit of info would be a new GeoTools Function to "grab" th

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Bolla, Péter
Jody Garnett wrote: > Bolla, Péter wrote: [...] >> current implementation of the GPX datastore in the repository extends >> JTS to use 4 coordinates for every point, so it can store the >> timestamp along with the geometry, and I could even define a compound >> CRS with 4 axes (lat, lon, eleva

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Jody Garnett
Bolla, Péter wrote: > Hi, > > The problem with the timestamps come up in the case of the tracks. For > waypoints - a point feature - you can store the geographic coordinates > in the geometry, and the timestamp as an attributte. But with tracks - > which intuitively should be a linestring - you

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Bolla, Péter
Hi, The problem with the timestamps come up in the case of the tracks. For waypoints - a point feature - you can store the geographic coordinates in the geometry, and the timestamp as an attributte. But with tracks - which intuitively should be a linestring - you can have timestamps for every

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-20 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Peter, You wrote: "So if I might suggest a path how to get involved, there is a much more GIS related problem with the GPX datastore, than the xml parsing. It is the temporal capabilities, that is only very coarsly supported by geotools (and I guess by any other GIS toolkit), and makes it hard to

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-19 Thread Bolla, Péter
Hi, I just read this thread, and as the "owner" of the code I would clarify some points :) First, what I meant by "Though Justin said that even he doesn't use that now, but an other way." in my answer to Landon, is that the method, how I _generated_ the beans were outdated, but as far as I know

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-16 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I'm starting to see more of the puzzle now, based on your comments. I think JAXB might be overkill at this point. I don't really need a binding framework. I think I might use JDOM initially, although I know this will impose a RAM limitation on the size of the GPX files that can be supported. Howev

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-16 Thread Jody Garnett
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Jody wrote: Interesting; do you know what parser Peter was using? > > I should have included an excerpt of my conversation with Peter. Here it is... > > Landon asked Peter: Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! I > look forward to working on the GPX module for G

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-16 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Jody wrote: Interesting; do you know what parser Peter was using? I should have included an excerpt of my conversation with Peter. Here it is... Landon asked Peter: Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! I look forward to working on the GPX module for GeoTools. I've got a quick question f

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-15 Thread Jody Garnett
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Jody wrote: "Nice work! It is so much easier to proceed when there is > someone who "owns" the code." > > Peter sounds like he'll be able to answer questions, but I don't think > he currently has the time to actively maintain the module. Maybe that > is why work on the m

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-15 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Jody wrote: "Nice work! It is so much easier to proceed when there is someone who "owns" the code." Peter sounds like he'll be able to answer questions, but I don't think he currently has the time to actively maintain the module. Maybe that is why work on the modile has tappered off. After lookin

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-15 Thread Jody Garnett
We managed to fall off the list with your last reply ... Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Jody, > > Thanks for answering all of my questions. Additional comments can be > found below: > > Jody wrote: "The user guide has instructions for using maven to "ask" > what the dependencies are for a given plug-

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-15 Thread Adrian Custer
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:20 -0700, Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > I finally got the export of a PDF version of the GeoTools developer > guide to work after singing up with Codehaus. Perhaps we should add a > note indicating that the document conversion will only work for > registered users of the site

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-15 Thread Martin Desruisseaux
Sunburned Surveyor a écrit : > [2] Where would I find a list of third party JARS already included as > a dependency in GeoTools? The Developer's Guide mentioned this site: > http://mvnrepository.com/. I'm not sure if that is what I am really > looking for. Isn't that a list of all the Jars in some

Re: [Geotools-devel] Questions and comments after review of GeoTools developer guide.

2008-05-14 Thread Jody Garnett
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > I finally got the export of a PDF version of the GeoTools developer > guide to work after singing up with Codehaus. Perhaps we should add a > note indicating that the document conversion will only work for > registered users of the site? Or I can just remove the button a