Hello GEPers,
As someone who has studied and written about climate skepticism, there
are many strands in this discussion I would like to pick up on.
I will start with whether or not skepticism is almost exclusively a
global North position.
As I wrote in the 2005 “Democracy, Technocracy and US
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I agree with Wil on this one. Krugman's anger and contempt are not
aimed all all citizens who are skeptical, but squarely at
Republicans in Congress
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I agree with Wil on this one. Krugman's anger and contempt are not aimed
all all citizens who are skeptical, but squarely at Republicans in Congress
-- elected in theory to represent people's
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Hi Peter (and everyone, thanks for the discussion),
One thing you say below
And please add in the other group of 'skeptics' one would encounter in
developing countries, those pro-growth enthusiasts who don't want anything
coming between their playing catch-up with the industrialized North. China and
India certainly fall in this category.
Deb.
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And please add in the other group of 'skeptics' one would
encounter in
developing countries, those pro-growth enthusiasts who don't
want anything
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Yes, it's interesting to see how the 'polluter pays' argument (developed
countries put the vast
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I'm enjoying the thread and hope it continues.
Per the Krugman editorial, I'd love to hear some reactions.
IMHO, I think it appeals
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Hi Frank,
I actually didn’t find Krugman’s piece as so much smug as extremely angry, and
I have to say it’s exactly how I feel on this issue, especially when I watch my
six-year old playing in the back yard, or I travel
Reading this debate, I was reminded again of an excellent article I read back
in
March on Freeman Dyson (see below). I, personally, have always thought of
myself
as a skeptic - not of global warming but its global and local effects. I often
find my skepticism scary, given the fact that I am
As a natural scientist, I wanted to weigh in on this. The key for me was the
predictive and explanatory power of global warming theory. This is the
strength of any successful scientific hypothesis. So many observed phenomena
are explained by the theory that it becomes very, very likely that it is
Folks:
A slightly different take picking up from Larry Davis' post and thinking
through framing rather than anger ...
Science doesn't explain everything, and the huge problem with framing
climate change as an either or, right wrong matter is precisely that it
pretends science is something it
To add to some of the threads above...
In all this talk about framing, it's important to remember the difference
between the psychological term and how it's used by political scientists.
Originally, framing referred to the set of stereotypes that an individual
uses to interpret information and
with students and a general audience in mind
it has classroom potential.
Simon
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Folks:
I don't think anyone on the GEPED list has yet mentioned Mike Hulme's new 2009
Cambridge University book Why We Disagree about Climate Change: Understanding
Controversy, Inaction and Opportunity. The book presents climate change as both
a physical
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The list, like the prior one of 450 Marc Morano put together for Inhofe, is
a joke. You can find a lot of info on it at places like these two:
Climate Progess [http
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Many thanks to all who responded.
Clearly
ive Think Tanks and Environmental Scepticism.” Environmental
Politics 17:349-385.
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Valuable new references - thanks, all.
My 2 cents on this is: instead of punch-by-punch countering of phony
robustly in class.
Howard S. Schiffman, J.D., LL.M., Ph.D.
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Folks:
I don't think anyone on the GEPED list has yet mentioned Mike Hulme's
new 2009 Cambridge University
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Wil -
I agree to some extent, but look at it from a slightly different
perspective.
Don't think for a minute that it isn't PRECISELY one of their tactics to
engage scientists or pro-environmental folks
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Wil -
I agree to some extent, but look at it from a slightly different
perspective.
Don't think for a minute
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Wil -
I agree to some extent, but look at it from a slightly different
perspective.
Don't think for a minute that it isn't PRECISELY one of their tactics to
engage
Interesting discussion.
Krugman takes issue with skeptics in congress. His views are not news but
a nice context for the discussion:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/opinion/29krugman.html
Paul Wapner
Associate Professor
Director, Global Environmental Politics Program
School of
Dear All -
While discussing climate change with 'skeptics', I've been presented with
the following article:
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.BlogsConten
Steve,
A good place for an overview on this stuff is http://www.realclimate.org/
The arguments in the web link you provide have
been around, in varied forms, for some time, even
though they're regularly contextualized and
refuted. There's a nice literature on the
political strategy and
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Dear All -
While discussing climate change with 'skeptics', I've been presented with
the following article:
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs
http
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