I disagree with Anand here. I think there is pretty
even balance on Goanet between posts that are
anti-Hindu, anti-Christian, anti-Muslim,
anti-non-Goan, anti-Indian, anti-Portuguese,
anti-western, anti-science, anti-establishment, etc.
That is how it should be in a secular public forum.
Cheers,
The following post reveals the creationist position of
a spokesman of one religious organization out of many.
There are several misconceptions regarding evolution
in this post. Those who want to know what these
misconceptions are can email me privately.
However, scientists, science in general and
Fr. Ivo's latest installment, appended below, once
again clearly shows that not being a scientist, he
consistently misunderstands what scientists like the
noted evolutionary biologist Francisco Ayala and
myself write about science.
I must tell you that the direct response of Francisco
Ayala to
--- J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While this is how it IS ... I disagree that this is
how it SHOULD BE
in a secular forum.
Anti-this and Anti-that is abnormal ab inicio.
Josebab,
Sorry, the should be applies to the even balance
between all the antis, not to the antis themselves.
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do Goans have an anti- gene? Can DNA tests be
expanded to confirm this? George
George,
Actually, you raise a very serious question. It is
well known that opposition to something motivates
people to take action much better than support for
something.
--- Fr. Ivo da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you say that God is a figment of mind, then
you can use all these terms to miracles and
supernatural realities-- the existence of God is
superstition or unfounded-irrational belief (This
would be a good strategy), hallucination
in a common
Unfortunately, when a gratuitous hate post is directed
against an unrepresented minority there is no one to
counter to it. I can only imagine how Tariq might have
responded to this if he were still subscribed to this
mailing list.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Edward Desilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excellent, Pravin! Here's one of mine.
Net-Goa: Land remaining in Goan hands
More later.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's my list of ten for the charitable cause:
1. drain-brain: amnesia
2. duper-super: smart crook
I think it is quite clear who is unnecessarily
stirring trouble on Goanet, and who the insurgent and
the trouble-maker is in this case. It is certainly not
Tariq, who was a long time Goanetter and a very
sensible young man. It is also certainly not anybody
with a Muslim name.
Cheers,
Santosh
It is true that to free ourselves from the well-worn
caricatures created by bhaile from the Indian
swamp we have to educate ourselves about our
indigenous culture, which stretches over three
millennia. The irony is that in doing so we will find
out how deeply moored we are in the Indian swamp, and
Hi Mervyn,
Here's more:
Mate-room: bridal suite
Hole-pot: perforated weed
Man-post: phallic symbol
Down-let: ground floor rental
Moon-honey: long form of money
Port-air: foul land breeze
Productive-counter: cashiers desk
Light-high: mildly intoxicated
Stamp-rubber: branded barrier contraceptive
I have several problems with this prelude to a
têteàtête from Rajan, as with some of his other
logorrheic missives.
I do not think an interrogation by Dr. Parrikar is
more credible than a certificate from India experts
from anywhere. While a temperate 3-month travelogue
has value beyond its
Bloody why are you Goanese fellows freaking out man? It is a bloody comedy show
man. Go have a bloody rice cake with feni or something and bloody integrate
with Hindus, Muslims and tings like that.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Knowing how Noronha operates in cyberspace and in print media, it is not
surprising to see why Mervyn is having such difficulty obtaining a straight
answer to a simple question from him. However, there still seems to be
something strange about this episode. Why is Noronha behaving in this
The post appended below contains bogus and dangerous information regarding
coconut oil and human health and disease. The U.S. Department of Health and
Human Services has issued a strong warning against irresponsible alternative
medics who propagate these myths on the internet. Here is a copy of
Corrections of misconceptions contained in the post appended below are as
follows:
1. Rabies does present as psychiatric illness in many cases because of the
encephalitis that it produces. Indeed, on rare occasions it can manifest as
severe depression.
2. There is no evidence that virgin
--- On Thu, 12/3/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:
The conversion might also be a deterrent for the others to come to Goa who
knows? I wonder if President Pandurang from Pandurangstan has implemented
this programme.
President Pandurang is retired. The new president is Urrak Mama
--- On Fri, 12/4/09, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote:
But Mario, one thing puzzles me. We in Goa ate nothing but
coconut copra oil for ages and if people died of choked
cardio vascular systems and high LDL we would never know.
But sure as hell they didn't die at 40-45 :-)). Then, all
Folks,
As a charitable activity of his post-presidency, President Pandurang has given
me permission to launch the Pandurang Project, an adult science literacy drive
to provide free remedial education to a cyber-audience whose members have been
ill-served by their browser, inbox and spam
The post appended below provides us with an important lesson. The moral of the
story told in it is, please do not rely on anecdotes. What they tell you cannot
be generalized. The reason for this is very simple. Most things in life and
about life are very complicated, including the genes that
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
The readers can read the following and make their own
judgment of who is giving us the BS.
Reading the two excerpts below that Gilbert provided did not give me any reason
to doubt the authenticity of any of the statements
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
Theology is a deeper reflection on the Word of God in the light of today's
philosophy and sciences.
Today's sciences have nothing to do with anybody's theology or atheology. I
would urge Goanetters not to mix their religion with
Floriano wrote:
Can you elucidate me some as to how these drugs did get the OK in the first
place if the prio proven results were completely documented?
Dear Floriano,
Assuming that a regulatory agency is functioning optimally and responsibly, two
reasons why a drug that got an approval
--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Thalidomide? hGH (causing cjd)?
These are wrong examples. Thalidomide was not approved by U.S. FDA when its
teratogenic (birth defect causing) effects were discovered. The naturally
occurring human Growth Hormone
--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
There cannot be incompatibility between Reason and Faith, between Theology
and Sciences.
All 1200 or so theologies and atheologies of this world are completely
incompatible with science for two main reasons:
1. Because unlike
The article appended below appears to have been faithfully plagiarized from the
internet. Plagiarism is as bad as the independent journalism against science
and reality that we see in this forum from some quarters.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Paul Fernandes paulj...@gmail.com wrote:
--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric, This is apparently an urban legend
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp
probably as accurate as the science-can-do-no-wrong logic
we see here. FN
How long will this Goanet administrator be
--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com wrote:
Johns Hopkins is now suggesting that prevention is better than that type
of cure---chemotherapy successful because it killed the
cancer cells, but the patient died as well!
This is the problem we are faced with
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
I refer to Christian theology. There cannot be incompatibility between
Christian Revelation and Sciences.
There is also a faith-verification. Scientists may not understand it.
As a gazetted
Photos from Goa's 2009 mando festival:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/
Event on Wed, Thurs evening from 5 pm onwards, Kala Academy, Panaji-Goa
Marlon forgot to take into account the homeopathic principle of increasing the
potency of a drug by repeated dilution. According to homeopathy, the more
dilute a drug, the stronger are its therapeutic effects. The strongest drug
solution is one in which there is not even a single molecule of
--- On Sat, 12/12/09, From PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone have the right to end one’s life, even under any religion?
Any person can end his life by Samadhi in Hinduism and Buddhism, and by
Santhara in Jainism. A woman could end her life by Sati in Hinduism before it
was
--- On Sat, 12/12/09, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com wrote:
Largescale clinical trials would be needed to determine the efficacy of the
following: a)medication made using oil and feni from the same trees, vs.
that made from different trees; b) palm feni/coconut oil/holy water
--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Is Samadhi the same as suicide? Here's another view:
Here are the legal and medical definitions of suicide, which apply to the act
of taking a samadhi, prayopavesa or santhara:
Suicide - The voluntary and
I point out below two absurdities regarding medical cures posted in this forum.
The first one demonstrates faulty logic. Here is the relevant quote:
QUOTE
Yes, the oncologists could not even prolong his life. That confirms what
I said. I find a confirmation in the statement of medical
Fr. Ivo wrote:
Homeopaths are not giving you statistics of the cures that they have
achieved so far. They go on curing people without any fuss...
Even people who are gullible enough to believe that plain sugar pills can cure
serious diseases should find it hard to swallow the applesauce that
--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
***Was it suicide? The neuroscientist is trying to bluff
the readers and me...
The above accusation is false. Here is the statement by Victorbab that the
concerned patient committed suicide:
when he could not take the pain and the
If I understand Mario's ideological position on this issue correctly it is the
following:
1. He does not deny that there is strong scientific evidence for global warming.
2. He does not deny the evidence that there has been a continuous increase in
the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere,
This news story is a travesty. The finding that is highlighted and
sensationalized is cherry picked from within the bowels of the original Pew
report. That finding is not even mentioned in the executive summary. The title
is completely misleading.
Here is the link to the executive summary of
Averthan avert...@gmail.com wrote:
The vast majority of medical opinion holds that a human
embryo or foetus is a distinct human person. This should be
obvious to anyone with common sense.
This is pure nonsense. The term human person is a religious term. The vast
majority of medical
Here are my responses to some comments in this thread.
--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
So in your opinion, when does an embryo begin to possess a living and
functioning brain and thus become a sentient being,
From a neurophysiological
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:
IS THIS NOT CHURCH SPONSORED GOONDAISM?
No it is not. It is goondaism sponsored by the person who rang the church bell
and the person(s) who authorized or approved the ringing, as well as the people
who took part in the
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This new installment on the above-referenced subject from Shri Averthanus L.
D'Souza appears to be a rambling diatribe meant to deflect attention from the
serious scientific and philosophical points made in my earlier responses. The
use of “we”, “our” and us in this screed makes it appear that
I understand why human beings hate human beings from other nations, groups and
tribes. But I have never understood self-hate. As far as some Goans are
concerned, the only explanation I can think of is that they want to deny their
Indian origin.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Salus
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, cyril D'Souza cyril43deso...@gmail.com wrote:
The sad part is that the article has come from least expected quarters and
should serve as a wake up call to the church authorities in Goa who now
should aggressively try to strive to promote the right values especially
The information provided in the post appended below by Fr. Ivo is completely
bogus. In India medical abortion or medical termination of pregnancy is
completely legal. It is NOT regarded as murder. Contrary to what is claimed in
the bogus post, the details of the legality of this medical
Ivo da C.Souza icsouza at bsnl.in wrote:
The issue is not religion, but science. The
beginning of human life is at the conception, as the
science of Human Embryology has clearly stated
(cf.http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kisc/kisc_01humanembryology.html):
The above website has nothing to do
It is amusing to see political propaganda in the form of a religious prayer in
a state legislature of a secular country being touted as the bare truth and
as a desideratum for India by people who claim to be secular. It is
illuminating to find out that these secular folk are against the
Venantius,
I am a founding member of the Association of Friends of Asrronomy, Goa. Today,
there are many budding amateur astronomers who are its members. The AFA has
organized talks by several eminent astronomers and astrophysicists over the
years. Indeed, one of the first talks we organized
I am afraid, Shri Averthanus D’Souza gets a zero on the latest answers he has
submitted to Goanet. All seven of his answers are wrong. It appears that he has
simply made up his answers without acquiring real knowledge from reading or
listening to knowledgeable teachers. Here are my corrections
The hyperbolic claims in the post appended below by global warming deniers that
Himalayan glaciers are not receding, are bogus. Here is a 2006 peer-reviewed
scientific research article in the journal Annals of Glaciology giving us the
evidence for recession of Himalayan glaciers:
I have already provided factual data that debunk the global cooling in the
1970s myth. Here are the facts provided by the University of California at San
Diego that support the conclusion that anthropogenic rise in CO2 is responsible
for global warming:
To find out real facts regarding melting Himalayan glaciers uncovered by Indian
and Nepali scientists, please refer to the numerous authentic studies published
in scientific journals. Here is one such study entitled Glaciers, glacial
lakes and glacial lake outburst floods in the
Mount Everest
I don't think this would make any difference to people who treat this as a
political or ideological issue rather than a scientific one. If one is
interested in scientific facts and debates then it is best to consult only
authentic scientific sources such as science journals and magazines, and
Looks like this geology graduate gets his scientific information only from
newspaper columnists and bureaucrats. For those who would prefer to look at
real scientific data, instead, here are the actual monthly temperature
anomalies for 2009 and all prior years since 1880:
--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Francis Rodrigues fcarodrig...@hotmail.com wrote:
Langoti Long John Silva is a globe-trotting Goencar,
always accompanied by his foul-mouthed parrot Cocky
N.Y. conman Mauvin Bobo's starched shorts fuels his chronic
bile.
OK. Now the man has graduated to making wild accusations of corruption against
reputed governmental scientific organizations just to support his own ideology.
Does he also believe that the moon landing was a hoax?
Please note that he does not accuse the newspaper political columnists of
Here is why what is written in the post appended below defies reason and
reality.
None of the claims made by the author Gabriel has any factual basis.
1. Scientific skepticism is supposed to be based on conflicting scientific
data. It cannot be based on newspaper columns, sound bites of
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The post appended below betrays a
I strongly object to this smearing and denigration of Nandakumar Kamat by
Augusto Pinto for selfish person political reasons. Arundhati Roy has been
rightly and rightfully criticized for her advocacy of violent Naxalite
extremists by Nandakumar, Selma and others because they pose as grave a
I have no idea what the purpose of the post appended below is. It appears that
in it new allegations have been leveled against Nandakumar, along with modest
praise of him. I also noticed the gratuitous inclusion of baseless taunts
against unrelated individuals, including one against a
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, soter so...@bsnl.in wrote:
Conventional medicine (Allopathy) claims there is little chance of survival
from Ratol poisoning. It claims that liver transplant is the only
option. Is this true?
Where and by whom were these claims made?
Is there no alternative medicine
--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:
PS: It's not fair to take the crank elements out of
alternative forms of medicine, and compare these with the
more trustworthy ones of allopathy.
How would you detect the crank elements of alternative medicine? What
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
The recording of the meeting is up on
YouTubehttp://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10pid=2243eid=31
The speakers in the above recording entitled India's War on People quite
brazenly introduce us to a version of
What is the purpose of this propaganda piece? Does he want to propagate his own
brand of religion, denigrate India, malign Hindus and Catholics who are not
like him, stereotype and ridicule people from different Indian states? What?
Why does he deny the fact that India is a secular country?
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with
something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this ridiculous article it
looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted
definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with
something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this article it looks like
chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition
of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument
Thoughtful valid self-criticism is always welcome. Indeed it is essential for
any kind of progress to occur. It is a hallmark of rational thought and
scientific inquiry. But the article in question has very little to offer in
this vein.
On the contrary, as Amita Kanekar so nicely pointed out,
One of the misfortunes of India is Indians like Nascy who have never had any
attachment to their motherland or their fellow countrymen, let alone any sense
of pride, responsibility or duty towards them. In my opinion, along with
corruption and other ills, the disgraceful attitude displayed,
Nascy,
Here is why it is you, in addition to the corrupt politicians and some
irresponsible Indians, who bring shame to India.
1. You are completely clueless about the great stalwarts of 20th century India,
who were mathematical and scientific geniuses, and whose work contributed to
the
The purpose and meaning of the following post are a mystery. Even after reading
it twice, I do not have answers to following questions:
1. What is the eureka moment?
2. Where was the temple?
3. What structure stands in its place now?
4. What are the names of the respected Goanetters mentioned
As I have said before, criticism has to be legitimate and substantive. It has
to result from a genuine appraisal of facts. Criticism borne out of ignorance,
prejudice or political bias is worthless. It misdirects our efforts at finding
remedies, and contributes to the perpetuation of ignorance
Good to know that, unlike Nascy, Jim has heard of two Indian scientists
mentioned by me. But from the earlier claim of zero contributions by Indians we
now have the goal post being moved to lack of proportional contribution. Is
this supposed to be contribution per capita or contribution per
Nandakumar,
A couple of questions.
First, are you preparing to send these findings for publication in a
peer-reviewed archeological journal? That would be the appropriate thing to do
to validate your findings.
Second, I had read that the land of Goa was under the sea until about 1
B.C.E.
Nascy,
What you have written below and in an accompanying post is utter rubbish. You
are fixated on what people eat, and how they dress. If they eat and dress like
you, you call them civilized. Talk about mono-cultural, this is mono-maniacal
stupidity. I am quite certain that the Australian
--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Like Santosh remarks to Nasci - I am ashamed of being an indian.
What I said was that it was people like Nascy who bring shame to India. Like
Jose, I did not know that Bernado considered himself an Indian. I thought that
he was
I read and re-read this part 2 of eureka moment. I still do not know what the
eureka moment is. I also do not know why Gilbert keeps copying and pasting
verbatim some of the same stuff he had posted on Goanet not very long ago.
Please see his earlier post entitled Recapping Goa's History in
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, radharao gracias graciasradha...@gmail.com wrote:
I must compliment Santosh Helekar, at the outset, for
proving me right. He has taken over the leadership of the chauvanists.
I feel vindicated by the response that has come from fellow
Indians settled abroad.
Vindicated
--- On Wed, 7/7/10, radharao gracias graciasradha...@gmail.com wrote:
I fail to understand whether Santosh Helekar is deliberately misinterpreting
the contents of my article or he lacks knowledge of the
English language. In my article, I have stated: Our contribution to
civilization
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, pinheiro gift.pinhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Two observation on these debates:
Are we Goans Pseudointellectual?
Goanet is the only place wherein you can even strip and
slap (with words) the Moderator/Admin and you are
still not thrown out of the forum.
My two
and criminal action.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote:
The reason I am writing about this on GoaNet is because, a
fellow GoaNetter named Santosh Helekar included me in this
non-GoaNet related group, when I responded to a thread on
GoaNet. He had
Shri Fernandes,
These bogus rules and etiquettes of yours are a figment of your imagination.
Goanet has no such rules. It is a public forum. Discussions on it can be
continued in any other forum or mailing list. What a private free citizen does
in this regard is his/her own business. Nobody
to get off this
'spammers list'
and he's dragged back kicking and squealing everytime. I
think this is
as unfair as laughing at the pig we're going to slice up
for the
feast, as he keeps protesting!
FN
On 10 July 2010 00:56, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Shri Fernandes
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote:
I had asked to be off this list but still I am there..my email ID is being
flashed on goemchim xapotom and also another recently formed group...though
am no longer subscribed to these groups.
Like Admin Noronha, Eddie is
The Wikipedia definitions of email harvesting and email spam below make it
crystal clear how Admin Noronha is distorting these meanings to badmouth those
who like being subscribed to alternative Goan mailing lists, such as Goenchim
Xapotam, or be on a cc list consisting of Goans who have quit
Francis (FCA) Rodriguez wrote:
Only a threat to inform his employer stopped the dysfunctional Helekar from
spamming me too. He does not believe in a Do Not Spam policy. Helekar is
not a don't - just a can't!
Please note that FCA Rodriguez has found this an opportunity to abuse me
because of
Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote:
Pls tell goanetters what falsehoods I have spread here?
Eddie,
The falsehoods you have spread and are spreading now are the following:
1. That your email ID is flashed on GX and AGD.
2. That someone can get your email ID by simply signing onto a
Eddie,
Here are answers to your questions.
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote:
You have still not answered my question why even part of my
email address which can be replied by the group members
is appearing in GX and AGD of which I am not a member?
The
Admin Noronha wrote:
While nobody seems to how to get off the lists, I'm willing to bet that
nobody knows either of how one can get ON these lists! As of now, it
is a priviledge of only a select few. Either you are born into it,
or...
For those who are curious, check out:
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is so easy to bad-mouth others. Goans make a virtue to those crab-like
traits with convoluted arguments and sophistry.
Why is Gilbert badmounthing and abusing other Goans and other Goan forums on
Goanet. Is he afflicted
Bosco wrote:
Rico, Eddie, Jim, etc are only expressing themselves too simply.
Does Goanet consider personal attacks against fellow Goans by individuals such
as Francis, Gilbert, etc. expressing themselves too simply?
Cheers,
Santosh
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