GAE went live to cheers from happy developers who could quickly tinker away
at the new technology. Wave has certainly been hyped, but all the early
enthusiasts seem to be angry/frustrated/resigned at this point due to lack
of developer accounts and/or communication from the Wave team.
How did GAE
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Adam wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2:08 pm, mytemp wrote:
> >
> > So, if I had access to a rockstar Python/GAE person (or two)... at a
> > reasonable price, I think I'd just go GAE. Anyone?
>
> I definitely agree with this. All other things being equal, I'd say
> the Ap
Is there a story, here, or just a random outburst? I've certainly been
shopped on this list previously, had my time wasted and my expertise stolen
by the likes of Twittertise & its 'creator' ... but you don't see me
attacking everyone coming here looking for a developer.
Thanks-
- Andy Badera
- an
I'm pretty sure #1 is correct. Of course, it's not a hard limit in
the sense that the 31st request is dropped, rather it's queued, but
yes it's unfortunate.
On Jul 15, 10:33 pm, Jeff Enderwick wrote:
> 1) I saw that 30 was listed somewhere as the max simultaneous dynamic
> requests for an app.
1) I saw that 30 was listed somewhere as the max simultaneous dynamic
requests for an app. Is this really true? Even if I am paying, and I
have a very popular app? I see the math indicating that one can retire
400/sec with 75ms latency, but I am sure that GOOG-internal apps
aren't held to this lim
On Jul 15, 2:08 pm, mytemp wrote:
>
> So, if I had access to a rockstar Python/GAE person (or two)... at a
> reasonable price, I think I'd just go GAE. Anyone?
I definitely agree with this. All other things being equal, I'd say
the AppEngine is the better deal. From my experience here in the
Bo
I was unaware that Azure's formal pricing model was announced and that
it includes no free resources. From my stand-point, I consider that to
weigh heavily in favor or AppEngine.
With GAE, I can deploy low-bandwidth applications like my blog at no
on-going cost at all. I'd be quite happy if it be
Hello,
I need to make the task-queue worker URLs accessible only to the task
queue, and not to people who happen to guess the URL but are not
administrators. Unfortunately, the access restriction option appears
to mess up the retry mechanism of the task queue.
Base scenario: with no changes to my
You can a few of these things by integrating http://shell.appspot.com
into your application
2009/7/15 JoeM :
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know of a datastore utility that can do the following
> things:
>
> 1) Run on a developers machine accessing the local datastore.
> 2) Test the integrity of a
The FROM address must either be a.) the currently logged in user, or
b.) a registered admin of the app. If you want to get around that
limitation, you'll have to utilize a service external to GAE.
On Jul 15, 6:02 pm, thebrianschott wrote:
> Wooble,
>
> Thanx, I did not realize that sendmail
> h
Hello,
I tried to create an application in the App Engine but couldn't verify
my account since there's no SMS support for my country.
Is there any other way of verifying my account?
Thanks a lot.
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It's pieces of sh*t like you who give this industry a bad name. All
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On Jul 15, 1:35 pm, mytemp wrote:
> Looking for rockstar Python developers that are fast and can take an
> idea (with some detail) to
Hi all,
I want to increase my quotas and do so from the Billing Settings
section of the admin interface. I go through the Google Checkout
process without any issues. When I check my inbox I get two emails,
one confirming my new order and another one stating that my order has
been canceled. The
Wooble,
Thanx, I did not realize that sendmail
has that limitation. Is there a workaround
within the gae, or do I need to revise the
instructions to my app to tell users that
they will need to forward messages from
within their gmail account?
Brian
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I believe that the difference between urlfetch and urllib2 is
superficial - App Engine makes all requests using urlfetch, regardless
of which lib you use in your code.
On Jul 15, 4:55 pm, epb wrote:
> On Jul 15, 4:05 pm, Tony wrote:
>
> > The response has the "Set-cookie" header set, which will
On Jul 15, 4:05 pm, Tony wrote:
> The response has the "Set-cookie" header set, which will cause the
> user's browser to save the cookie and then present it on the next
> request (after redirected by the 302). In my code I've opted not to
> follow the redirect, and extracted the cookie myself, b
The response has the "Set-cookie" header set, which will cause the
user's browser to save the cookie and then present it on the next
request (after redirected by the 302). In my code I've opted not to
follow the redirect, and extracted the cookie myself, because it's the
urlfetch service doing th
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:03 PM, richard
emberson wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
> Again, thank you for your response.
>
> Two Items
>
> First Item:
> Is there some Java API to the short term quotas so the I can
> write code that "knows" how fast to go and when to stop?
> If not, are the upload short term rat
I can see why Tony's version would work. His "algorithm" has two
steps:
1. Get the authorization token using ClientLogin (which I also managed
to do).
2. Use the uri "servername/_ah/login" to get the auth. cookie.
The appengine_rpc module seems to do authentication in a similar way:
A. Try to a
When I send in a request that ought to log something
at the INFO level, nothing shows up in the Log viewer.
When I make some requests I get a 500 response code,
internal server error, but nothing shows up in the
Log viewer. So, I can not tell what the problem is.
Richard
--
Quis custodiet ipso
Looking for rockstar Python developers that are fast and can take an
idea (with some detail) to something working very quickly, even better
if they know how to make it pretty and do front-end work to so I don't
need a designer right off the bat.
Prefer experience with merchant account integration
Yes. You pay for all CPU cycles used, and all requests count toward
your request total.
On Jul 15, 2:22 pm, bvelasquez wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm curious if returning an error on a request still counts towards
> your quota? I have a request that is being made, which is not
> authorized based on m
The severity levels in the log viewer are:
DEBUG
INFO
WARNING
ERROR
CRITICAL
The Java logger has levels:
FINEST
FINER
FINE
CONFIG
INFO
WARNING
SEVERE
What is the mapping between the two?
Thanks
Richard
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Y
Hi Danny,
I think your design sounds good for the use case that you describe. If each
item has one category, then this should be straightforward.
Thank you,
Jeff
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Danny ZI wrote:
>
> hello im trying to understand how to build a DB when i have one class
> that
Hello,
I'm curious if returning an error on a request still counts towards
your quota? I have a request that is being made, which is not
authorized based on my sites security. I return an error
immediately. However, does this request still count? Could someone
basically make repeated requests
Ultimately the question the TOS is asking is: "are multiple appspot
apps being used to circumvent quotas/limits?"
It would seem to me that a facebook-clone app like you describe would
see considerable savings by splitting into multiple apps (because of
the free quota allotted to each app), which
Ah, thanks, wanted to make sure that wasn't SPAM, I am looking for
Python/GAE expertise, I'll post another message then.
Azure pricing was announced yesterday and causing me to rethink doing
Azure, I have access to a rockstar .NET programmer at a reasonable
price, so I was on the fence as I prefe
Nick,
Again, thank you for your response.
Two Items
First Item:
Is there some Java API to the short term quotas so the I can
write code that "knows" how fast to go and when to stop?
If not, are the upload short term rate limits published
somewhere? Are they based on number of requests (which I
In my GAE development, I'm wondering if an offshoot sub-application of
my main application merits being an appspot instance of its own. The
new sub-application is related but doesn't share any data with the
primary app and could be used by other parties. Would moving this sub-
app to its own appsp
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:14 PM, richard
emberson wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
> Thank you for the response.
>
> I have tens of thousands of records to load. If I load them
> all at once or "rate-limit" the load, wont I run out of the
> short term quotas just the same? Or did you mean that I
> ought to "rat
I understand that BigTable is behind GAE, but my concern is
more with GAE performance and quotas. If GAE had existed
when Larry and Sergey were developing their pagerack
algorithm, would they have used GEA for evaluation?
I have my doubts. They would quickly reach quota limits,
way before they kne
Nick,
Thank you for the response.
I have tens of thousands of records to load. If I load them
all at once or "rate-limit" the load, wont I run out of the
short term quotas just the same? Or did you mean that I
ought to "rate-limit" my load over a number of days or weeks?
I am trying to determin
Thanks for your answers.
As I understand Nick's response, I only need to use appengine_rpc.py
for the entire process. I tried the following:
---
def passwdFunc():
return ('my_email','my_passwd')
rpcServer = appengine_rpc.HttpRpcServer
('myapp.appspot.com',passwdFunc,None,'myAppName')
b
Though I realize this is not exactly what you're asking, the concept
of GAE is that it exposes some of the infrastructure that all Google
applications rely on (i.e. Datastore) for others to use. So, in a
sense, Google's various applications were using App Engine before App
Engine existed. As far
I'm expecting lots of incoming data (about 80-90 million rows per day)
that needs to be broken across many "accounts" and will largely be
retrieved as a group on the account.
I'm wanting to understand how to set up my entities and entity groups
so that the indexes are clustered around account in
Eating one's own dog food
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one's_own_dog_food
or in this case:
Using one's own cloud.
Amazon' cloud is based upon the IT technology they use
within Amazon.
Salesforce.com's Force.com offering is what they used to
build their CRM system.
These cloud vendors "Eat
I second Adam's idea regarding Azure vs AppEngine. It comes down to C#/
ASP.NET vs Python/Java. What skills/developers do you have access to. If you
have both a good Python and C#/ASP.NETdeveloper, I would probably go
for GAE/Python because of Python's innate
benefits such as being able to have mor
Thanks a lot !
it s work
Vincent
On 15 juil, 16:05, "Nick Johnson (Google)"
wrote:
> Did you make sure to log out of App Engine before accepting the invite
> in your gmail account? You need to make sure you log in using the
> gmail account to accept the invite.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
> On Wed,
Since I happened to have this up, here's a bit of sample code to get
an authentication cookie for an appspot app...
from google.appengine.api import urlfetch
from urllib import urlencode
email = request.POST['username']
passwd = request.POST['password']
serv_root = "http://myapp.appspot.com";
tar
That worked, thank you Ian!
On Jul 15, 1:24 am, Ian Lewis wrote:
> Ben,
>
> It looks like filter will add a filter to the existing query object (instead
> of creating a new query object like django does) but the fetch method will
> retrieve the objects and return them immediately without modifyi
HI All,I am writing an application in Java which will create a website for
my users using some custom fields. I want that the website built and this
application will be deployed on App Engine. Assuming that My user trust my
application and I can have their username and password enterd to my
applica
Nick, thanks a lot, I'll try it right away.
rgds,
ricardo
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Nick Johnson
(Google) wrote:
>
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> I've activated your account.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM, ricardoz wrote:
>>
>> Nick, hi. I did just that entering "+59899xx"
Actually Azure team announced commercial availability and pricing yesterday.
I don't believe production software, or any storage, will have a free quota
any longer:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsazure/archive/2009/07/14/confirming-commercial-availability-and-announcing-business-model.aspx#
Thanks-
Did you make sure to log out of App Engine before accepting the invite
in your gmail account? You need to make sure you log in using the
gmail account to accept the invite.
-Nick Johnson
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Vincent wrote:
>
> I have a gmail account vlouviaux who is not linked with m
And the second part of your question: Azure vs. GAE. I'm not aware of
any formal white papers that exist on this subject; although, I'll
wager cash money that Microsoft has a couple in the pipeline
somewhere. I work with both. I earn my salary being a happy trilobite
in the Microsoft ecosystem, so
I have a gmail account vlouviaux who is not linked with my google
acount vinc...@domain
I add it as developer , I received well the email in the box
vlouvi...@gmail.com
Then when I log in with my gmail account in appengine, I don't see the
application
And when I log with my @DOMAIN account the d
I'd say that your best bet for finding developers who are able to work
on AppEngine applications is by posting a message right here in this
group as well as in the google-appengine-python group. I do AppEngine
consulting, and a couple of clients have found me here already. I'm
sure that I'm not th
The CPU usage is request-driven; if your application is not actively
processing a request, it uses no CPU at all. It is essentially
impossible to estimate how much CPU your application will use without
gathering empirical data, so build your application, deploy it to
AppEngine and run a request. Y
On Jul 14, 8:17 pm, thebrianschott wrote:
> Regarding #1:
> I am storing it in the datastore because I want the logged-in user
> user to be able to opt for a different email address -- only one, not
> more. So isn't it Ok to use the datastore for that.
It's impossible for the application to se
Hi Ricardo,
I've activated your account.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM, ricardoz wrote:
>
> Nick, hi. I did just that entering "+59899xx" (with the x as the
> actual numbers of course) but I get then "Mobile Number or Username"
> error. The number is correct and the country
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Mark Jones wrote:
>
> I know I'm going to have LOTS of small data records from LOTS of
> people. I want to get this right so I don't have to fix it later.
> Basically, my plan was to have it structured like this:
>
> Account/Year/Month/Day/Item
>
> What I haven't
Hi Joseph,
I've activated your account.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Joseph Lam wrote:
>
> I'm getting this error "The phone number has been sent too many
> messages or has already been used to confirm an account"
>
> I've used my phone number for another free Google account b
Hi Thiago,
I've activated your account.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Thiago wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am also having problems with SMS account verification. I keep
> getting "Mobile Number or Username" error.
> I'm from Sydney, Australia. I type +61 and mobile number (no area code
>
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, epb wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to make my Python program talk to a web service hosted on
> app engine. I am using the appengine-rest-server and authentication
> using a Google account is required on the server. The idea is that the
> user specifies his username
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Peter Cicman wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> no, level and position are not identical.
>
> The idea behind it is to use level for node to know how deep in tree
> it exists, so root nodes have level=0, node with one parent have
> level=1, node with three parents (A-B-C-D) h
phtq,
This happens to me too. When I am logged in to
appengine.google.com/a/google_apps_domain.com, I can access the dashboard
etc but I can't create a new application (I would run into the same
problem).
This is what I do to create apps:
Sign-out from dashboard, you will be redirected; on that p
Hi Devel63,
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Devel63 wrote:
>
> Can someone at Google please reset the index count for judysapps-qa?
Done.
-Nick Johnson
>
> Separately, I no longer appear able to successfully upload new
> versions. appcfg.py reports success, but the files being served are
>
Hi Vincent,
In situations like this, you need to create a gmail account, and add
it as an administrator of your app. Then, use its credentials to do
bulk up/down- loading.
-Nick Johnson
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Vincent wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am still trying to download data from my app fol
Hi,
i want to calculate the cpu hours my application uses. the basic
functionality of the application is the following: it receives
messages and has to store the content :) i haven't implemented the
application yet, so I can not test how much cpu is needed..
the size of the received data is appro
Hi All,
Does anyone know of a datastore utility that can do the following
things:
1) Run on a developers machine accessing the local datastore.
2) Test the integrity of a .datastore file.
3) Present the schema of the .datastore file.
4) Allow interactive queries from a command line or GUI in
I still think it's valuable to better understand how a compute hour at
a certain price compares to running it on alternatives... do you have
the same data for AWS, Azure, or any physical/co-location data?
On Jul 14, 5:30 pm, Tim Hoffman wrote:
> > Have you ever wondered how fast Google app engin
Hi,
What's the best mechanism (or resource) to find rockstar
GoogleAppEngine/Python developers working on contract for an hourly
rate?
Also, has anyone done a good analysis of Azure vs GAE? I've already
eliminated AWS as I don't want to manage VM instances/management/
scaling nor OS images/soft
Hi
I am still trying to download data from my app following this tutorial
http://code.google.com/intl/fr/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html
But the auth always failed, I thinks it s because my Google account
has no gmail account.
Also to see my application console I need to go on
ok it s working
Thanks
Vincent
export PYTHONPATH=~/google_appengine/myapp
On 15 juil, 10:18, "Nick Johnson (Google)"
wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> See the solution you quoted - you need to make sure PYTHONPATH
> includes the path to your app.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:48
Hi Devel63,
We need to know what files you're serving that appear to be old, and
what they should be serving. My money is on a client-side caching
issue, but it's impossible to tell without more details.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Devel63 wrote:
>
> Today I am suddenly unab
Hi phtq,
What account are you signing in with? Is it the one you're using to
post to this group?
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM, phtq wrote:
>
> Hello Nick,
>
> No change. I did get an email with the subject "Welcome to an early
> look at Google App Engine for Java!", but when I
Hi Richard,
You're running into short term quotas, which are designed to prevent
you exhausting your entire quota for the day in one go. You need to
rate-limit your bulk loading code, and/or pay for additional quota.
Even enabling billing without setting a high limit will increase your
short term
Hi Vincent,
See the solution you quoted - you need to make sure PYTHONPATH
includes the path to your app.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Vincent wrote:
>
> I have also the trouble but under linux
> no models module found
>
> ImportError: No module named models
>
> any idea ?
>
>
Hi udisanet,
I've activated your account.
-Nick Johnson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM, udisanet wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In Chile there is no support for sending sms, is there an alternative
> way to activate my account?
>
> thank you very much
> Alex
>
>
> On Jul 14, 6:27 am, "Nick Johnson (Googl
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