Brian Weeden wrote:
I got a letter about this and just laughed and threw it in the trash.
If they win the class action lawsuit you get money... in the form of
rebates on Creative products. Hmmm let me think about this. You are
suing the company because they either lied to you or made a crappy
I have a few questions about removing BGP4 from our setup.
I did not set this up, at the time we had a network admin.
I am looking to remove the BGP4 and replace it with hardware load
balancing. The hardware part is all worked out I jus have a few
questions on the removing of BGP4.
Thanks,
Don
These are some of the reasons we are going to the hardware solution.
Not sure if you have budget but F5, Radware and otehrs have hardware
solutions that allow everything you are asking for.
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From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23,
The best solution to migrate from BGP4 for incoming traffic
http://www.fatpipeinc.com/
007.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:18 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] [OT] Any BGP4
Don Couture wrote:
That is how we use it. I am looking to remove it.
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From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:53 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] [OT] Any BGP4 experts on the list?
We use it only for failover between
with WinAvi it takes me something like 45 minutes for a DivX AVI to
SVCD, however if I use something else like TMPGenc then it can take a
good 3 - 4 hrs.
are you using cinema craft as the mpeg encoder for the SVCD2DVD
implementation or TMPGenc?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:37:08 +1100, Steve [EMAIL
Thank you,
This is the advise I was looking for. From my research I gathered our
ISP was responsible for the routes.
Am I correct in that only our failover ISP will have to be notified.
The primary advertises the same routes no matter what.
Thanks,
Don
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From:
Don Couture wrote:
Thank you,
This is the advise I was looking for. From my research I gathered our
ISP was responsible for the routes.
Am I correct in that only our failover ISP will have to be notified.
The primary advertises the same routes no matter what.
Thanks,
Don
You might want to talk to
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, 007 wrote:
Some quirks exist in Voice/IP.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58598-2005Mar22.html
The parents, who survived their injuries, didn't specifically request 911
services when they signed up.
Abbott, who is seeking $20,000 for each violation, said
The customer has to activate since he/she has to state where that
phone is going to be used since theoretically it can be used anywhere
it's got an internet connection. How is Vonage going to know where
you are using that phone? Hence it's up to you to do a bit of work.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005
So why not just default it to active and save lives?
Apparently because, without being told explicitly by the customer,
Vonage doesn't know which jurisdiction to forward 911 calls to.
OTOH, you would think they could default the jurisdiction to
the billing address, or require that the residence
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
So why not just default it to active and save lives?
Sure.
So, which 911 exchange should 208.20.76.243 go to? Basically, vonage has
no clue where you are located in the world when you sign up, and what
happens when you move? Like i said, during the
G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
So why not just default it to active and save lives?
They need to know where to route the information though to make the 911
call sensible. I am going to presume it is because a normal phone
line's actual numbers denotes the locality, where as a mobile phone
number is
I confess to ignorance re VoIP, but this can't be rocket science.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:29:05 -0500, j m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The customer has to activate since he/she has to state where that
phone is going to be used since theoretically it can be used anywhere
it's got an internet
I'll bet if 208.20.76.243 hacked into the DOD, they would get located.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:29:39 -0500 (EST), Christopher Fisk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
So why not just default it to active and save lives?
Sure.
So, which 911 exchange
it does need a little intervention on
the part of the user - imagine that.
I.e. doomed to failure.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:37:21 -0500, j m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No it's not rocket science, but it does need a little intervention on
the part of the user - imagine that.
On Wed,
Basically that's my opinion.
For the record I do NOT believe the lawsuit should succeed, but I do
believe that defaulting to no-911 is a bad decision.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:51:12 -0800, Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OTOH, a default 'best guess' by Vonage is better than nothing.
Both sides have a point;
In a sue happy nation it makes sense to lawyer-up before launching a product
and envision all scenarios. Then come up with a product that has warning
labels on it and backup methods for laymen not paying attention. (E.g. this
side up, do not put a cup in this CD Tray
Allow coffee to cool before applying to groin
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:55:34 -0500, 007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both sides have a point;
In a sue happy nation it makes sense to lawyer-up before launching a product
and envision all scenarios. Then come up with a product that has warning
At 01:37 PM 23/03/2005, j m g wrote:
No it's not rocket science, but it does need a little intervention on
the part of the user - imagine that.
May I point out that these lamers managed to live for years without
911. They actually wrote down the police number and put it beside the
phone. Wildly
At 01:51 PM 23/03/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
OTOH, a default 'best guess' by Vonage is better than nothing.
After all, we're talking about saving people's lives.
Unless the 911 call goes to the wrong location and someone else doesn't get
police/fire/ambulance support because they are being
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
I'll bet if 208.20.76.243 hacked into the DOD, they would get located.
In real time?
Christopher Fisk
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MY BUTT DOES NOT DESERVE A WEBSITE
MY BUTT DOES NOT DESERVE A WEBSITE
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 3G04
Closer then you'd think. We've had people hack into (try) corporates here
in KC, and they were tracked within 1/2 hour or less. If you've got the
money to throw at it, and you have the right connections with the right
tier1 providers, it can be done.
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From: [EMAIL
Thane Sherrington wrote:
At 01:51 PM 23/03/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
OTOH, a default 'best guess' by Vonage is better than nothing.
After all, we're talking about saving people's lives.
Unless the 911 call goes to the wrong location and someone else doesn't
get police/fire/ambulance support
OTOH, a default 'best guess' by Vonage is better than nothing.
After all, we're talking about saving people's lives.
Unless the 911 call goes to the wrong location and someone else doesn't get
police/fire/ambulance support because they are being wasted looking for a
call that has been misrouted.
that is about right for TMPGEnc enable a couple of filters and you
could be looking at 12 hours!
At 10:37 PM 3/22/2005, you wrote:
Just wondering what how long it generally takes for others to convert
avi's to SVCD?
Currently I'm converting a BBC series Wild Weather into SVCD compliant
How difficult would it be for someone to take responsibility for their
own safety and not leave it in someone else's
never mind.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:32:26 -0800, Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Come on, the users are told they need
to enter this information, they are told
And so many people are now 24/7 that they can't freaking leave their cell phone
at home in the theaters.. the world would end if they were out of touch for 2
hours!!
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From: Carroll Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:26:08 -0600
To: The Hardware List
If I have an AVI file, how do I convert it into something that will burn as
a DVD?
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It would be impossible. The requirement to force disclosure of location is
against the law under telemarketing rules in 12 states. So they would have to
customize their software to appreciate that based on the state it was in..
almost impossible to do, considering they wouldn't know until
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:12:23 -0500 (EST), Christopher Fisk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
I'll bet if 208.20.76.243 hacked into the DOD, they would get located.
In real time?
Try it and see ;-)
I've taken tons of DiVX, AVI etc. converted straight to DVD with good fortune
with NeroVisions3. No hitch at all; and beautiful for the HDTV captures :)
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From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:33:24 -0600
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
So force disclosure of preferred 911 area.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:56:18 -0600, CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be impossible. The requirement to force disclosure of location is
against the law under telemarketing rules in 12 states. So they would have
to customize their software to
Probably could be/should be done, however, if the company does make the effort
to inform users that they need to do this anyway, forcing it is a mixed bag
(realize, there are still areas of the US where 911 does not exist.. example:
my parents live in such an area.. )
CW
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At 01:57 PM 3/23/2005, CW typed:
I've taken tons of DiVX, AVI etc. converted straight to DVD with good
fortune with NeroVisions3. No hitch at all; and beautiful for the HDTV
captures :)
If that doesn't work then you can try WinAVI which does a decent job.
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Wayne D.
So vonage should default to potentially incorrect information for
emergency response - I don't see the point. This makes you safer?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:01:21 -0500, Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:43 PM 3/23/2005, j m g typed:
How difficult would it be for someone to take
At 02:01 PM 3/23/2005, CW typed:
there are still areas of the US where 911 does not exist.. example: my
parents live in such an area..
But because they don't I assume they know the local police, fire hosp
numbers or at least program them into their phone(s).
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
So force disclosure of preferred 911 area.
This is a good idea, and will probably end up being done just because it
makes sense, but does that mean this couple who didn't specify their 911
calling area should get $20,000 from Vonage?
I guess I'm from
Is it so hard to imaging yourself trapped in an emergency - with
someone else's Vonage phone?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:09:44 -0500, j m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So vonage should default to potentially incorrect information for
emergency response - I don't see the point. This makes you safer?
Texas is suing, not the couple.
Specifically Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott.
He should lose, IMHO, but a 'default 911 area' should go in.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:13:56 -0500 (EST), Christopher Fisk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
So force
At 02:09 PM 3/23/2005, j m g typed:
So vonage should default to potentially incorrect information for
emergency response - I don't see the point. This makes you safer?
Yes, as something is better than nothing besides 911 people ask for your
location when you make a call to them [unless they know
Is 911 a right or a privilege?
At 02:13 PM 3/23/2005, Christopher Fisk typed:
This is a good idea, and will probably end up being done just because it
makes sense, but does that mean this couple who didn't specify their 911
calling area should get $20,000 from Vonage?
I guess I'm from the survival of the fittest mindset. If
When I signed up for cell phone service, they wanted both a
billing address and a residence address. I don't see how asking
for that information would be against the law.
Gary VanderMolen
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It would be impossible. The requirement to force disclosure of location is
Wayne Johnson wrote:
At 01:57 PM 3/23/2005, CW typed:
I've taken tons of DiVX, AVI etc. converted straight to DVD with good
fortune with NeroVisions3. No hitch at all; and beautiful for the
HDTV captures :)
If that doesn't work then you can try WinAVI which does a decent job.
Local hospital is 22 miles away.
Local Police Dept. is 14 miles away.
But yes, they have the #s. I'm just saying, a requirement to place someone
with 911 may place them with the wrong one (the nearest 911 to them is about an
hour away, so what a mess that would be)
CW
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At 02:21 PM 3/23/2005, G.Waleed Kavalec typed:
Texas is suing, not the couple.
Specifically Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott.
He should lose, IMHO, but a 'default 911 area' should go in.
If that happens then doesn't everybody win then the suit would have to be
deemed effective? Much better
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
And you're going to tell 375lb Bubba this ? What are we suppose to do when
Bubba thinks he's a genius ? The point is many people can't help that they
are stupid some lazy people can't either. We have many senior citizens that
never graduated
But they didn't offer you a service over someone else's means (internet or
pre-existing connection). They were offering you a new service which isn't
dependant on a third party.. Vonage is dependant on your broadband connection.
Several states have rules in place designed to control what you
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:21 GMT
Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I have an AVI file, how do I convert it into something that will burn as
a DVD?
How about NeroVision Express?? Very simple!!
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Mess? Those 911 folks would know how to route the call.
911 is not necessarily allways called by coherent adults, in case you
were unaware.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:31:59 -0600, CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Local hospital is 22 miles away.
Local Police Dept. is 14 miles away.
But yes, they
Trust me, there are things called a mess.
Let's say my sister gets 9-11.
So you have an emergency?
Yes, we have XYZ emergency.
OK, where do you live?
Ok, we're about a mile and a half off of HWY57
Is there a street address?
No, we don't have street addresses.. we are not far from Rural Water
Christopher Fisk wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
And you're going to tell 375lb Bubba this ? What are we suppose to do
when Bubba thinks he's a genius ? The point is many people can't help
that they are stupid some lazy people can't either. We have many
senior citizens that
At 02:35 PM 3/23/2005, Christopher Fisk typed:
Where does it end?
It seems to me that you have some things confused. One may be life or death
while the other is not altho you may feel like dying if you forgot the heat
sink that doesn't count. If life or death situations are no one else's
I did not mean to imply that it wasn't, in fact for reliable MPGs I
use TmpgEnc for creating my DVDs, however if I'm just watching a TV
show or something then I'll go w/ winAVI where i'm not tooo concerned
w/ quality.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:44:41 -0800, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CW wrote:
Trust me, there are things called a mess.
Let's say my sister gets 9-11.
So you have an emergency?
Yes, we have XYZ emergency.
OK, where do you live?
Ok, we're about a mile and a half off of HWY57
Is there a street address?
No, we don't have street addresses.. we are not far from
Let's try this one:
My daddy fell off the ladder. I can't wake him up.
Should this 6 year old be talking to the wrong 911 or to some
recording telling him he doesn't have 911?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:46:33 -0600, CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trust me, there are things called a mess.
Let's
Good news
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7274437/
007
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
At 02:35 PM 3/23/2005, Christopher Fisk typed:
Where does it end?
It seems to me that you have some things confused. One may be life or death
while the other is not altho you may feel like dying if you forgot the heat
sink that doesn't count. If life or
At 02:41 PM 3/23/2005, G.Waleed Kavalec typed:
911 is not necessarily allways called by coherent adults, in case you
were unaware.
Great point. How's the kid suppose to know if mommy /or daddy didn't sign
up for 911 service ?
IMHO if 911 service is available in their location then it should be
At 02:49 PM 3/23/2005, Carroll Kong typed:
My teacher suggested to use the local police station numbers instead since
it can be much faster and more reliable.
you expect a 6yr old to remember in a panic situation any thing besides
911 ? IMHO that teacher ought to be fired unless they were
I'm not arguing that vonage should/shouldn't have 911 calls patched.
I'm saying that since their phones/services can be used anywhere the
customer should have the onus to set the freakin thing up correctly.
If the power's out and your broadband connection is dead who are you
going to blame?
Wayne Johnson wrote:
At 02:49 PM 3/23/2005, Carroll Kong typed:
My teacher suggested to use the local police station numbers instead
since it can be much faster and more reliable.
you expect a 6yr old to remember in a panic situation any thing
besides 911 ? IMHO that teacher ought to be fired
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
FWIW in every other situation I would agree.
At 02:49 PM 3/23/2005, Christopher Fisk typed:
It's Fords fault you didn't wear a seatbelt.
To a point it is. Why do they put those annoying buzzers in that go off
every couple of minutes if they didn't feel
What about the GPS thing I mentioned?
1) locates the user in an instant, can route the 911 call approriately.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:07:17 -0500, Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
FWIW in every other situation I would agree.
At 02:49 PM
I think that Texas winning the lawsuit would invoke Vonage to do
something about it, such as spending the money to incorporate a GPS
unit within the phone that is auto-activated during 911 calls.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:09:18 -0600, G.Waleed Kavalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many times do I
Francisco Tapia wrote:
What about the GPS thing I mentioned?
1) locates the user in an instant, can route the 911 call approriately.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:07:17 -0500, Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
FWIW in every other situation I would agree.
At
Francisco Tapia wrote:
I think that Texas winning the lawsuit would invoke Vonage to do
something about it, such as spending the money to incorporate a GPS
unit within the phone that is auto-activated during 911 calls.
Oh, if it only activates during 911, then sounds like a good idea.
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At 03:04 PM 3/23/2005, Christopher Fisk typed:
I believe my response to Wayne answers this. Is it the car makers fault
that you don't buckle that seatbelt in a car accident?
Think about the cars that have the auto shoulder belt. They say they are
a liability if you don't also belt the manual
At 03:15 PM 3/23/2005, Carroll Kong typed:
Oh, if it only activates during 911, then sounds like a good idea.
My cell phone has GPS I can set it to work only with 911 calls or not so
why can't Vonage do something similar ?
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Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
I agree with this concept. The lawsuit is a joke; good corporate thought would
have this as something they could opt out of or do.
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From: G.Waleed Kavalec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:09:18 -0600
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject:
Only drawback is that it would double the price of the Vonage adapter.
For mobile cellphones GPS makes sense, but not many people will be
carrying their Vonage adapter around with them.
Gary VanderMolen
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What about the GPS thing I mentioned?
1) locates the user in an
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
That's a good compromise, but how can a judge force Vonage
to implement a default 911 if the plaintiff loses the suit?
Best scenario is for Vonage to lose the suit, be fined $1.00
and ordered to implement a default 911 routing. That
would be a win-win.
Unfortunately it is not always the person making the omission who suffers.
How will you explain to a 14-year-old girl, babysitting at someone else's house,
why 911 failed to work while some pervert was breaking down the back door?
Gary VanderMolen
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*shrug* as someone
Unfortunately it is not always the person making the omission who suffers.
How will you explain to a 14-year-old girl, babysitting at someone else's
house,
why 911 failed to work while some pervert was breaking down the back door?
I will point at the homeowner and say They didn't spend the 5
Would make it easier for the girl to sue the homeowner if that happened.
BTW, if someone breaks into the house and does the raping murdering, I
think the primary person to blame isn't vonage or the lack of 911, rather,
it's probably the murderer.
Even if she could get on the horn with 9-11, do
This is very true, however for people who move it makes it so that
they do not have to re-set their location.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:29:14 -0800, Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only drawback is that it would double the price of the Vonage adapter.
For mobile cellphones GPS makes
Not all existing cell phones have GPS and GPS might not work from the
location where the modem is setup.
Cell phone are not a convenience for over 10 years now here in the US.
There is no perfect solution, too many laws jurisdictions, too many
idiots. Don't change from the established, proven,
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