Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(

not the greatest but I am using this to monitor temps and speeds, cool and quiet controls voltages and fans but I prefer my fans quiet and full speed. Just found one called Silenz, the 120x38 moves 90cfm @ 18dba. :{) Asus sw does log over temps and fan under speeds which is all I'm after.

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Thane, OK, I completely misunderstood your point until this addition. My apologies completely. And, I suppose I never did understand the full background of Winterlight's original share. Again, my bad. As, this seems to maybe now focused on X64, it is possible that much of this kerfuffle is

Re: [H] That's got to sting

LOL. If you remember, though, I was never all that interested in keeping up with the absolute bleeding edge hardware choices. I was never a gamer, so my needs are probably more mainstream than a lot of other people on the list. I've worked on laptops exclusively since 2000 or so. By default

Re: [H] That's got to sting

I think Win2k has been end-of-lifed for a while now. I know that during the last timezone change, MS released patches for XP and up and people were forced to write unofficial patches for 2k. You'd probably like OSX. It's simple on the UI side, but if you want to tinker, there's a whole BSD

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Ben, Thanks, and, mostly I follow your comments and JoeUser's to get an idea of things MAC. Now that Steine seems to be dabbling, I have another viewpoint. Not certain that W2K is totally EOL yet; I still get WinUpdates each month. Yes, I now longer have dreams of one last SP5 for Win2K. When

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Duncan: Mac OSX is built on top of BSD. It's the closest you can get to a really well polished desktop *NIX experience. Ubuntu follows a close second. The nice thing about Mac hardware is that it's largely compatible with newer versions of OSX. There are people who have 10+ year old PowerPC

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Gotta love OSX. I brought this thing home, plugged it and the mouse/ KB in, fired it up, and 10 minutes later it was configured and downloading my Email for me. :) Everything just works should be their motto... Just rebuilt a PC last weekend with XP SP2, including the 127 updates and

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Ditto, been using it for 5 years now and love it. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:28:02AM -0700, John Steinbruner wrote: Gotta love OSX. I brought this thing home, plugged it and the mouse/KB in, fired it up, and 10 minutes later it was configured and downloading my Email for me. :)

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Well, to be fair, when I did my first Leopard update, it was a ~500MB update. But that also included iTunes, Quicktime, etc. updates. My only complaint with OSX is the built in keyboard on my MacBook. It's missing home, end, page up, page down, and insert. When connected to an external

Re: [H] That's got to sting

You are right. :) But I am still amazed that when I first turned it on, and told it my email addie and password during setup, and it auto-configured itself and started downloading my email in such a short amount of time. Over wireless to boot, and Pacbell.net does not use the standard

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Hello Bryan, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 12:33:28 PM, you wrote: Ditto, been using it for 5 years now and love it. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:28:02AM -0700, John Steinbruner wrote: Gotta love OSX. I brought this thing home, plugged it and the mouse/KB in, fired it up, and 10 minutes later

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Ben, Fully understand this from previous threads. I was really focused at a pure BSD/*nix kind of choice. My bad. I still have much to remember; and learn. Yes, I have several old friends (not on our list) that still use a vast array of older MAC platforms, and, oddly, we still converse

Re: [H] That's got to sting

probably enough throw away stuff from this list to keep you at least a *bottom feeder* like me :-} fp At 10:40 AM 6/28/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Mostly likely, I will go MAC. I am not concerned about hdw cost. I will buy as much as I can afford and then run it fully to failure. I

Re: [H] That's got to sting

OSX does not do updates ? fp At 11:28 AM 6/28/2008, John Steinbruner Poked the stick with: Gotta love OSX. I brought this thing home, plugged it and the mouse/ KB in, fired it up, and 10 minutes later it was configured and downloading my Email for me. :) Everything just works should be

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Sure it does, but mine came with a fairly recent copy of OSX, 10.5.2, so I have not needed many updates yet. :) On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:21 PM, FORC5 wrote: OSX does not do updates ? fp At 11:28 AM 6/28/2008, John Steinbruner Poked the stick with: Gotta love OSX. I brought this thing home,

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Forc5, I seriously doubt that you own that bottom-feeder label. I suspect that there a few more members of this club. I do not mind. My antique stuff just works for what I need it to do. And I still enjoy Half-Life, Quake III, Unreal, Serious Sam, Tomb Raider and MS Flight Sim. I just put up

[H] Fwd: XP Locked at 640x480

Never mind, something I did fixed it. Tried different video drivers, no luck. Tried uninstall/reinstall, no luck. Tried install of latest MB drivers, acted strange as it disappeared right out of initializing install shield. Rebooted and now it's working, very strange. Steve --

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Everything just works should be their motto... Until it doesn't and frakk all if you know why Until we move on drop legacy support Unless you want to choose your own hardware LOL, I see a real frakked future repeating the mistakes of the True Blue IBM PC days if we keep drinking Jobs'

Re: [H] That's got to sting

Oh, I know, and all my copies of XP are slipstreamed, but this was a re-install on a Presario from the image on the D:\ hidden partition, so I had to start with XP SP2. :) No OS is perfect, but I guess my only real point is that I am surprised by how little I miss XP and Vista for normal

[H] Vista 64

Is Vista 64 on all Retail DVDs, or is a separate purchase? If it is on the same DVD does it give you a choice when you start to install?

Re: [H] Vista 64

X86 and x64 editions are on separate discs. With Retail non-Ultimate versions, for a small SH fee, you can request the other media from what you bought (ie: if you bought Business x86, you can get Business x64--they use the same keys). Ultimate edition retail box has both x86 and x64 DVDs. Order

Re: [H] Vista 64

Thanks Greg. At 07:31 PM 6/28/2008, you wrote: X86 and x64 editions are on separate discs. With Retail non-Ultimate versions, for a small SH fee, you can request the other media from what you bought (ie: if you bought Business x86, you can get Business x64--they use the same keys). Ultimate