Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-07 Thread j maccraw
I'm not talking about the bootstrap loader settings NVRAM, I am talking about the code to run the configuration interface FOR the BIOS. Choice of boot device happens w/o the software via the hardware BIOS reset jumper, but no further control over settings w/o the hidden partition's program.

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-06 Thread Gary VanderMolen
I removed the hidden partition on my son's Compaq laptop without any ill effects. I do all partition work with BootIt NG. It doesn't make sense to put BIOS code on the HD because a PC needs to be able to start the boot process from the BIOS even when the HD is defective, or in case you want to

[H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-05 Thread Robert Turnbull
Winterlight, I have dug up some old notes that I made relating to laptop repair which includes some notes on the Compaq hidden partition and formatting the hard drive. I will be happy to send a copy to you (and any other list member) if you will send me your home email address. Best

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-05 Thread Winterlight
Thanks, just send it to this email address, I own the domain, it should be able to handle it. If it is too big then let me know and I will put up a FTP site. Actually I solved the problem of the hidden partition. I used Acronis Disk Director to add my back up partition and it gave me no

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-04 Thread j maccraw
The CD's we get with systems, maybe I've not looked to see what OEM crap is chained into the Dell XP CD's I have. I also assumed Dell send techs out with a customized Windows install or SysPrep'd image. There are also at least 2 kinds of Dell XP OEM CD's, normal ones that need keys and VLK

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-04 Thread Ben Ruset
Every single Dell system I have worked on from the Win2k days on up (NT4 based machines shipped with a Microsoft branded NT4 OEM CD) have come with a VLK cd. Also, depending on when you bought the machine, it will have SP2 or not. I'm staring at a Dell OEM recovery disc with SP2 right now. j

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-04 Thread FORC5
last one I got did slip stream just fine, had to do a restore and the original was sp1 so I figured WTF, nLite worked fine on it and it installed swell. Only xp home though fp At 03:24 AM 6/4/2007, j maccraw Poked the stick with: There are also at least 2 kinds of Dell XP OEM CD's, normal ones

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-04 Thread j maccraw
My typo, it's XP Pro gold that can't be slipstreamed. Know bug posted all over. FORC5 wrote: last one I got did slip stream just fine, had to do a restore and the original was sp1 so I figured WTF, nLite worked fine on it and it installed swell. Only xp home though fp At 03:24 AM

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread j maccraw
Stay away from PM8, it's has so many bugs it is not funny! Burnt me too many times in past 2 years after loyally using for a long time. These days I use Acronis Disk Director. All partitions should be byte for byte copyable with True Image and the MBR partition tables are standard no matter

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread j maccraw
Their BIOS setup is on that partition IIRC. Loose it and loose access to the BIOS setup. Winterlight wrote: I don't care about the utilities, but the BIOS? If that is true then you can't just upgrade a hard drive on Compaq's with a simple clean install... you would have to restore the

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition That is assuming, of course, that Ghost won't freak out with the crazy partition. I do not want

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread j maccraw
@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition That is assuming, of course, that Ghost won't freak out with the crazy partition. I do not want to sound like a know it all here but it would be a disservice to not inform y'all that I have 10 years

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Ruset
j maccraw wrote: As for the Dell guy, all they would do is use the Dell restore CD to revert it back to shipping state or they would ship the unit back to Dell if it needed more than could be swapped on site. Compaq of course would say ship it back or buy a new PC. FYI, Dell restore CD's

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition partition on some models (maybe only circa 2000, haven't worked on a new one

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-02 Thread Winterlight
Thanks for all the help and comments. I was finally able to work with the drive using Acronis Disk Manager. Once I was able to create a Backup partition I was then able to create a drive image backup without error. Just for a test, I unplugged the hard drive and attempted to boot off my flash

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Ben Ruset
I may be mistaken, but I think the Compaq partition actually has all of the code for the BIOS or some utilities on it. You may not want to get rid of it. Winterlight wrote: I am working on Compaq EVO. It has a 40GB DiamondMax hard drive and is formatted as a single NTFS Primary Active

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Winterlight
I don't care about the utilities, but the BIOS? If that is true then you can't just upgrade a hard drive on Compaq's with a simple clean install... you would have to restore the hidden BIOS section first surely that can't be the way they set their systems up. At 08:19 AM 6/1/2007, you

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Winterlight
At 09:22 AM 6/1/2007, you wrote: At 12:43 PM 01/06/2007, Winterlight wrote: I've never had that been the case. Sometimes the recovery CDs won't work without the hidden partition, but I've never had one refuse to go into the BIOS once I replaced the HD. T The recovery CD isn't available, so

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:43 PM 01/06/2007, Winterlight wrote: I don't care about the utilities, but the BIOS? If that is true then you can't just upgrade a hard drive on Compaq's with a simple clean install... you would have to restore the hidden BIOS section first surely that can't be the way they set

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:32 PM 01/06/2007, Winterlight wrote: Do you know how to remove the hidden partition and just leave a normal hard drive, without wiping everything off the drive I can't image the single Primary partition with Drive Image 7, and I can't change anything with Partition Magic 7. Trying

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Winterlight
At 01:17 PM 6/1/2007, you wrote: At 15:52 06-01-2007, Thane Sherrington typed: I think diskpart will see it. Or you could boot with an Ubuntu Live CD and use gparted. Acronis DD [disk director] will let you merge the partitions with data intact if you want then even Windows should see it.

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Winterlight wrote: At 09:22 AM 6/1/2007, you wrote: The recovery CD isn't available, so that is not an issue. Do you know how to remove the hidden partition and just leave a normal hard drive, without wiping everything off the drive I can't image the single Primary

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Winterlight
I've heard that the systemboard bios on some of those machines will completely hide the diagnostic partition from being seen no matter what OS you use. Best bet is to move the drive to another system (preferably a whitebox, or at least a non-compaq) and clear out the Partition Table, MBR

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Winterlight
This will overwrite the first 50 MB of the drive with zero's, wiping out any partitions, the MBR, and the first 50MB of the drive (which is generally where the beginning of the diagnostic partition is) Then proceed as normal. Christopher Fisk Seagate's free Powertools will do that ... but

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Winterlight wrote: This will overwrite the first 50 MB of the drive with zero's, wiping out any partitions, the MBR, and the first 50MB of the drive (which is generally where the beginning of the diagnostic partition is) Then proceed as normal. Christopher Fisk

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Al Anger
Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you would have to just reinstall windows from scratch. My method is completely data-destructive. Or if you have a DOS Boot Disk with debug on it: http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=174 al

Re: [H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-06-01 Thread Ben Ruset
Anyway, getting back to solving your question at hand: I wonder if Ghost will let you dump the partition to a file. Then you can look on Compaq's site and see if there are utilities for creating the Compaq hidden partition. Blow away the drive, remake the hidden partition, make your

[H] Compaq hidden partition

2007-05-31 Thread Winterlight
I am working on Compaq EVO. It has a 40GB DiamondMax hard drive and is formatted as a single NTFS Primary Active partition. No other partition is showing. However I suspect there is a small Compaq hidden partition. Using Partition Magic 8 I can not resize and add any partitions. I want to