Well 32bit I dunno as none of my x32 boxes have more than 2GB. Process Explorer lists
4,192,372 here on Win7 x64.
They adjusted the reported amount for x32 but it was a minor 3GB fractional amount
not to report fake full 4GB.
On 5/12/2010 12:36 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote:
Incorrect unfortuna
On Wed, 12 May 2010, Bino Gopal wrote:
Well thought I'd share my results as a data point:
Got a Lenovo (aka IBM) T61 laptop from circa late 2007. It's the Santa
Rosa mobile platform, specifically an Intel Core 2 Duo Merom 2nd gen
processor (T7500 @ 2.2Ghz). I don't know what the exact chi
15:51:37 -0700
> From: maccr...@gmail.com
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
>
> Differing amounts of "memory hole" from differing configurations would be my
> guess
> before blaming a bug.
>
> Agreed, with driver s
On Sat, 1 May 2010, maccrawj wrote:
Differing amounts of "memory hole" from differing configurations would be my
guess before blaming a bug.
This.
4GB of memory is the max you can have between anything.
Got an oldass video card that uses only 32MB of memory? You'll have more
usable main me
Differing amounts of "memory hole" from differing configurations would be my guess
before blaming a bug.
Agreed, with driver support (on new devices at least) finally happening there is no
reason to use x32.
On 5/1/2010 3:16 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
Seems to be a bug or a chipset thing if it's
Good info in that link except the PDF for "memory hole" is very dated (2004) only
hinting at what is now the norm:
"Work is being done by the BIOS and/or chip manufacturers that will either remap
physical memory or move device address space in order to eliminate the hole. This
memory hole may
Seems to be a bug or a chipset thing if it's different on different systems,
all with 4G of ram.
Either way there's no reason to not use a 64 bit os in 2010.
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 10:43:14AM -0700, maccrawj wrote:
> Sorry, your point/counterpoint is? Think I'm missing something here.
>
>
> On
is a whole 'nother reason and definitely worth doing
it for that! ;)
BINO
From: bh...@sc.rr.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:32:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
It maps into the address space of whatever the 64-bit address space is (8
terab
ssage-
From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 06:28:26 -0700
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
> Well no, I've seen systems with 4G of memory show:
>
> 2.5G
> 2.8G
> 3.5G
>
> with /PAE
>
> :)
>
&g
Sorry, your point/counterpoint is? Think I'm missing something here.
On 5/1/2010 7:28 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
Well no, I've seen systems with 4G of memory show:
2.5G
2.8G
3.5G
with /PAE
:)
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 12:30:54AM -0700, maccrawj wrote:
Not a bug, that's the Microsoft artificial m
Well no, I've seen systems with 4G of memory show:
2.5G
2.8G
3.5G
with /PAE
:)
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 12:30:54AM -0700, maccrawj wrote:
> Not a bug, that's the Microsoft artificial memory map limit on 32bit OS to
> (ostensibly) prevent driver issues caused by brain dead drivers writing to
>
Not a bug, that's the Microsoft artificial memory map limit on 32bit OS to
(ostensibly) prevent driver issues caused by brain dead drivers writing to 64bit
addresses as if they were 32bit which is also why x64 is so draconian about signed
drivers! In other words despite PAE MS prevents working o
Not as long as your BIOS has a hardware address space remap option that moves it
above the installed memory. Without BIOS support to remap your assertion would be true.
I have an Asus Rampage, X48 chipset which does this. I have also seen older 64bit
laptops that DO NOT have the BIOS option (To
] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:56 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
>
> Well, it does sort of sound like that. I have Win 7 ultimate with 6GB
RAM.
> When I right-click on My Computer and select properties, it
; > I
> > have about 2.89GB RAM.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> > [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:49 PM
> >
nt: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
>
>
> But from the MS article:
>
>
>
> Note When the physical RAM that is installed on a computer equals the
> address space that is supported by the ch
-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:49 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
But from the MS article:
Note When the physical RAM that is installed on a computer
itely worth doing
it for that! ;)
BINO
> From: bh...@sc.rr.com
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:32:12 -0400
> Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
>
> It maps into the address space of whatever the 64-bit address space is (8
> terabytes or s
64 bit will work.
On Apr 30, 2010 9:17 PM, "GPL" wrote:
Not to sound like a NOOB, but here goes. I'm looking at the i7 930 and
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R specs page and am either missing it or it is
assumed you can run 64 bit OS on them. Is it called something else?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM,
Not to sound like a NOOB, but here goes. I'm looking at the i7 930 and
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R specs page and am either missing it or it is
assumed you can run 64 bit OS on them. Is it called something else?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
> Indeed you need a compatible CPU/Mobo
Indeed you need a compatible CPU/Mobo (mostly CPU matters here) and you might
run into hardware that doesn't have 64 bit drivers as well.
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 08:41:41AM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
> Oh yes...some processors can't run 64-bit...if you run the Win7 upgrade
> adviser, it will
Oh yes...some processors can't run 64-bit...if you run the Win7 upgrade
adviser, it will tell you if your system can handle 64bit or not. I
have had some of my old hardware become obsolete after going
64-bitin my case, it was my scanner.
On 4/30/2010 8:32 AM, GPL wrote:
When talking abou
When talking about 64 bit OS, does it matter what hardware you have in
a PC? Meaning, do you need to have compatible motherboard, etc or is
it strictly an OS this?
If you have 1GB video card it helps a lot moving it above the actual RAM address
space. There are other devices that would also otherwise map onto the 4GB space.
4GB RAM + 512MB video + misc hardware would yield me about 3.25GB under x32 where I
get fill 4.0GB on x64.
On 4/29/2010 7:32 PM, Bo
ginal Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Gary VanderMolen
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:09 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
So what will they map into instead? As far as I know, the
So what will they map into instead? As far as I know, the video has to map into
RAM,
regardless if the OS is 32-bit or 64-bit.
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Heid
IIRC, the BIOS and video RAM will not have to map into the 4GB address space
(in
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 03:24:30PM -0700, Bino Gopal wrote:
>
> Hey guys, we have a site volume license for Windows-I might not be being
> precise about this as I'm not sure, but I work at Citrix Systems, Inc. and
> we're a pretty close Microsoft partner and so get licenses for a lot of MS
> so
: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:23 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
Since the OP only has 4.0GB, how will that help him?
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
-Original Message-
Go for 64bit and use all memory.no reason not to.
Since the OP only has 4.0GB, how will that help him?
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
-Original Message-
Go for 64bit and use all memory.no reason not to.
e all memory.no reason not to.
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:25 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
Hey guys, we
Go for 64bit and use all memory.no reason not to.
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:25 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subjec
Hey guys, we have a site volume license for Windows-I might not be being
precise about this as I'm not sure, but I work at Citrix Systems, Inc. and
we're a pretty close Microsoft partner and so get licenses for a lot of MS
software so I think that's what it is (in case it matters). For example
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