On 14/05/12 17:28 Luke Kanies wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
[Snip!]
But Puppet is special in that it's intended to be a *descriptive* language.
So you describe how your servers are to be configured.
Sounds nice, except... it has side effects. Which makes
Well, while we're ranting about stupid language design desisions...
I would like to dish out a special platter of hate for Puppet.
Well, not a programming language per se.
But Puppet is special in that it's intended to be a *descriptive* language.
So you describe how your servers are to be
A Google search for mysql hate returns 1,820,000 pages.
On 07/02/08 20:37 Chris Devers wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Jeremy Stephens wrote:
I fucking hate the MS Access upsizing wizard.
^
Surely this sentence goes two words longer than necessary.
Make that three.
On 28/01/2008, Peter da Silva pe...@taronga.com wrote:
On 2008-01-28, at 05:39, Nicholas Clark wrote:
You're a Unix filter command. You should ALWAYS be writing to stdout.
And reading from stdin.
Anything else would be hateful and broken and counterintuitive.
The worst I've seen is a
On 21/01/08 09:15 Peter da Silva wrote:
Anyone else pissed that Google did that with Google Video when they
bought Youtube?
No. YouTube worked better than Google Video.
I am pissed that Google Video only searches YouTube, and not the myriad
other video sites. But that probably is outside
On 20/01/08 01:57 Juerd Waalboer wrote:
Ugly Software,
If I actively ignored your splash screen by clicking another window,
Splash screens are hateful.
I was about to say a better alternative to say an app is loading and
initialising is some kind of indicator in a corner panel, but then I
On 18/01/08 00:50 Martin Ebourne wrote:
Sites really shouldn't try to validate this stuff. The most annoying one
of course is the very common mandatory county (as already mentioned on
this thread). At least 7 million people live in London so over 10% of
the population has no county, not to
My current gripe is with Gnumeric, but the same hate can be lobbed at most
spreadsheets and word processors.
I open a file in a non-native format (such as a CSV), make some changes, and
save. The first choice is to save as the native format.
If I wanted to save as another format, I'd use
On 14/01/08 22:18 Phil Pennock quoted:
i talked to the author of CPAN.pm and he agrees that i did it right by
not quoting the version number.
the real problem is that the version number on Parse::RecDescent went
down!
from 1.80 (which translates into 1.800.000) to 1.95.1 (which translates
into
On 13/01/08 05:24 Phil Pennock wrote:
Step 1: install X500::DN.
Step 2: test it
$ perl
use X500::DN;
Parse::RecDescent version 1.8 required--this is only version 1.95.1
Somewhere I recall *strong* advice to the affect that if one uses either
numeric versions (e.g. 1.23) that one should not
On 14/01/08 11:29 H.Merijn Brand wrote:
For those that use Cygwin, have you ever counted the mouse-clicks you
need to make a healthy update? HATE!
Yes. And I decided it was easier to install Linux.
On 14/01/08 01:17 Peter da Silva wrote:
If 1.23 is treated differently from 1.23.0 that's just stupid. Oh,
and hateful.
Is 1.23.0 equivalent to 1.23 or 1.023 (since the middle part might be
three digits)?
I think the problem cited by the original post is that 1.95.1 is treated as
On 13/01/08 13:32 Juerd Waalboer wrote:
Ah, but that's easily solved with a changelog entry:
version 20080113- No bugs, no fixes. Version bump to please your PHB.
If your PHB is paying that much attention to version numbers of Perl
modules, you're screwed.
On 07/01/08 21:53 Peter da Silva wrote:
On 2008-01-07, at 13:49, Jeremy Stephens wrote:
Why is the UPDATE syntax so different from INSERT?
Because the people designing SQL were devotees of the English-Likeness
Monster. ...
When I'm generating SQL I just maintain a list of columns and
On 08/01/08 16:46 Peter da Silva wrote:
On 2008-01-08, at 10:33, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
The irony is wonderful!
You'll have to elaborate.
The English-Likeness monster doesn't live in keywords, it lives in
syntax and semantics.
You left our the part I quoted:
On 07/01/08 21:53 Peter da
Turns out there's a couple of *nix packages for detecting what network you
are in and configuring your system appropriately.
One of them is whereami. A few brief bits of hate to hurl it after
spending a few hours trying to get it to work (unsuccessfully):
- It has its very own scripting
On 19/12/07 20:01 Peter da Silva wrote:
I think any time SQL is involved in a hate, you need to hate the people
who designed SQL for trying to make it user-friendly and english-like
instead of defining a statement syntax that clearly distinguished
components of a statement and sticking to it.
While I'm on a roll, why not throw some hate at F-Spot.
Most of my photos have the date taken stored with other metadata as part of
the file. F-Spot seems to ignore this and uses something else to decide that
the photo was taken on January 1, 1980. It's certainly not the file date,
because that
On 14/12/07 01:57 Zach White wrote:
When it's a GET, of course!
Read the HTTP/1.1 protocol. The only difference between the two methods is
that POST is intended for submitting supplementary data with it:
9.5 POST
The POST method is used to request that the origin server accept the
I'm writing up a thesis that makes references to Łukasiewicz logic and of
course cites articles written by Łukasiewicz.
BibTeX knows how to sort citations by author name: ..., L, Ł, M,...
makeindex does not know how to handle non-ASCII characters. It sorts like
this: Ł, A, B, C,...
So I have to
So riddle me this: Google publishers all calendars using a secret URL like
http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/user/random-string/basic.ics
I set up programs on different machines to subscribe to this calendar.
Since it's a private calendar, why not keep it private by changing the
http in the
On 14/11/07 03:54 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Juerd Waalboer ju...@convolution.nl [2007-11-13 20:05]:
I'm posting this to the list just to annoy people who are
against using hates-software for providing fixes ;)
Heh, well, I got a half-dozen off-list requests, so I figure
there's enough interest
Just a guss: maybe the hatefulness is better directed at certain Linux
distributions that do not yet make Thunderbird 2.0 available?
On 29/10/2007, Jody Belka lists-hates...@pimb.org wrote:
Are you using 2.0? Perhaps that bit of hatefulness has been fixed.
I am indeed, yes.
On 30/10/07 00:54 Gerry Lawrence wrote:
Take,for example, thunder-turds complete inability to handle attachments in
a sane fashion
You want fun. How about saving or deleting the attachments from a message
with 200+ attachments?
What annoys me about Thunderbird (and some other
On 29/10/07 22:25 demerphq wrote:
On 10/29/07, Robert Rothenberg rob...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a guss: maybe the hatefulness is better directed at certain Linux
distributions that do not yet make Thunderbird 2.0 available?
Like Ubuntu?
Hate.
I've not yet upgraded to Greasy Gibbon. (Won't
On 29/10/07 19:11 lists-hates...@pimb.org wrote:
Not that i'm defending Thunderbird too much, it is indeed a hateful bit of
software, but on my system it /does/ do the correct thing. This is wierd.
Are you using 2.0? Perhaps that bit of hatefulness has been fixed.
On 16/10/07 22:21 Peter da Silva wrote:
I find portable shell code easier to write and read than Perl.
^^^
Bash 3.1 or 3.2?
On 28/09/07 00:39 Nicholas Clark wrote:
[If necessary, think of Lotus Notes and pound your head into the keyboard a
few times. That should do the trick]
Isn't that redundant?
On 26/09/2007, Struan Donald str...@exo.org.uk wrote:
I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of
firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my
computer (or network but let's not run just yet).
Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow
On 30/08/07 16:22 Peter da Silva wrote:
(PPPS, Anyone here who likes RMS file types on VAX/VMS, have a bilabial
fricative)
Don't you mean linguolabial trill?
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilabial_fricative
I nearly forgot: those that seem to let all sorts of internet traffic
through but not VPN connections.
On 26/08/07, Cory Myers c...@panix.com wrote:
Also, hotspots (in this case, of the old-fashioned Ethernet variety)
which, for no apparent reason, reset SSH connections every few minutes.
I should add to the list of hateful things about these wifi hotspots:
* Sessions that time out our login after not using it for several minutes
(such as when you're in the midst of writing an e-mail). Extra bonus
hate for losing the long email you typed in a webmail interface.
Reminds me of when I tried sharing a calendar file between Mozilla Sunbird
and KOffice (both hateful bits of software).
It turns out that KOffice would adjust events added in Sunbird by one hour,
apparently due to some confusion about daylight vs standard time.
I recall finding it strange that
I've been (un)fortunate this summer to do a lot of travelling this summer.
Most places that I've stayed has some kind of hotspot login where any
attempt to visit a website goes to a special login screen and then redirects
you do the website once you've logged in.
The hate these things inspire are
Interesting. I'm not able to reproduce such hate on my system, gladly.
Is this a specific document, or just whenever Evince runs? It may be that
some fancy-pants PDF file has some embedded multimedia.
On 15/08/07, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Evince is a PDF viewer. Obviously no
Because 640K ought to be enough for anybody. [1]
I couldn't resist.
[1] http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates#Misattributed
Thunderbird sometimes asks me if I want to compact folders when I start it.
So I say Yes. It then pauses folder compaction and asks me for passwords to
download mail. If I enter passwords, it gives me an error that it cannot
download mail because the folder is locked by the compactor. So I have
On 13/06/07 11:45 Yossi Kreinin wrote:
It's a great test, but many people only write code when they get payed
for it, and in those situations they can't legitimately keep a private
copy of it and discuss it with potential employers
Surely the better candidates have written some code for
Converting the number to a floating point is an improvement. Often Excel
converts long numbers to dates!
It should be fairly simple using Perl (or Python or Ruby etc.) to generate
an Excel file (or convert a CSV to an Excel file) with the correct types,
and even some fancy formatting.
On
On 06/05/07 18:02 Tony Finch wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
Some distros have a hard time with you installing by compiling from the
source.
Obviously the distro should hook into CPAN so that when you install a
module it gets automatically turned into a package that can
On 05/05/07 07:53 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
I consider that a distro hate. If you build Perl from source,
then yes it is reasonable for CPAN.pm to ask a bunch of
questions. But if you're installing a package, then your vendor
should know a set of reasonable defaults to supply and should
damn well
On 01/05/07 21:03 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
I'll never understand why the people who use Module::Install,
which means including M::I with their distros, don't also simply
include all of their non-core testing modules. I mean, once you
start copying modules into your distro, it really makes no
On 21/04/07 04:21 Adam Atlas wrote:
The trick, of course, is to upgrade the day BEFORE it's released. That
way the servers aren't flooded yet.
No. I think it's best to wait until about a month after the release. Server
traffic is returned to normal, and there'll be updates that fixed problems
On 26/04/07 05:04 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Wow. So what new way of writing the following do they propose?
if [[ $string =~ ' foo ' ]] ; then ...
Apparently it's
if [[ $string =~ \ foo\ ]] ; then ...
which looks to my Perl-stained eyes like / foo/ (no trailing whitespace).
I have this ongoing problem with Google's spider as well.
The pages on some sites I maintain have dynamically inserted base href=...
elements (which is a nice trick to edit pages in a subdirectory of a test
machine and have all of the links work).
The pages also links to separate JavaScript
I'm not entirely sure which one of these to hate, so I think I'll spread it
evenly and hate both of them.
In Bash 3.2, the syntax of regular expressions were changed. So
if [[ $string =~ 'foo(.*)' ]] then ...
should become
if [[ $string =~ foo(.*) ]] then ...
You can imagine how many
On 22/04/07 00:57 jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote:
People running desktops are going to want to track a given level of
newness/unpleasantness. ...
No they don't. They want something that's pleasant to use. By pleasant I
mean something that's easy to use, easy on the eye, and does what you
I've never noticed, because most of the HTML e-mail I get is SPAM anyway.
On 21/04/07, Peter da Silva pe...@taronga.com wrote:
Even Apple -ing mail does this. If someone puts a link in an
HTML mail message, the only way to see where the link is going
before you get there is to copy the
I was a clone and decided to upgrade Ubuntu from Egregious Eft to Festering
Fawn. Sh'loads of hate
Like what that the upgrade manager does when it sees that I've changed a
default configuration file and wants to know if it should overwrite, etc...
it never makes a backup. The most obvious
It's so nice to know how thoughtful OS/X is. Often when I am doing
something trivial like scrolling down to read the rest of a document or
opening a folder in Finder that it stops to think deep thoughts for a moment
or two. I know that when the mouse pointer transforms into a spinning
On 16/04/07 11:45 Peter da Silva wrote:
Cellphones are hate wrapped in hate, with hate on the side, hate for an
appetizer, and a choice of hate for dessert.
Cellphones are hate a la carte.
So I write a paper with the following:
\begin{table}\label{table:foo}
\caption{Foo data}
...
\end{table}
and a little later...
\begin{table}\label{table:bar}
\caption{Bar data}
...
\end{table}
We examined foo (see Table \ref{table:foo}),
then we examined bar (see
Lots of things are hateful about Firefox printing.
Go to View - Page Style and select No Style. Then Print Preview. Ignored.
Worse, it's re-enabled the stylesheet.
On 15/03/07 22:53 A. Pagaltzis wrote:
What dimwit ever thought that conflating these options in a
single preference in this manner was a sane thing to do!? It took
me AGES to realise why the damn Ctrl-W shortcut no longer worked
as I expected it to. Googling for close to two hours or so in
Take the following zip file
$ unzip -l foo
Archive: foo.zip
Length Date TimeName
0 02-20-07 15:05 foo/
0 02-20-07 15:05 foo/file1
0 02-20-07 15:05 foo/bar/
0 02-20-07 15:05 foo/bar/file2
On 07/02/07 17:52 Yossi Kreinin wrote:
ncsim allows you to open at most 32 files at a time. Have you ever heard
of a more retarded fixed size limit?
DOS used to have something like that. But you could change an environment
variable to increase that.
I have to point out that 32 bits doesn't
I had a problem with the list view in Nautilus when I first installed Ubuntu
on a machine: all fields were unselected, so it showed nothing.
I am told this was never supposed to happen, but it did. I guess the
restriction was made at the UI level, but it (or at least the version I was
using)
On 09/01/07 15:54 Earle Martin wrote:
Dear $application_programmer,
I'm sure you found it very satisfying when you wrote the part of your
tab-handling code that makes the the tab that the user has just
clicked on - in one of multiple rows of tabs - jump up to the top, and
rearrange all the
I want to choose the colour for an alpha channel by clicking on something of
that colour in the image.
I get a Colour to Alpha Clour Picker but there's no way to select anything
from my image. I have to use the colour picker Tool to get the RGB
information, and then manually enter it into the
I have several PDF files to read, and re-read.
Every time I open them with Evince, it remembers the page I last viewed, and
the magnification (nice). But it seems to believe I have a 40 monitor.
Well, no, but the window's bottom and right edges extend way off screen. So
I need to use keyboard
On 21/12/06 05:47 Robert Spier wrote:
My bank is instituting one of those newfangled secondary-verification
pages (where you re-verify things like your age, favorite color, or
the picture you picked.) I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything
useful except make it harder for me to scrape my bank
On 21/12/06 10:16 Nicholas Clark wrote:
Meanwhile I'll just hate cash machine software for using an extra screen to
ask would you like a receipt with that when it had space on the previous
menu to split an option into two, one with and one without
And extra screens at the front of the sequence
On 21/12/06 16:25 Patrick Carr wrote:
On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Roger Burton West wrote:
[..]
MegaGloboBank thinks I went to the EskupatObs3 Elementary School.
Yes yes, that's all well and good, but _I_ have to remember it to. ...
You can use mnemonics or word-association to remember
On 18/12/06 07:18 Yoz Grahame wrote:
Oh go on, Firefox! Please freeze solid on me again! It's only been,
what, four times today?
I can't tell if it's your core code that's causing the problem or one
of the extensions I've installed ...
Probably the latter.
And I won't be able to tell
Why does any discussion about programming languages eventually degenerate
into bickering about Perl?
There are so many more hateful programming languages. Take Visual Basic
On 16/12/06 22:17 Peter da Silva wrote:
On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Juerd wrote:
Michael Leuchtenburg skribis
On 17/12/06 18:16 demerphq wrote:
On 12/17/06, Robert Rothenberg rob...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/12/06 08:52 Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Reach for the root cause: regexps themselves are hateful. Nasy,
cryptic line noise.
As has been said in another message, regexps are their own language,
which
I wasn't as clear about the source of hate. It was Character Map's inability
to remember the script I last used, and it's inability to guess what scripts
I'm likely to use.
I wrote:
... So I have to scroll down the list a couple of pages of a few dozen
character sets that I will rarely if
On 15/12/06 13:57 Earle Martin wrote:
Ȳ - hey, it works! Now I just have to memorize lots of inscrutable
multi-digit numbers. Hooray for progress!
Hence the need to use some kind of (hateful) Character Code utility.
On 12/12/06 01:23 Daniel Pittman wrote:
This is simple:
format ~A ~A ~A a-string an-array a-hash
This is complex:
print $astring, @anarray, %ahash
I consider the Perl way of doing things simpler, but that's because I'm used
to it. I don't think either way is more or less complex,
On 11/12/06 04:37 Aaron J. Grier wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 10:34:58PM -0500, Adam Atlas wrote:
Who told you you were supposed to look like audio HARDWARE? Please,
stop. It's really bad interface design.
In partial defence of this, many people already know how to interact with
audio
On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote:
iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod
If you really do want it to sync your music collection to your iPod, and
you plug your iPod in when its idea of your music collection is wrong, then
it's going to do the wrong thing whether your files
On 05/12/06 10:41 Matt McLeod wrote:
On 12/5/06, Robert Rothenberg rob...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote:
This isn't anything to do with DRM, it's all about syncing.
I disagree. ...
When I use rsync, by default it does not delete unless given the option.
You
Thunderbird won't accept a certificate when making a POP3 connection over
SSL, claiming it is invalid because it contains the same serial number as
another certificate issued by the certificate authority. Please get a new
certificate containing a unique serial number.
There's no option to ignore
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