Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-10 Thread Kyle Lutze
ok, I'll mention again what I've mentioned before. I've contacted quite a few people off list. everybody said they would set one up and help me out, one came through. the problem with his system was it was not very reliable at all. Alfred said he would not officially endorse it, but if it was

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-10 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On Feb 6, 2006, at 11:24 PM, doomed999 wrote: I have BugZilla set up on a subdomain. I personally do not like how it looks. I messed with it a little and said screw it, though I have never messed with BugZilla before. Erik, if you would like to config it and make it usable contact me offlist

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Stan Bubrouski
guys. Rayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doomed999 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:26 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Seeing

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Craig Moore
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:52 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Yeah I suppose, I think the different

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Tim McLennan
PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Having a single, clean list of current bugs in the engine that I could edit (i.e mark them off as fixed, fix in progress, no fix, feature request, etc) would be useful. I won't commit

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Suck.
I believe that the Friends 3 beta wiki may be part of the new bug reporting system that Valve is designing, as described by Alfred. It can be found here: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Friends_Beta -Grant. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On Feb 6, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Suck. wrote: I believe that the Friends 3 beta wiki may be part of the new bug reporting system that Valve is designing, as described by Alfred. It can be found here: I had offered to do this, and even got a few requests regarding it. I'm however moving this

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
That site isn't the new system, but it is a similar theme to what we want. Suck. wrote: I believe that the Friends 3 beta wiki may be part of the new bug reporting system that Valve is designing, as described by Alfred. It can be found here:

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-02-06 Thread doomed999
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hollensbe Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:46 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) On Feb 6, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Suck. wrote: I believe that the Friends 3 beta wiki may be part of the new bug

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-21 Thread Kyle Lutze
Ok, for setting up a bugzilla, I would love to help get it going, but I do not have any servers that I can donate at this time. If somebody wants to contact me off list to try and set one up that would be cool. I have one pending request out, but don't know what's happening there yet. Also,

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-21 Thread Erik Hollensbe
I've already said that I would set it up, but not moderate it. If I can get a few responses that indicate that's what people would like, I'll go forward with it. I've setup bugzilla before and I know what I'm doing, on a colocated box with unlimited bandwidth (for the right price: free.) On

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread doomed999
] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:52 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Yeah I suppose, I think the different viewpoint here is you're assuming only server

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread ray
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:52 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Yeah I suppose, I think the different

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Craig Moore
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Seeing this is a server op mail list yeah, I would assume it wouldn't be used for client problems. I would assume clients get support from support.steampowered.com but once again that only an assumption

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread ray
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) I don't know what gives you guys the idea that Valve would possibly point any of their subdomains to a web server run by some user. If this is going to happen, someone at Valve needs to take the action. I think

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doomed999 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:26 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Seeing this is a server op mail list yeah, I would assume it wouldn't be used

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Scott Pettit
Would it be at all possible to look at setting up a small group to test updates prior to release for a day or two? If a client side update was required too then a small beta button could be added in so that a prearranged group of users could update to the beta release and join a beta server to

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread DJ (e-Plutonia Inc.)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I Second that, i've had many clients complain over this. I am sure you can do the Beta releases first Alfred, the system is already there. On 1/18/06, Scott Pettit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be at all possible to look at setting up a

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Our current systems don't support this option, but we are certainly working towards this flexibility in our Steam3. - Alfred Scott Pettit wrote: Would it be at all possible to look at setting up a small group to test updates prior to release for a day or two? If a client side update was

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Dan E
Personally I would love such an option; I haven't been too fond of the most recent updates. I would gladly contribute both a Windows and Linux server for testing purposes, as well as client-side testing (possibly a dozen client side tests, I'm sure my clanmembers wouldn't mind :D ). :) Dan ---

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread DJ (e-Plutonia Inc.)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred: then what is -beta ? On 1/18/06, Dan E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I would love such an option; I haven't been too fond of the most recent updates. I would gladly contribute both a Windows and Linux server for testing

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
That flag has limitations and doesn't interact properly with other systems (like the serverbrowser). - Alfred DJ (e-Plutonia Inc.) wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred: then what is -beta ? On 1/18/06, Dan E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I would love

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread Marcel
It would be best when valve hosts the project (like this mailing list). As already said: some 'list veterans' should be chosen to maintain and clean up bug-posts (duplicates, no useful information, ...). I think this would help more than reading this mailing list (90% spam/flame wars/non-sense

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On 1/16/06, Evaldas Zilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea. I agree. - Original Message - From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/ alfred

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread Stan Bubrouski
On 1/17/06, Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP That said, someone at valve should be on the moderation team, to ensure that bugs are indeed bugs... I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :) Yeah I forsee using bugzilla as intended might be quite a problem, say 200+ bugs a week,

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread doomed999
] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) On 1/17/06, Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP That said, someone at valve should be on the moderation team, to ensure that bugs are indeed bugs... I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :) Yeah I forsee using bugzilla as intended

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On Jan 17, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Stan Bubrouski wrote: On 1/17/06, Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP That said, someone at valve should be on the moderation team, to ensure that bugs are indeed bugs... I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :) Yeah I forsee using bugzilla as

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-17 Thread Stan Bubrouski
Yeah I suppose, I think the different viewpoint here is you're assuming only server operators, On 1/17/06, doomed999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see 200+ more bugs a week posted on the list? I think mainly it No but most server operators aren't on this list, a small fraction are. But there

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Stan Bubrouski
. - Original Message - From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Marcel wrote: Hey, wouldn't it be much better

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Kyle Lutze
agree. - Original Message - From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Marcel wrote: Hey, wouldn't it be much

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Joel Dickson
] wrote: Great idea. I agree. - Original Message - From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Marcel wrote: Hey

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Alfred Reynolds
On 1/16/06, Evaldas Zilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea. I agree. - Original Message - From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred

Re: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread David Harrison
Someone was surprised a couple days ago when I asked about a bug, it is because this list can become verbose, I don't read every post fully. Having something like this filter out the flame wars would certainly help. We are actually working on something internally that may enable this, but I

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread ray
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Ill volunteer some web hosting. I'll even volunteer some sql dbs Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Lutze Sent: Tuesday, 17

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Joel Dickson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2006 4:00 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) It could be useful if it: - isn't full of spam - contains unique

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread ray
it happen. Rayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Dickson Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:29 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) Ok Alfred, bug tracking

RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred)

2006-01-16 Thread Alfred Reynolds
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] reporting bugs (question to valve/alfred) It could be useful if it: - isn't full of spam - contains unique bugs (not duplicates) - has extensive information about the problem (ways to reproduce it, screenshots/logs, platform details