[Hornlist] Re: Brahms Songs

2005-12-29 Thread William Melton
I've more or less made up my mind to order a boxed set = of Brahms Choral music with the 4 songs performed by the London Symphony = Chorus/City of London Sinfonia conducted by Richard Hickox. There's a = whole lot more choral music in the five box set - and I'm sure there's = plenty that's

RE: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Not only, a short grip to the tuning slide of the Viennese Horn, a light pull, would make another half step, as there are 2 inches to pull or more. And a pull on the third slide would add to it. All a matter of seconds. Do you know, how to make the sound of a muted wagnertuba if there is no mute,

RE: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Surely, you cannot imagine that, as you are not familiar with the F-horn playing technique of the Viennese school. At first, what is so important with that Shostakovich no.5 ? It is just a wave, a fashion not more & will fade. And if they play, they can use a different crook for this passage or ask

Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Paul Rincon
I don't believe that anyone in the Vienna Philharmonic uses a triple horn. A double horn; perhaps for the extreme pieces such as Sinfonia Domestica and such maybe. Hans would know. I DO know that Gottfried von Freiberg played a Paxman F/F-Alto descant on the last recording he made (Midsummer Night'

[Hornlist] I'll take mine Geschtopftmitscheist

2005-12-29 Thread Wendell Rider
message: 1 date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:12:25 -0600 from: John Wunderlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Re: The Real Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist No...because Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist is a tangible being...but just what is his REAL identity? Come one...somebody help me out h

Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Jerry Houston
Marc Gelfo wrote: Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in the 4th mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn (I guess maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F# with F123, but that would be treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E with that fingeri

Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Richard Smith
French orchestras were losing their recording contracts due to the uniqueness of their sound in the WW's and brass. The producers and conductors were deeming them "unmarketable." Daniel Barenboim brought in Mike Bloom (who was available as he had just left Cleveland) to serve as co-principal

[Hornlist] Prof. I.M. G. - Part 1

2005-12-29 Thread KendallBetts
OK, since I'm the one who knows him the best, after all, and he was and still is in a way, MY TEACHER, I can tell you what little I know about his background. I can only surmise some of this, and other stuff is factual, to the best of my memory but please don't mistake any of this for th

[Hornlist] Prof. I.M. G. - Part 2

2005-12-29 Thread KendallBetts
I had to work part-time to earn spending money and to pay for my horn lessons. Vinnie talked to his dad and he gave us both jobs as Vermin Control Assistants at the landfill. This required us to shoot the rats with .22 caliber rifles as we were not old enough yet to carry handguns. Sal

[Hornlist] Re: Bivalvulation

2005-12-29 Thread HORNTRASH
Steve "Frenchy" Freides inquisites: But Professor, I do not see "bivalvulation" explained. Please enlighted me, or at least tell me what it means. Now, here is the definition as defined in the Kopprasch Heritage Dictionary: bi·valve n. 1. A mollusk, such as an oyster or a clam, that has

[Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread Marc Gelfo
> In reality though, the Vienna Philharmonic is an "original instruments > group" in the truest sense. I've heard a lot of players in Vienna are using doubles and triples for security in the high register, but cannot substantiate this claim since I don't remember from whom I heard it or any pa

[Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-29 Thread KendallBetts
Actually, this is only part of the story, and a little bit off at that. As explained to me by Michel Garcin-Marrou (who was there): French orchestras were losing their recording contracts due to the uniqueness of their sound in the WW's and brass. The producers and conductors were de

[Hornlist] Re: Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread rob
I had some trouble deciphering the comments here with all the "3D=3D=3D"'s & =20"s I have a felling that Barboteu was the alpha & omega of the French Vibrato School. As for the best concertstuck recording, For me it's: Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra / Bernardi with William Hopson, Kurt

[Hornlist] Updated CLAMSAA Page

2005-12-29 Thread HORNTRASH
Now, I am the mostestest of thankings having to you all for joining in the CLAMSAA celebrations so please be having some looks at the updated web page devoted to our devotions: _http://www.horncamp.org/clamsaa.htm_ (http://www.horncamp.org/clamsaa.htm) Seasonings Greetonings and Mostest of

Re: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread Paul Rincon
I believe it was Indiana Universitie's Myron Bloom who worked in France (Orchestre de Paris) and attempted to make the French adopt the big Conn 8-D horns and sound concept. Before Myron Bloom entered the scen; it was common to see ascending horns and hear a much more 'nationalistic' sound. Now (li

Re: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 29/12/2005 09:50:15 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . And lost almost all the special character of the French School of Horn Playing . Yes, exactly, All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_

Re: [Hornlist] The Real Prof. I. M. P.

2005-12-29 Thread Peter W. Schroth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Michael, there is a Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist! Those who have no idea what Cabbage is talking about should Google "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set o

Re: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread Luke Zyla
I agree with Hans! This is the most exciting recording of the Konzertstuck ever recorded! CORdially, Luke Zyla Prof.Hans Pizka wrote: . And lost almost all the special character of the French School of Horn Playing . ===

RE: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread Bill Gross
Wasn't use of vibrato also favored among Eastern European horn players? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prof.Hans Pizka Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:49 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzer

RE: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
. And lost almost all the special character of the French School of Horn Playing . = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

Re: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck

2005-12-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 28/12/2005 22:44:32 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the players use vibrato extensively, which I believe was the standard practice of the "Horn School" in France at the time the recordings were made. I'm not sure if it still is... No it isn't. When I

RE: [Hornlist] THE LEXICON OF CLAMOLOGY

2005-12-29 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
The "SCHPLOIEEOIEEOI" clams (see explanation below in the original letter) are those which cruise in the hall for years bouncing from one wall against the other, creating uncountable stories .. AND these clams are the truely unforgetable and most beautiful clams. But still, the conductors have