s means horn in B flat
(down a perfect fifth) rather than horn in B natural (down an diminished
fifth). Can anyone clarify this for me? Please respond to one of my email
addresses below. I'm on digest & may not see the answer before the first
rehearsal!
Valerie Wells
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rest of the
day. (I need to do the gentle Wendell Rider warm up to play with a nice tone
throughout the day.) I think some of my super-chops friend's abilities come
from developing very efficient chops over decades & decades of continual
playing. I also think he's somewhat of a
Almost two years ago, I had the opportunity to play around with one of the
Sansone horns that did NOT have the Bb slides on top at Dillon music (somewhere
outside NYC). It was wrapped exactly like the Holton Farkas horns, or maybe I
should say that Farkas horns are wrapped just like this Sanso
I love carrying my cut bell horn in my light weight ProTec gig bag. I bought
it used for $80 from a list member who heard me whining about injuring my back
from lugging around my horn in it's two ton Holton wooden case. My gig bag is
for a fixed bell horn, so I don't have to mess with screwin
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yet have my transposed BE exercises for horn, let me know & I'll send them PDF
(no charge). [These exercises are useless without Jeff Smiley's instructions.]
Valerie Wells, BE dealer for horn
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On a Tuesday in December I learned that my second horn player had gotten the
dates mixed up and had a set-in-stone conflict for our holiday concert the
following Friday. I contacted every horn player I knew in the south Puget
Sound area & every single one was booked. I was desparate. We were
<> No, Hans. I'll spare you the details, but my immune
system was ravaged & I nearly died from a disease I inherited from my
ancestors. The faulty immune system I inherited is the cause of my
sensitivities. I find your implication that I am a hypochondriac insulting.
You were apparently bles
Wow! My son & I attended a live broadcast of Masanet's "Thias" this morning at
our local movie theater. If you've never tried this, you don't know what
you're missing. It was a fabulous experience. I think I probably enjoyed it
more than I would have had I been in NYC! We enjoyed surround
in the horn
community that the author recently asked me to handle all the BE book sales to
horn players. Email me if you are interested.) Valerie Wells in
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cash. (When you contact me for a book, tell me where you live. I may need to
refer you to a BE dealer closer to your area.)
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*The Balanced Embouchure was written by a trumpet teacher, Jeff Smiley, for
trumpet, but it's helping dozens of hor
I love him. He makes me laugh. Very entertaining. Sure he's "out there", but
that's the fun of it. I love how fearless he is. Not afraid to take chances &
never takes himself too seriously. I think the horn world could use a little
more of that attitude. ~Valerie in
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http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys-b7NHlEWo
When will someone make a mpc like this for horn? Tom Greer, are you listening?
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I'm in the process of setting up a master class and/or private lessons w/
Wendell Rider, author of "Real World Horn Playing" in our area. If you missed
my message earlier, contact me for details.
Valerie Wells
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Cute "little" video. Good "little tuba" playing, too. If this link doesn't
work, do a "little" youtube search for "Wagner's Little Tuba."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNuLeifSJFk
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For a couple years, I've been enthusiastically promoting The Balanced
Embouchure for no other reason than I believe in it because it works so well
for me & others I know. Just this week, Jeff Smiley asked me to be a BE dealer
for him. After thinking about it for a few days, I said okay. I wo
BTW Gang, after taking some time off this summer, I got all better. Thanks for
the help and support. Valerie
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(I just realized I posted this response to the wrong list. So sorry for double
posting.)
Neuro,
IMHO Mathew gave a very good discription of good breath support. But reading
about good breath support and actually doing it are two different things. I
came back to horn 2 1/2 years ago after a
I attended NY Phil's opening night last week, Wednesday 17th. They were, of
course, everything I hoped & dreamed of -- fabulous! They did Tchai #4 &
Berlioz's Roman Carnival & Sir James Gallway played the Ibert flute concerto.
It was all magnificent! Also, at the beginning, they all stood t
Speaker: Hi. My name is Ethyl.
Support group: Hello, Ethyl.
Ethyl: I'm an unconventional greaser. I use bacon grease on my slides.
Group, nodding w/ acceptance: It's okay Ethyl. You're not alone, Ethyl. Tell
us your story, Ethyl. Let it out, Ethyl.
Ethel: It started when I was very young
My titallating Blue Juice story:
I bought a Yamaha 667 last fall w/ great valves. There was a bottle of Blue
Juice included. Hmmm... so I tried the Blue Juice on my Holton's valves & they
got faster over the next few weeks (as did my technique). I sold the Yamaha &
kept the Blue Juice to us
Since our horn and English horn are both in F, any duets written for two
instruments of the same key could be easily adapted provided you don't need to
transpose piano accompaniment. There are lots of vocal duets written for
religious occasions. Valerie in Tacoma
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If you own Jeff Smiley's book, THE BALANCED EMBOUCHURE, I've written an
adaptation of some of the exercises for horn. Contact me & I'll "snail mail"
you a copy. If you're interested in the book, but haven't ordered it yet, make
sure you tell Jeff Smiley that you're a horn player so he can inc
I'd like to see a double blind taste test w/ blinded musicians (as Steve
suggested) comparing expensive custom horns to less expensive factory produced
horns.
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Currently ...
-Wendell's warm up, special attention to multiple tonguing
-Jeff Smiley, Roll Out 1 - 4, Roll In 1,2,4; Advanced Lip Slurs w/ snaps & zips
-Kling, 40 Studies, #7, (working on speed)
-McCoy's 46 Progressive Exercises for Low Horn, #14 & 15, (falling in love w/
low horn)
-Frank
Some people are telling me they can't get to the you-tube link I posted. I
don't know why this happens sometimes. I went to the site again and cut &
pasted the address, but it came out the same as I posted originally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNsGOu_W-KE
If this doesn't work, try s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNsGOu_W-KE
Only about 2 1/2 minutes. Listen to those horns at the end. Holy cow!
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A sidelight about children & pitch. When I was a child, I ALWAYS hummed & made
up tunes in the key of Ab. I'd awaken in the morning humming tunes in Ab &
would keep that key going all day long, even through band rehearsal, piano
practice, singing in school & church, etc. This was a consisten
<>
Howard, I agree w/ Mason Jones, but I still believe it's tougher to master and
control those 48 "correct lip positions" on the horn than some other
instruments. Those notes just "slot in" & "stick" easier on trumpet than on
horn. How else could I more easily play Strauss I on a horn whic
To answer my own dumb question:
Because we're human. DUH!!
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Some brass players never need help w/ their embouchures, but many do. It's nice
to know there's help when we need it.With his permission, I'm quoting an
unsolicited email from Andrew Joy.
---Dear Valerie,
Jeff Smiley passed your email address onto me. I am a 56 y.o. Australian
mcamilleri/BE/BEFAQ.htm ]
[I have no financial interests in The Balanced Embouchure. I'm just a happy BE
student who enjoys sharing good news with my fellow horn players.]
Sincerely, Valerie Wells
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Why do we miss so much? Because the horn is a beast to control, that's why!
If you've played horn for 30 or 40 years, you hardly miss anymore and you
forget or lose your awareness of this fact of life. But if you are like me,
only having played for 2 1/2 years after a 33 year hiatus, you are
<>
Good; easy to play in tune. My Merker valve slides are almost in tune "right
out of the box" requiring very little adjustment. The main tuning slide is
pulled about 1/2 inch. The other slides are all the way in.
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appliances when I play. I tried playing with them but it felt too> > strange as
my lips protrude a small amount when they are in. The "hooks"> > do not bother
me when playing, even though they are exposed. The most> > significant problem
I am now facing is that as my
I play the Merker w/ the rose bronze bell, I think it's the H276. I love it
for it's quick response, clean sound, easy upper register and it's
"blowability" for lack of a better term. That's not to say that I believe I
own the finest horn in the universe, but simply that I didn't find anythin
Here's a quote from Reader's Digest that may be helpful to some: <>
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What a confusing topic finding a good mpc can be. I'd been playing on a Farkas
DC for over a year. I loved the rim for its comfort & roominess. It seemed a
perfect fit for my lips. However, I was dissatisfied w/ the sound I made w/
it. It was too dark for my taste and the tone thinned out
Hans wrote:
Very clever phrase you've coined there, Hans. When I can patiently diciplin
myself to practice "the digital way", it works great for me. Too much
woodshedding & hammering, especially high stuff, destroys my embouchure & tone.
When I'm learning something new I like to play
I wrote earlier this year asking for help w/ my 11 year old student who was
playing w/ an upside down embouchure. I chatted w/ her father, a music
educator, about Wendell Rider's recommendations. He went to Wendell's website,
downloaded the information about embouchures & casually dropped it
I traveled to & from the Denver IHS symposium on SW airlines w/ my cut bell
horn in the Osmun flight case. No problems. It fit perfectly in the overhead
baggage compartment as long as I put it in pointed end first. I only wish it
had wheels which would have made it a lot easier to cart aroun
Ooops I left this out. This came from a health care professional, horn
player, w/ 25 years experience in this area:
"... there is a LOT of clinical experience to show that prying someone's mouth
open while bracing the back of their head against a dental chair tends to
discombobulate th
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Some things seem to be hard to do solve. My wife just went through a VERY
difficult period. It started in her wrists and fingers. We went to see our
family doctor who generally controls our treatments. He sent her to a
neurologist . . . He sent her to a hand surgeon to rel
-I have also had carpal tunnel syndrome and have controlled it by
adapting my use of the computer mouse and limiting my daily time of stressful
activity.Now, you quickly went up to 3 hours of playing time per day. Hummm!
One solution is to reduce to this 90 minutes for a few weeks o
More helpful information from horn friends:
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I've had some TMJ-like problems myself in the past, and now and then currently
as well. I've known some good horn players (friends and classmates) who had a
lot of problems, too, and either stopped on horn or left the major. This
I'm grateful for the kind & caring responses I received to my whining about my
TMJ issues. I'm using a lot of the suggestions I received and I'm already
getting better. Just knowing that other horn players are managing well after
TMJ flares ups, is a BIG relief to mr. Since TMJ issues are so
for several months in a row. The regimen permently cleared up my carpel tunnel
and thoracic outlet syndrome in about six weeks, but I continued to use both
for a few months for "good measure."
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Someone please tell me there's a light at the end of this tunnel. I've been
experiencing TMJ problems for over a year now. My dentist says playing horn is
triggering it. She can see changes on my X-rays since I've been playing again,
2 1/2 years now. She put me in a night guard, gave me a t
Can anyone tell me anything about the Holton 109? One of my orchestra friends
bought one of these for his daughter from E-bay for $2300. Valerie in
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I played with a horn trio in a chamber music concert this evening. After the
concert, a lovely young girl & her dad came up to talk to me. They told how
that she has always had a burning desire to play horn. The father said they
tried to fix her up with a horn, but couldn't. Then he lifted
Hans, thank you for your comments. However, I'm not sure I understand what you
are trying to tell me. Do you mean that when I work on low horn parts, I'm
setting in the lower lip too deeply (Einsetzen?) pulling the lips apart too
much and it is causing cramping? Do you mean that I should be
Everytime I start to have trouble playing chronically sharp, all I have to do
to correct the problem is to spend an appreciable amount of time working on low
horn work, & I mean VERY LOW horn work. My favorite low horn part to honk
around on is Kerry Turner's Quartet # 1. I can't play the fou
Yes, Steve, there is a wonderful trumpet forum called the Trumpet Herald w/
various dedicated subdivisions such as Balanced Embouchure, Jerome Callet,
fundamentals, etc. I've belonged to this Trumpet Herald for 18 months. I've
gotton tremendous help w/ my embouchure from the guys in the Balan
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Question for you more experienced horn players. When you play a horn that is
new to you, do you have intonation problems? I'm trying to figure things out.
I've been playing a Holton 179 (large bell silver) for two years. I work w/ a
tuner several times a week. When I work w/ the tuner on m
Yes, USAA insures my horn against loss, theft or damage anywhere in the world
w/ NO deductable -- all for $25.00 a year for valuables up to $5000. (USAA is
great!) This is not a standard homeowner's insurance policy. It's a special
policy I purchased separately. I had to declare the val
I called my insurance company (USAA) and found out that my horns are insured
(as personal valuable property) against damage or theft while being shipped
anywhere worldwide as long as I ship w/ a company that supplies tracking
information. This sure cuts back on the cost of shipping. ~~Valerie
I've celebrating my 2 year anniversary of coming back to the horn. I'm pleased
w/ my progress. I've learned a lot about horn playing from everyone on this
list. Thanks to everyone that posts in here. I'd like to mention names, but
won't for fear I might leave someone out. Suffice it to say
er the wider end of the flare. Comments?
Opinions?
Valerie Wells, balanced embouchure student
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I recently met w/ two other horn players in a large church sanctuary w/
carpeted floors & upholstered pews to compare the sound of three horns. One of
the other horn players is a professional. The other horn player & I are
amatuers. We each took turns testing the horns behind a screen so tha
I loved Steve's string bass story! And, yes, horn playing is intense. I came
back to horn 2 years ago after being off it for 33 years. I practice two to
three hours a day because I'm compulsive, retired & have the time. Although
I've come a long way, baby, I still have SO far to go bef
WOW! Tom's given me a very good reason to develop a better relationship w/ my
dentist!
Thanks, Tom, I hope your recovery goes well.
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When I slack off practicing during the summer or even for a few days when I get
especially busy, the first thing I lose is security in my lower range, then
later other things start falling apart -- tone, flexibility, endurance,
technique. Surprizingly, the upper range seems to always remains i
Something similar happened to me just a few months ago. I'm a recent come back
horn player & am busting my buns to develop my skills to the point that I will
be a useful contribution to my local orchestras. I was asked to substitute
during a rehearsal for an absent principle on a Gluck ov
Chris wrote:
"This was also my experience. In about 1955 I spent a day at Conn in Elkhart
picking out a different leadpipe for my 300,000 series 8D and all were
different."
Chris, could you please explain how this task was physically accomplished? Do
you mean you played on several identi
I sincerely appreciate all the discussion offered by Wendell & others on the
C-series mpc. I played on the old style Giardinelli C10 for a little over a
week. I loved how it offered a quick response, clean attacks & nice full tone.
I noticed, however, during that week that I developed a firm
I can't comment on which lead pipe is best for a Conn 8D. But I can comment on
how important a leadpipe in good condition is compared to a damaged leadpipe.
I recently had the opportunity to play on a Holton 104, the Tuckwell horn, that
has two interchangeable leadpipes. One of the lead pipe
Steve, I really enjoyed reading your comments. I too enjoy orchestral playing
every chance I get. But in my area, there's is an abundance of very fine horn
players all competing for a precious few spots in community & professional
orchestras.
Your experiences are in sharp contrast to mine
It's true that some of the horn parts for band music could be more interesting,
but there's lots of good stuff out there. Take a look at: Hanson's "Chorale &
Alleluia", Jenkins's "American Overture", Persichetti's "Pagent", Thomson's "A
Solemn Music", and Still's "From the Delta". In "Americ
If you play a Geyer wrap horn, what mouthpiece do you like? Why?
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Thanks guys for the interesting responses about 5 valve single horns. How
would one make use of the F extension? Would you hold it down & finger the
other valves as if it were an F horn? If that's the intended use, wouldn't
there be significant shortfalls for intonation
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An on-line friend (trumpet player) is asking me questions about a five valve
single horn (that plays w/ a beautiful tone). Am I correct to assume this is a
Bb horn? Or have five valve single horns been made in F, too? I was told the
4th & 5th valves are operated by the thumb. I know one of
I like it; that's all. I recently bought a used Yamaha 667 from a retired
horn instructor. Included in the purchase was an old Giardinelli C10 &
three other mpc's. I've tried this mpc on both my H179 & my Yamaha 667 and
I've compared it to the other six mpc's I have in my possession (Farka
I love my Seiko SAT500 chromatic tuner. Valerie
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I have a friend who purchased a used horn. She noticed that it was very
"watery", that is, it needed draining more than the horn she'd previously
played. She had it professionally cleaned & it changed. It no longer was a
"watery" horn. For reasons I don't quite grasp, the clean horn seems to
I used to grease my slides & shove them all the way in, then tune them from
the top down by pulling out the slides. This left exposed grease inside the
slide, close to the valves that could easily migrate to the valves & gum
them up.
This is what I do now to help keep grease from migrating in
I meant to say I am looking for a Giardinelli C10 (not 310). Sorry. If any
of you know where I can locate a C10, please let me know.
Valerie
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I don't know what these are called & I can't find them anywhere I've looked.
I'm trying to find a source to buy the cool little gadgets I saw on Gail
William's horn Saturday. I didn't get a chance to ask her about them.
They're little metal bands, about 7 to 9 mm wide (less than 1/4 inch). T
My dear horn friends, I'm looking for a couple hard to find mouthpieces. I
would be very grateful if anyone can please tell me where I can get these,
new or used.
(1) Constellation 3B-N, 3B-W
(2) Giardinelli 310 mouthpiece. (Giardinelli doesn't make this one
anymore.)
Valerie
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Thanks to everyone who contributes ANYTHING to this discussion list. I'm
learning so much from ALL of you. We do squabble from time to time, but we
always kiss & make up! :o) Valerie XOXOX
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I wrote earlier about my friend re-corking his old B & H mute. I didn't
tell you how he attached the corks because I didn't know. I played a gig
with him last night. He said he used double stick adhesive tape to adhere
the cork strips to his mute. It's simple, inexpensive, less messy than gl
upgrade.>
I liek my Trumcor mute. It has a fine muted sound in all registers.
However, my friend is still playing on the same H & B mute he bought in the
early 60's. His corks also fell apart. He bought cork at the hardward
store, cut it in strips & glued them to his mute. He had to exper
John, Jay, Steve, James, Simon, Thanks so much for responding to my query
about lead pipe & mpc connection. I've learned a new word, venturi, and
appreciate the helpful information & discussion. This is a great resource
for me. Thanks everyone. ~Valerie
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Duh! Never mind my previous question. I get it. I need to learn how to
count. 462,056 falls between 455,750 - 467,099, which means the H177 I have
been looking at was built in 1968 when I was a kid! ~Valerie
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I'm trying to find out how old a Holton Farkas H177 is. I found a number
462056 on the Bb valve cylinder which I assume is the serial number. (???) I
found a website that says serial numbers on Holton instruments between
43973-47600 were built in 1919. I don't think that's possible since Phili
I've been tootling around with a very, very old Holton H177. It plays quite
well considering the condition it's in, except it has a slightly stuffy
middle C. The mpc goes in about 1 - 2 mm farther than on my newer horn. I
have two questions:
(1) Do any of you know if this flaw can make a si
I've used the Dufransne warm up routine, so this may not be the same as the
method you are asking about. Anyway, I *loved* it [past tense emphasized].
By the time I was done with the whole 45 minute thing, my lips were like
rubber bands, so flexible I could play any note & do anything with the
Three Q's if anyone cares to answer, please.
(1) If you play a Geyer wrap horn, what do you like about it?
(2) If you previously owned a Geyer wrap horn, but don't now, could you
please tell me why & what you replaced it with?
(3) If you can objectively compare a Geyer wrap to a Kruspe wrap base
No big deal, Daniel. I think the whole episode was actually pretty funny,
but then I often see humor where others don't. It was a mini clash of
cultures fueled by language barriers & misunderstandings. Happens all the
time. We get over it and move on! And no penance necessary . . . please,
Perhaps you are using a crystal ball or Tarot cards to tell you
these things? These conclusions certainly couldn't have been gleened from
anything I've ever written to this list. If using devices of mystical
divination is how you've come to your conclusions, you need to look for
ot
Some one please enlighten me. What's happening to me? I switched to a
slightly larger rim, deeper cup mpc 5 days ago. I expected to be playing a
little flatter than usual, but this is rediculous. I've pushed in my tuning
slide ALL the way & have to "lip up" to play in tune. Even when I swit
There's nothing more boring than a string orchestra. Give me BRASS or give
me death!
Valerie
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I joined this list about six months ago. Since that time, we've been
through two oil seasons, one horn hygiene series, two or three ridicule the
amatuer musician threads, a scathing rebuke for hob-nobbing with a trumpet
teacher, a kooky debate about whether Bach was mathematical or not (as if i
I just watched the first 2 hours of Wendell's DVD. It's great! I love the
explanation of how to hold the horn while standing. No one's ever explained
that to me before. That alone was worth a $100 lesson! The buzzing
explanation & demo was worth another $100 lesson. And then the embouchure
Perhaps it's oil season again...
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Nicholas Charles Bochsa (1789-1856)
ANDANTE SOSTENUTO for horn and harp
I have a recording made in 1971 of Lily Laskne playing this on the CD: "The
Magic of the French Horn". It's played with a very heavy vibrato. A little
too much for my taste, but it's a nice piece. Very lyrical.
Valer
scientist turned
horn player I am, am capable of error! ;o)
Valerie
Steve wrote:
- Steve Mumford
Valerie wrote:
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date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:16:43 -0700
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subject: [Hornlist] RE: Sansone Horns
Richard Hirsh wrote:
76.
Richard Hirsh wrote:
76. The model 77 was based on a Kruespe wrap and became the basis for the
Farkas model horns. Model 76 and 77 horns have similar playing qualities,
and seem to share many components. The model 376 was produced as a student
horn for several years, and seems to be app
Hans wrote:
invested in hornplaying, I also wonder very much, why they too often seem to
mount the hors backwards. Many of you have still to struggle with technical
& musical basics, but talk about Strauss no.2, Alpine Symphony, Mozart
no.29, stopping extreme weak notes Notes which are weak for
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