Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-04 Thread brassartsunlim
Message- From: John Baumgart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'The Horn List' Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:56 am Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments No kidding. Also, I fail to see how facts can be bigoted. There is a difference between inexpensive stencil products and count

RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-03 Thread John Baumgart
nt: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:48 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments What a hoot! "No offense intended" then the comment about such a viiew being bigotted. On 5/2/08, Jeremy Cucco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John- > > No offense intended, but

Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread William Gross
since he doesn't have access to many Western websites, he > wasn't aware that he was creating a fraud copy. > > Just some food for thought. > > Cheers, > Jeremy > > -Original Message- > From: "John Baumgart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 5:56 PM -0700 5/2/08, David Lamb wrote: There are some very good violins being made in China these days. Nothing to compete with the Cremona masters, of course, but very respectable instruments that are hand made by master craftsmen. The best of them are not marketed as anything they a

Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread David Lamb
There are some very good violins being made in China these days. Nothing to compete with the Cremona masters, of course, but very respectable instruments that are hand made by master craftsmen. The best of them are not marketed as anything they are not. My guess is that Chinese horn makers

RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread Jeremy Cucco
doesn't have access to many Western websites, he wasn't aware that he was creating a fraud copy. Just some food for thought. Cheers, Jeremy -Original Message- From: "John Baumgart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: 5/2/08 6

RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: John Baumgart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:42 PM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments > > For the record, I'm not optimistic about this situation. &g

RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread John Baumgart
John Baumgart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Warner Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:40 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments On 1 May 2008, at 11:20 pm, John Baumgart wrote: > Speaking of Chinese made horns,

Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Warner
On 1 May 2008, at 11:20 pm, John Baumgart wrote: Speaking of Chinese made horns, Kit wrote: "A couple of years in the future when the manufacturers learn what they're doing, these instruments may start to become quite acceptable." I agree. I'm one who's actually optimistic about the future

RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-01 Thread John Baumgart
Given the respect China has for intellectual property and their flourishing counterfeiting industry, once the instruments do become marginally better than they are today, you will start seeing counterfeit Elkhart 8Ds, Alexander 103s, and the like. They will even contain legitimate serial numbers a

Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments

2008-05-01 Thread brassartsunlim
They are already finding this out - at least some of them are. And the prices are starting to go up accordingly. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 1:58 pm Subject: [Hornlist]