OK, That makes sense Bruno, thanks for the detailed passionless
explanation. :-)
I'll keep my eyes out for this person.
On Nov 16, 2:00 pm, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/11/16 Jeffrey Martin 360cit...@gmail.com:
As I said already, do you want more people to help
On 10 ноя, 13:45, namklim namk...@googlemail.com wrote:
To me, GIMP seems much more professional in distribution of binaries.
Native (no X11) 2.6.7 binaries for Leopard/Snow Leopard anyone? :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :)
Alexandre
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Hugin windows packagers need to look at what other projects are doing for
packaging. Gimp is a good start. I know this subject came up when working
with gramps-project.org. At the time it was considered bad etiquette bundled
other open source software with the same project, however I think
Harry van der Wolf wrote:
It's not about the discussion itself or how it got here. That is completely
valid here and your criticism as such is also valid. It's more the choice
of your words that made me react (self appointed leader and so on), which
is unfair and doesn't give Yuv the credits
well I'd be thrilled to contribute and I do use windows. actually I've
been going off it lately but I imagine it's cyclical.
What I would require is a crude explanation what is and how works C
and what is C ++ how is the same name for program language different
in windows and unix. I would need
well I'd be thrilled to contribute and I do use windows. actually I've
been going off it lately but I imagine it's cyclical.
What I would require is a crude explanation what is and how works C
and what is C ++ how is the same name for program language different
in windows and unix. I would
Thanks Ryan for explaining all that is involved. Indeed it looks like it's
not just a problem of compiling Hugin on your own computer...
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well I'd be thrilled to contribute and I do use windows.
Great explanation, Ryan.
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sorry, I don't have a compiler.
That might not mean i'm useless, though ;-)
On Nov 15, 12:15 pm, Stefan Peter s_pe...@swissonline.ch wrote:
Jeffrey Martin wrote:
All the time spent arguing about how lazy and useless people are (i'm
not naming any names here), the windows version could
On Nov 15, 12:44 pm, Stefan Peter s_pe...@swissonline.ch wrote:
As I have mentioned in another thread, hugin is not about market share
or world domination.
Providing 90% of the computer users out there with a usable installer
for this program isnt' world domination. It's common sense.
As I
I does seem really a lot of work to try to get all the stuff to work
properly on windows.
I appreciate it is ( or used ) to be difficult to get any useful
information from microsoft but is there any way the process could be
simplified. I don't understand coding at all except for reading the
odd
Thanks for your Windows build Allard! I'm using it currently (alternating
with Yuv's layout-branch test build) and it works great so far for me.
I think it is good to get something out there for windows like you've
done, and then we can perfect the releases based on that. The wiki and
2009/11/16 Jeffrey Martin 360cit...@gmail.com:
As I said already, do you want more people to help develop hugin?
offering them a way to actually USE the program (without spitting
vitriol about how they should compile the damn thing themselves) is
probably a good first step, no? :-)
No-one
Jeffrey Martin wrote:
All the time spent arguing about how lazy and useless people are (i'm
not naming any names here), the windows version could have been
compiled. Numerous times.
Ok then, please stop arguing and start your compiler ..
Regards
Stefan Peter
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Jeffrey Martin schrieb:
Why should Windows be treated any different?
ROTFL
because 90% of the people (and from them, people who might also become
DEVELOPERS of hugin) are there.
can it really get any simpler than that?
As I have mentioned in another thread, hugin is not about market
2009/11/15 Stefan Peter s_pe...@swissonline.ch
There is an ongoing discussion in the free software community regarding
the wisdom of porting free software to windows. Some take the position
that it hinders the goals of free software, others think it helps to
spread the word. However, it is
Erik Krause wrote:
As the 90% windows users do not seem to scratch, they do not feel the
itch. So why should others do the scratching for them?
That's not the point. The point is that after a long time someone
finally created a binary for windows and the self-appointed leader of
this list
At the moment I wanted to press send in reaction of Erik's mail, Stefan's
mail came in. His mail describes exactly what I also wanted to say (and I
dare say his mail was better than mine). It means that my mail can be much
shorter. I still write it to show that other people agree with Stefan's
Stefan Peter wrote:
Free software development means that you are free to have an opinion
and state it. It means that you don't have to agree on everything and
can't be forced to do or approve something if you don't want to. Your
critic would have been justified if Yuv had prohibited the
Hi Erik,
2009/11/15 Erik Krause erik.kra...@gmx.de
Sorry, it was not me who brought this discussion here. And it was Yuv
who was annoyed and accused me of demanding things, which is totally
nonsense in this case. I didn't demand anything, I expressed my
disappointment with the politics
2009/11/15 Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com
Just the simple fact that nobody takes the initiative to come forward as
volunteer is disappointing.
Again: thanks to those who already did a great job in building windows
binaries. It's just that there are obviously not enough builders.
2009/11/16 allard a...@allardkatan.net
Okay, before people start speculating about how I feel about Yuv's
comments on my installer or grossly misspelling my name (en dat van
een landgenoot, Harry!) maybe I should step in.
Hi Allard,
You are right. I'm sorry. I must have had a massive blind
Why should Windows be treated any different?
ROTFL
because 90% of the people (and from them, people who might also become
DEVELOPERS of hugin) are there.
can it really get any simpler than that?
:-)
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This reminds me of the scene in Fawlty Towers, when Basil is trying to
have a fire drill.
The burglar alarm goes off by mistake. And people think it's the fire
drill which starts in a few minutes. They spend so much time arguing
about it, that the fire drill is late. Meanwhile, Manuel
I agree, I think focus should be on making a solid software rather
than trying to change the world.
regards
mick
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On 11 Nov., 08:20, allard a...@allardkatan.net wrote:
C'mon guys. Spend your energy on solving bugs or something.
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On Nov 11, 10:32 am, anbue andreasbuett...@anbue.de wrote:
Thanks again, Allard.
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short-version
- It's a royal pain in the neck to build hugin for Windows (far worse
than for Linux, it seems)
- It might be worth subsidizing a bit more the non-techie artists
out there who use
On 11 nov, 13:05, Ryan scov...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Anybody can install cygwin, for free. I hear it's even possible to
set up a mingw32 cross-compiler on linux
I'm actually trying to get this working. Currently I have an Ubuntu
9.04 installation inside VirtualBox (on Windows host), and I'm
On Nov 11, 1:49 pm, Bart van Andel bavanan...@gmail.com wrote:
Before being able to compile Hugin, first the dependencies have to be
cross-compiled. The setup of mingw-cross-env makes this pretty easy: a
small script called name-of-library.mk has to be created with some
variables pointing to
Bart van Andel schrieb:
On 11 nov, 13:05, Ryan scov...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Anybody can install cygwin, for free. I hear it's even possible to
set up a mingw32 cross-compiler on linux
I'm actually trying to get this working.
...
If anybody else wants to contribute by helping build the
You might take a peek at the build files I uploaded [0], because they
include the patches and configuration options used to compile hugin
and its assorted dependencies (what is libplot, btw?).
I will. As far as I can see, most patches are for libraries which are
already part of
If anybody else wants to contribute by helping build the
dependencies, for example, please do!
I would like to participate here. Is there a homepage or a repository
where your current work is accessible?
Easiest thing to do: pull directly out of mingw-cross-env repository
(assuming you
- It's a royal pain in the neck to build hugin for Windows (far worse
than for Linux, it seems)
What's so complicated?
The most necessary libraries can be downloaded in pre-compiled form in
the SDK (http://wiki.panotools.org/Build_Hugin_for_Windows_with_SDK).
What's missing for current hugin
Built glut (actually, freeglut) as well, just now. Mail is underway to
Volker. So far he's been rather quick in replying, so I suspect it
won't take long before both lcms and freeglut will be integrated.
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On 11 nov, 17:34, Bart van Andel bavanan...@gmail.com wrote:
- Choose a
Easiest thing to do: pull directly out of mingw-cross-env repository
(assuming you want install it in /opt/mingw-cross-env):
$ cd /opt
$ hg clone http://hg.savannah.nongnu.org/hgweb/mingw-cross-envmingw-
cross-env
Forgot to mention: there are some dependencies... More on this here:
On Nov 10, 4:46 am, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
the following discussion was at [0] where it is off topic. It is
important here, hence the continuation:
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On Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 22:37, yuval_levy wrote:
On Nov 10, 4:46 am, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
the following discussion was at [0] where it is off topic. It is
important here, hence the continuation:
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On Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 22:37, yuval_levy wrote:
namklim wrote:
From a Windows user viewpoint I agree with Erik; the Win binary
distribution is a mess.
I don't disagree with the qualification of the Win binary distribution.
I disagree with the judgment of what the developers team does.
If you look at the number of downloads for v 0.7
Yuval Levy wrote:
Erik, If you think you can do better, go ahead and do it. You have all
the necessary information, tools, and accesses to distribute Hugin
differently.
Frankly I am annoyed. I know we have *different* views. I respect your
opinion. I do not accept your qualitative
Erik Krause wrote:
In other words and if you still didn't get it: I think you distract
people from using or even trying hugin.
maybe he's right?
good bye everybody, have fun with your new leader Erik.
Yuv
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C'mon guys. Spend your energy on solving bugs or something.
On Nov 10, 7:27 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
Erik Krause wrote:
In other words and if you still didn't get it: I think you distract
people from using or even trying hugin.
maybe he's right?
good bye everybody, have fun
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