At 14:13 -0400 on 09/13/2006, David Cole wrote about Re: Non-SMP/e packaging:
Because our maintenance is cumulative, not incremental.
- That means that the latest maintenance file always
contains all maintenance, not just the most recent.
A simple SUP (of all the prior Maintenance
At 16:15 -0400 on 09/13/2006, David Cole wrote about Re: Non-SMP/e packaging:
But SMP/E has a rather annoying restriction with respect to zap maintenance:
Only one ZAP can be applied to a module by a single
APPLY command. If you need to install several ZAPs for
a given module, each
At 14:28 -0600 on 09/13/2006, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re:
Non-SMP/e packaging:
Wouldn't SUPersede with element replacements accomplish the same
thing? (I know SUPersede is no good for ZAPs
Yes it is IF you just let the SUP insure that the VER would have
worked and just have the REPs in
Hi All,
Anyone know why the RECALL failed with NO primary volume availabel for
RECALL, I already add a new primary volume SAP4T3 with 3000 CYL but still
failed.
ARC1001I SSMD.BAZ.RMT6 RECALL FAILED, RC=0004, REAS=
ARC1104I NO PRIMARY VOLUME AVAILABLE FOR RECALL
HSEND LIST PRIMARY TERM
At 9/13/2006 04:28 PM, you wrote:
In a recent note, David Cole said:
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:13:56 -0400
At 9/13/2006 01:30 PM, TMerchant wrote:
But why does it require that previously received maintenance be
REJECTed and that previously APPLY'ed maintenance be RESTORed?
At 9/13/2006 03:32 PM, LRugen wrote:
I just did a quick count, I found 50 **.CSI.DATA files on my system. I
have to get to the CORRECT SMP/E CSI before I can answer questions about
proper maintenance levels. Maybe too many product installations start
with Create a new CSI
That's a good
Dave wrote on 14/09/2006 05:33:21 PM:
I just did a quick count, I found 50 **.CSI.DATA files on my system. I
have to get to the CORRECT SMP/E CSI before I can answer questions about
proper maintenance levels. Maybe too many product installations start
with Create a new CSI
That's a
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Wednesday, 09/13/2006 at 01:24 AST, Walter
Farrell/Poughkeepsie/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/13/2006 12:45 PM, McKown, John wrote:
Yes, they do. I didn't phrase it very well. My arthritis is acting up
big time and my typing is suffering. But they don't get any warning
At 9/13/2006 04:41 PM, MZelden wrote:
I'm still not clear on the advatage SMP/E gives to you or your
customers over a full IEBCOPY type replacement at each cumlative
maintenance level. The only thing I can see for sure is that it
would make auditors happy and shops that require SMP/E installed
Craig Otway wrote:
I need some RACF help. I have a large group of users that I would like for
their passwords to expire before the currently set date of ever 105 days(I know
that is a long time, but please don't go down that road). I do not want to
force everyone, just this group I can
DLI. NGDIA.)
... Huh?
Didn't like it.
Not gonna do it again.
When in doubt.
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Ted MacNEIL wrote:
It is not black magic, analysis is needed to the parts of OS being migrated.
And, who has the time (or the expertise) to do that analysis?
Or, do you plan on paying IBM to do it for you?
No, but I had to do it. Quite simple configuration, but out of
coexistence window.
At 9/13/2006 04:51 PM, PO'Keefe wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:35:40 -0400, David Cole wrote:
I guess I have to take strong exception to your characterization of
my suggestion as a misuse of SMP/E. ...
I agree with Arthur here. It souinds like your procedure just uses
SMP as a driver for
In case you need acceess to Return Codes of previous steps, I have a piece of
code (assembler) based in an REXX idea of THOMAS RAMSEIER i can send you.
If you need to access a wholw output you can use SDSF. There is an REXX from
Lionel B. Dyck to do that i don't remeber where it is, but
David Cole wrote:
At 9/13/2006 03:32 PM, LRugen wrote:
I just did a quick count, I found 50 **.CSI.DATA files on my system. I
have to get to the CORRECT SMP/E CSI before I can answer questions about
proper maintenance levels. Maybe too many product installations start
with Create a new
Hi All,
I found the problem becuase I forgot to add the NON-SMS managed volume using
ADDVOL after IPL.
Many thanks
tommy
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At 9/14/2006 04:40 AM, PGillis wrote:
Dave, your maintenance strategy of restore prior to apply, could
better be served by a single maintenance sysmod that contains all
prior maintenance and SUPS all the potentially applied and accepted
sysmods. Someone else may have suggested that during this
At 9/14/2006 05:00 AM, BDissen wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:32:28 -0400 David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:At 9/13/2006 07:36 PM, SMetz wrote:
:On 09/13/2006 at 02:13 PM, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
:Because our maintenance is cumulative, not incremental.
:- That means that all
Use of MTL is also an option. It avoids JCL changes, ICF Catalog changes,
and makes it easy to get volumes mounted on suitable drives.
Mike Wood RMM Development
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:26:31 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings to all.
We are trying to dump our 3480
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006
at 03:15 AM, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Right. My maintenance is in the for of ZAPs.
And *that* is what is broken. Cumulative service should be PTF or
FUNCTION, and ZAP is appropriate only for APAR and USERMOD. If you're
relying on zaps for routine
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006
at 12:00 PM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I do not understand why you need to do a RESTORE as part of the
process.
Because he's using zaps where they're inappropriate.
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006
at 04:32 AM, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm sorry, Shmuel, but your assertion, No it doesn't is a bit like
asserting that two plus two does not equal four.
No, it's stationg the blunt facts.
I think I've explained quite adequately in my prior
snip
I guess I have to take strong exception to your characterization of
my suggestion as a misuse of SMP/E. Yes, it is different than
normal, but my process suggestions offer significant benefits both
to the vendor and the customer for those products whose installation
requirements are simple
Hi,
Software AG have a product called Entire System Server . One of it's
functionalities is to read JES2 spool files. The latest versions use the
SAPI SSI interface 79 etc. and spool files for running batch jobs can be
accessed.
Have you tried it and it failed ?
David Lesser
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:33:21 -0400, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 9/13/2006 03:32 PM, LRugen wrote:
I just did a quick count, I found 50 **.CSI.DATA files on my system. I
have to get to the CORRECT SMP/E CSI before I can answer questions about
proper maintenance levels. Maybe too many
BDissen wrote:
You are packaging your refresh tape incorrectly.
SMetz wrote:
And *that* is what is broken.
PO'Keefe wrote:
To those already familiar with SMP this could look like a marketting
gimick [sic], just allowing you to say We use SMP.
RRosenberg wrote:
Next Strawman excuse
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Hello list,
I have had a couple of emails asking me for details, so although I think
Compuware UK customers should have received this from their account
managers, a quick reminder blast...
Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less
sexist back when people cared. Chairperson was awkward and this seemed to
work for some. It has persisted since then, despite the fact that making
people into inanimate objects may actually seem more offensive to some.
I know some people who are essentially inanimate objects. Me, before I have
had my coffee, for instance.
Jon
snip
Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less
sexist back when people cared. Chairperson was awkward and this seemed to
work for some. It has
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snip
Incorrectly? Broken? Marketing gimmick? Strawman excuse? [sigh]
snip
Religion
In a recent note, Paul Gillis said:
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:40:12 +1000
I don't have a problem with multiple CSIs as long as there a a minimum
of Global CSIs. At a previous client, we had only 1 Global CSI, with
one or two CSIs per vendor/product. The Target/DLIB CSI naming
Hi David,
Thanks for your response! I shouldn't say that it failed, the called
returned with I believe a return code 4 that means (I think) no data to
process. I thought I read in the Redbook that spool files are only
considered to be available when the job has completed, at least that what I
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:25:33 -0500, Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use of MTL is also an option. It avoids JCL changes, ICF Catalog changes,
and makes it easy to get volumes mounted on suitable drives.
Yes, a Manual Tape Library would be a good answer but it is a heck of a lot
of work to
I'm trying to get my head round what is needed to be set up for the Unicode
Conversion Services for DB2 and Enterprise COBOL. Can someone in the UK
give me a look at the source they have to create the conversion images for
code pages 285 and/or 1146.
TIA
Jim McAlpine
OK, putting it another way, this is what I've got -
CASE NORMAL; /* ENABLE TOUPPER AND TOLOWER */
CONVERSION 01146,00367,ER;
CONVERSION 01146,01200,ER;
CONVERSION 01146,01208,ER;
CONVERSION 00367,01146,ER;
CONVERSION 01200,01146,ER;
CONVERSION
On 14 Sep 2006 06:44:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the
position sound less sexist back when people cared.
My 1953 Webster's 2nd gives presiding officer as
one of the
I've done a lot of analysis on the 3480 in the last couple of days. We
have things like files extending to 15 reels or tapes with up to 20 files
stacked on them. I think we're going to use an esoteric of SYS3480R to
allow them to be read on the 3490s, but no more writes on the 3480s.
Daniel
Chairs, chairpersons, sponsors, speakers, and pundits aside, maybe it's
time for SHARE to virtualize.
A company could opt for a video conference into a specific session, or
sessions, and pay a usage fee.
Between travel costs and extra security measures, it is getting quite
costly, isn't it?
Arthur T wrote...
For instance, how does the attendance match up with
prior years, especially those years when dinosaurs ruled
the world?
Some of the old sysprogs around here say that 5,000+ was the norm for the
west coast meetings in the 1970-1980's. Then it tapered off to 2,000+
after that.
John,
Actually, as in almost all statistics, there are numbers and there are
numbers. The 1100 number represents the number of full week paid
attendance. I believe the total attendance, which counts partial week,
etc., was slightly over 2,000, which is what the other numbers you
mentioned
Might want to try your test again and post the results. I routinely use
IDCAMS to perform initial loads.
That said, I have worked with applications that can not / will not
tolerate an empty file. They have their own 'priming' or formatting
program to prepare the file for use. For example, the
That came later; I used it to invoke DSS.
Good old DSS (Dynamic something Subsystem, what was the something,
Seymour?).
It took control of the whole system and let you enter commands to do all
sorts of debugging, if you took the time to learn it
I used it a few times, but it was probably
Bernie,
You might want to look at DAF (Dataset Audit Facility) on the CBT tape. Go to
www.cbttape.org
Easy to install, works like a charm.
From: Wilkinson, Bernie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 9/14/2006 11:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Using
Perhaps not a VSAM issue, but one of application
re-engineering.
Thanks for your input.
--- Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Might want to try your test again and post the
results. I routinely use
IDCAMS to perform initial loads.
That said, I have worked with applications that can
No, you've explained the *other* things that you do that cause the
problem. The fact that others have been shipping cumulative service
for decades without requiring a restore is enough to demonstrate that
the claim is nonsense. The cause is not cumulative service but your
use of zaps for the
You can also use some of the programs from file 529 on the CBT tape. You
will also need file 527 for a routine or two.
There are programs to report on 14,15, 17,18, 30, and the 60's versions.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:42:33 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bernie,
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:25:09 -0500, Tom Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, what exactly was the bad press Baltimore received on this
list? I thought SHARE was vibrant and full of excellent sessions.
Perhaps it had something to do with not being able to take toothpaste
in your carry-on
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:07:57 -0400, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14 Sep 2006 06:44:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the
position sound less sexist back when people cared.
Jim McAlpine wrote:
OK, putting it another way, this is what I've got -
CASE NORMAL; /* ENABLE TOUPPER AND TOLOWER */
CONVERSION 01146,00367,ER;
CONVERSION 01146,01200,ER;
CONVERSION 01146,01208,ER;
CONVERSION 00367,01146,ER;
CONVERSION
Hallo,
I have to remove a volume from a SMS. It is the only volume in that storage
group. I set up some steps to do the process. Can you please tell me if I have
skipped anything?
- Remove DSN reference from the filter list of the STORAGE CLASS
- Remove DSN reference from the
If it is the only volume in the Storage Group, then you need to remove any
reference to that Storage Group in Storage Group ACS routine.
From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 9/14/2006 12:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS Question :
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:32:55 -0500, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... Maybe too many product installations start
with Create a new CSI
...
Maybe too many product installers blindly follow those instructions rather
than seeing what the real requirements/constraints are. They probably
Jim,
just do what we done. Try on error.
Both DB2 and Enterprise Cobol will give you very
nice msg if you miss some conversation entries.
Well CTS 3.1 isn't that smart but it was almost two
years ago. Perhaps there are some changes since GA.
Just add them and acticate the new image on the
Remember with z/OS R7 these tables are build automaticly
(TCB caller not DB2). With z/OS R8 it works on the fly
for all (TCB and SRB caller)
Roland
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Sent: Thursday, September 14,
I have to remove a volume from a SMS. It is the only volume in that storage
group. I set up some steps to do the process. Can you please tell me if I have
skipped anything?
- Remove DSN reference from the filter list of the STORAGE CLASS
- Remove DSN reference from the DATA CLASS
I guess I'm behind.. not unusual.. When we use the new SIS feature on
IBMLINK and are looking for a particular PTF, if we use the APAR PTF, it says
not found. If we use the search argument, it only shows in the eknowledge
base... and you can only order it. We just want to read a description
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On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:02:23 -0500, Ed Gould
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I would suggest that you decline the request and say that since CA-1
interacts and is IBM module dependent it is in the best interest of
all parties to be in a deliverable
Make sure you have the correct Libraries selected at the bottom of the
page:
Libraries
zSeries, z/OS
VM, VSE, and related products
xSeries and miscellaneous products
iSeries and pSeries
Program products
CAD/CAM products
I usually just select
Your java app could issue the HTTP request. There are classes built to
do this.
Any examples of this type of code, anyone? Or where I can read up on it?
Thanks,
Larry
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If you are looking for a particular PTF, use the View Documents
button, not the Search APAR/PTF button. Select APARs and PTFs,
then enter the specific APAR or PTF you want. Boom, there it is. Even
has an ORDER button.
--
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Senior Software Developer for FDR
Innovation Data
For some reason (that I have never understood), IBM treats this as for
internal use only. If you look at:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ceea1170/2.2.3.4.
3
It says,
The FCB, FIB, and GMAREA are control blocks used for COBOL file
processing. These control blocks
Mainframers,
Maybe it`s not a CA7 problem because since we have upgraded to zOS 1.7,
we are having some slowdown with ControlM too.
Apparently ControlM is taking too long to submit.
With zOS 1.7 there is no need to specify RDINUM at INTRDR statment and
i would like to know how it works.
Do we
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The REQs are indicated for a good reason. It would be best to get those
REQs before continuing.
Don Imbriale
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I'm not an ISPF expert. I receive some mails to provide more display
in SHOWzoS for ISPF. I learned a lot in the last days but still far away from
a general solution to touch the real TCB to access the TLDn.
What is the best way to access the TLD while invoking via TSO CALL 'xxx(yyy)'
BTW:
I can only tell you I received the same question several times
for COBANAL but I refuse this unless IBM made this public.
It took to much time to investigate the layout and keep it up to date.
Therefor I gave up. Perhaps a comercial product could handle this.
Roland
-Original
If the volume actually exists, you may want to move any data sets from
it to a different SMS volume and reinitialize the volume as a non-SMS
volume.
By the way, the DSN references in the SC and DC routines doesn't have
any general relationship to the volume (though you may have it set up so
a
Our business intelligence people have stated that they need to be able
to get real-time or near-real time updates to a number of VSAM datasets
into their Sun/Oracle system. This would be from CICS and batch jobs.
Anybody know of a product to do this? They mentioned something called
DataMirror
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:33:27 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think his draconian restriction has pushed the envelope of trying to
understand discourse.
Uncalled for!
His list serve: his rules.
You don't like it; unsubscribe.
...
Add to that, one person's draconian restriction
On Thursday 14 September 2006 15:43, Schiradin,Roland wrote:
What is the best way to access the TLD while invoking
via TSO CALL 'xxx(yyy)'
The FASTPATH program in file 183 manages to locate the TLD no matter how
it was invoked. Look at the code.
--
Gilbert Saint-Flour
GSF Software
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:29:45 -0700, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What procedures is normal. Should I BYPASS COREQ and IFREQ and receive
and apply them or receive and apply the COREQs and IFREQS before
the CBPDO tape.
You should *never* bypass REQs. If there are REQs that are available
This may involve the implementation of VSAM RLS, DFSMStvs, and perhaps
another product that we are testing right now, called Power Exchange
from Informatica.
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This may involve the implementation of VSAM RLS, DFSMStvs, and
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:19:33 -0400, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
As to coordinating maintenance, as I've already stated in this
thread that z/XDC resolves its dependency issues at execution time,
not at installation time. So there is no need for z/XDC to coordinate
maintenance with
It is a bit complicated. The request was to remove the volume from SMS and add
that same volume to CA-ALLOCATE. That is why I cannot direct any of the alias
some place else
Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the volume actually exists,
you may want to move any data sets from
it
Don't have a SMF User Guide. Need the JCL Procedure to accomplish.
Go to the IBM Document Library Site.
Open/download the document.
Read it.
JCL won't find it for you.
You need a programme.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
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At 07:50 -0600 on 09/14/2006, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re:
Non-SMP/e packaging:
In a recent note, Robert A. Rosenberg said:
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:01:51 -0400
of VERs issue OR just do the the ZAP on YOUR Maintenance copy and
ship that APAR as a MOD not a ZAP.
MODs in PTFs
At 08:05 -0600 on 09/14/2006, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re:
Non-SMP/e packaging:
In a recent note, Binyamin Dissen said:
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:00:31 +0300
Assuming that you do it as a FUNCTION, you REWORK it and then
simply update
the SUP list and specify RMIDs/UNIDs on
At 11:25 -0500 on 09/14/2006, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: SHARE attendance:
I took Tom's original comment about talking furniture to be an
attempt at humor.
And it was the funniest thing I'd seen in a while. It was a good thing
I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when I read it!
Tom
I'm in the process of converting our production batch load libraries from
PDS's to PDSE's. The PDS's are currently in the LINKLIST and in our case
are also managed by LLA. It seems like I tried adding PDSE's to the LLA
years ago and I found they were hanging LLA refreshes (which hung the whole
To IBM-MAIN and (old) LNGC distribution lists
IEEE has been working on a new (draft) floating-point specification that
includes DECIMAL floating-point. IBM has been involved in this and I would
expect either software and/or hardware support in the OS (and eventually
some compilers) sooner than
It has become apparent to us that the large block interface (LBI) for
tape data sets does not appear to be supported by IDCAMS nor DF/SORT. I
can find no reference in the documentation of these products for it.
What could be the reasoning behind this?
Tom Harper
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snip
Tom might be a fan of Piers Anthony's Xanth Fantasy series where in
the
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:13:39 -0500, Tom Harper wrote:
It has become apparent to us that the large block interface (LBI) for
tape data sets does not appear to be supported by IDCAMS nor DF/SORT. I
can find no reference in the documentation of these products for it.
Maybe you weren't looking in
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:06:44 -0700, Steve Pordash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi David,
Thanks for your response! I shouldn't say that it failed, the called
returned with I believe a return code 4 that means (I think) no data to
process.
SAPI (SSI 79) can only 'see' spool data that has gone thru
Tom,
Thanks! I searched using Large Block Interface and LBI, the usually
keywords for this...
Tom
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Tom Harper wrote on 09/14/2006 03:13:39 PM:
It has become apparent to us that the large block interface (LBI) for
tape data sets does not appear to be supported by IDCAMS nor DF/SORT. I
can find no reference in the documentation of these products for it.
What could be the reasoning behind
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:22 PM
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Subject: Re: IDCAMS and DF/SORT support for LBI
snip
LBI is limited to tapes, not DASD. (Too bad - I would like to
Tom Schmidt wrote:
LBI is limited to tapes, not DASD. (Too bad - I would like to see the 3390
geometry disposed of at long last. 3390's track length is getting
cramped.)
This has nothing to do with 3390 (which has a track size of 56664). The
restriction of 32760 is an old one, and is
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:37:05 -0500, George Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
... Is there any problem for me to convert
these plain old PDS loadlibs to PDSE's which would be in the LINKLIST and
LLA We currently have PDSE's in our CICSRPL concatenations and don't
seem to have any problems.
Tom Harper wrote on 09/14/2006 03:24:00 PM:
Thanks! I searched using Large Block Interface and LBI, the usually
keywords for this...
We refer to it by the function name of Larger Tape Block Sizes, rather
than LBI which is the interface name (that is, the way the support is
provided). Just
The one thing I ran into several releases ago (maybe as far back as 2.10) was
that freed space wasn't reclaimed as long as XCFAS and LLA had the
dataset allocated (or maybe open?).
OPEN.
And, it's not a LINK LIST issue.
It's PDSE.
For example, you have a CICS RPL, or an IMS RES, that is shared
The only reason I was considering the conversion was to reduce compresses
also. If this is true, there would be no reason for me to convert the LLA
managed load libraries to PDSE's. Does anyone know for sure?? Also, we are at
z/OS 1.7 and currently take the defaults for PDSE_LRUTIME = 60,
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said:
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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Does this affect the entire PDSE, or only those members for which
a FIND has been done.
Only those members for which an active connection still exists.
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Los Angeles, CA 90045
Ed,
I hope that clients don't feel we are starting to backslide, and would be
willing to discuss offline any comments they may have. And I do appreciate
the kind words. However, CA-1 does still support NSL tapes for those clients
that want to use them. To be honest, I haven't seen any clients
Bruce,
That brings up the whole discussion of what is better for maintenance, zaps
or csect-replacements. CA-1 (and TLMS and other BrightStor products) all
switched to csect-replacements instead of zap's after the Sterling
acquisition (who acquired who is still a subject open to discussion). With
Frank,
Thanks for your response. I will save the link.
I have more information than I had earlier. A colleague was trying to
read a VB large block tape data set, and it was failing. Their comment
to me was that LBI did not work with DF/SORT. When I couldn't find
anything (due to the difference
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