Re: Enable TCP/IP function in mainframe

2007-08-04 Thread Timothy Sipples
A policy of we don't enable TCP/IP on our mainframe for security reasons inevitably results in...less security. :-( Yes, if you put all your corporate information in a vault and send it to the deepest trench in the bottom of a major ocean, your information will be secure. It will also be

Re: How old are you?

2007-08-04 Thread Steve Comstock
Gary Green wrote: You're only as young, or old, as you feel. So Steve, how old do you feel? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How

Re: Enable TCP/IP function in mainframe

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:29:21 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A policy of we don't enable TCP/IP on our mainframe for security reasons inevitably results in...less security. :-( Hear hear! Yet many shops refuse to use what they are paying for. There are plenty of solutions to

Re: IBMLink Web interface - SEV1 # 32669880, 1 August 2007

2007-08-04 Thread Mike Liberatore
I guess the CEO and the rest of the executive board are actually coding? Chase, John wrote: So, what else is new? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Closing VSAM File

2007-08-04 Thread Amlan Prasad
Suppose program 'A' is processing a VSAM file and abends in middle. What happens to the VSAM file? Will it be closed automatically? If by chance the file is not closed properly because of the abend is there a way or utility by the VSAM can be closed explicitly from outside so that it is

Re: OMVS

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
For those willing to be less specific about terminology and still want to understand the answer- There is no port sharing, the combination of ipaddress:port is unique to an application. In order to share ipaddress:port the two applications vying to receive the packets coming inbound would have

Re: Distance between primary and DR site

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Flooding is different than a river overflowing its banks. Flooding can occur by heavy rains in an area where the water can not drain out as quick as it comes in. The oceans are not going to overflow their banks as sea level is deemed to be the place where water flows down to, they can rise as

Re: HSM and offsite logging -- An HSM question

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I was recently discussing how to get more frequent migration for some datasets and heard the answer is to run another HSM task. Alternatively, consider writing a job that issues the migration command for those special datasets before the normal migration time. That gets them earlier in the

Re: Why is not AIX ported to z/Series?

2007-08-04 Thread William Richter
I guess I did not adequately qualify my original question...let me try again... Why doesn't IBM create a special purpose engine, similar to the IFL, for AIX. Lets call it an IFA. Would not AIX running on a zSeriers special purpose engines generate benefits similar to Linux on IFL's.

Re: Unicode Code Dynamic Table Loading

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
It seemed to me that UNICODE on DEMAND and having DB2 load a monster table for me is not really on DEMAND, that is letting something else way more than I need. I have ADD,FROM=37,TO=1208,TECH=R in a PARMLIB(CUNUNIxx) member. After running for a week I issue d uni,all and there are very few

Re: VSAM Linear Dataset n00b question

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Seems to me that DIV means Data in Virtual, not you reading a linear dataset. Persistent would imply to me the service handles reading/writing the data you access using the DIV macros. I would not expect the contents of the linear dataset to be handled with VSAM macros, just like DB2 using

Re: COBOL Group moves

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I vote Rashmi compiles his code, runs it, and learns from his experience. On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:17:03 -0400, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for abend S0C7 on MOVE N2 TO N4. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/01/2007 07:15:30 AM: Hi, I have a query

Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Your advice is worth what he paid for it. Perhaps your post would be more helpful if you told us what reasons you considered to draw your conclusion. My objection, and reason for using an EDIT macro, is the integrity of the ISPF statistics. A limited yet still useful audit trail. On Fri, 3 Aug

Re: Why is not AIX ported to z/Series?

2007-08-04 Thread Rich Smrcina
There already is hardware that will run AIX, it's called System p. I doubt that there would be much traction to get AIX back on System z. The focus is Linux. William Richter wrote: I guess I did not adequately qualify my original question...let me try again... Why doesn't IBM create a

Re: Anybody have an IPCS clist to disassemble?

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
The IPCS REXX way (I divorced clists years ago) would have you walk through the storage and use OPCODE to learn what instruction is being used. LIST INSTRUCTION looks to answer what you wanted better. Although armed with the Principles of Operations manual and time you could write a CLIST to do

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ORIGINIAL VOLUME VOLSER PRIOR TO ML2 MIGRATION

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Open discussion: your post tells us where it was backed up from but the OP stated migrated from. The end result might be the same field but please be specific to migration. We are all users at one time or another and users are never wrong! Confused and mistaken, yes. One only has to roll back

Re: Closing VSAM File

2007-08-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- Suppose program 'A' is processing a VSAM file and abends in middle. What happens to the VSAM file? Will it be closed automatically? If by chance the file is not closed properly because of the abend is there a way or utility by the VSAM can be

Re: Web access to mainframe datasets

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
PAUSE, there is no reason CICS will cease, as in ABEND. In fact, CICS REXX uses regular PDS datasets and the region does not die. If response time for multiple concurrent users is not an issue QSAM technically works. Although there are better ways for preceived concurrent access. On Wed, 1

Re: Closing VSAM File

2007-08-04 Thread Ron Hawkins
Amaln, VSAM imlicitly does a VERIFY as part of OPEN. Is the program with the ABEND actually abending, or are you just getting the messages saying the file was left opened (the messages are from verify). Perhaps you should post the messages or the abend info. Ron -Original Message-

Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
That really depends on the abilities of the creator. From the Dirty Harry movies - A good man knows his limitations. If the authors of XDC and Xpediter truly found it that hard we would not have those products. Nor Strobe, nor z/OS. On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:46:25 -0400, David Cole [EMAIL

Re: Quoting Style

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Feel guilty if the admonisher has never posted anything with less than 100% accuracy and so completely simple to understand that the thread required no further discussion. The rest of us are human. Sounds like you realize the point and learned from his suggestion so move on as the better

Re: Closing VSAM File

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I have seen programs get a non-zero return in the filestatus from open (maybe 4 indicating prior access abended) and choose to abend themselves even though the implicit VERIFY was done. In that case, the external pre- verify is the shortcut to not changing the source to allow a 4 on open. I

Re: STC number for MASTER asid

2007-08-04 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
If there are no openings then there is nothing to handle. When there are things to handle then there are openings. It does not compute that there are no openings and you handle it locally. ;- On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:22:09 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: to the one

Re: Quoting Style

2007-08-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip I recently received an off-list message admonishing me for an incorrect attribution. I grant that I trimmed hastily, but I don't know how guilty I should feel. The lines I misattributed appeared in a message from the misattributee,

Re: How old are you?

2007-08-04 Thread Gary Green
Yeah... I know exactly what you mean... I've spent the past two years trying to get back to that 20's body; which I never had in the first place. However, I will settle for a 30's or even 40's version. ;) Jeez! I turned 63 in March. I _can't_ be the oldest guy on the list, can I? Ah,

Why is HSA so ridiculous on a z9 at z/OS V1R8?

2007-08-04 Thread Pinnacle
The HSA on our 9672 running OS/390 V2R10 is a whopping 64M, compared to 1344M on the z9 at z/OS V1R8. We eliminated the DYNAMIC attribute on 1024 DASD devices, and that dropped HSA to 1024M. WTF is HSA so ridiculously large on the current hardware/software, for essentially the same I/O

Re: OMVS

2007-08-04 Thread Chris Mason
Kenneth Unfortunately you snipped off the part which contained Mark's original question and hence your post doesn't make as much sense as it could - however specific or non-specific about terminology! The missing question was as follows: quote So if I opened a dos window on my win-doze

Re: VSAM Linear Dataset n00b question

2007-08-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:10:51 +0200 Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I must be having bad luck today with docs and googling. :Is it possible to access VSAM linear data sets without going through the :DIV macros? By using VSAM macros? :I have to admit a bit of confusion. When I look at

Re: Why is HSA so ridiculous on a z9 at z/OS V1R8?

2007-08-04 Thread Brian Peterson
HSA has been getting significantly larger over recent generations of zSeries hardware. The first significant bump was z900 to z990, where z990 was quite a bit larger HSA than z900. The z9-EC Technical Guide (SC24-7124) includes the following statement: -=-=-=-=- Note: The size of the HSA on

Re: Anybody have an IPCS clist to disassemble?

2007-08-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:01:11 -0500 Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :The IPCS REXX way (I divorced clists years ago) would have you walk through :the storage and use OPCODE to learn what instruction is being used. LIST :INSTRUCTION looks to answer what you wanted better. Although armed

Re: Theft of spindles was Re: PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.

2007-08-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Aug 2007 23:33:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Clark, Could this really be a true story? The few boxes that attach to mainframes would have triggered a SIM the moment someone unlatched and pulled the drive - a highlighted, non-scrolling error message on the console. The

Re: Theft of spindles was Re: PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.

2007-08-04 Thread Clark F Morris
On 2 Aug 2007 02:24:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Ron Hawkins wrote: Clark, Could this really be a true story? The few boxes that attach to mainframes would have triggered a SIM the moment someone unlatched and pulled the drive - a highlighted, non-scrolling error message on

Distance between primary and DR site

2007-08-04 Thread David Boyes
The Pacific Ocean is nearby, I guess we'll have to build the DR where? On the Moon !! *That* would be a serious DR site ! Well, you have to admit that it does have no common points of failure. 8-) As far as Brian's concerned, I'd suggest Canberra or Alice Springs. Not quite the

File transfer(NDM) and DFHSM Recall

2007-08-04 Thread Mohd Shahrifuddin
Dear Lister, I have situation where is recall in progress(NDM fire transfer request) and recall in Queue. At the same time my automigration backup is started. Question: 1. What happen to my recall? 2. What happen to my CDS backup? 3. What happen to NDM file transfer? Display GRS show:

Re: File transfer(NDM) and DFHSM Recall

2007-08-04 Thread Andy White
Is it really NDM your running or connect direct? If its connect direct there is an exit DMGALRCL for HSM recalls. Do you have it on the system? Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/04/2007 08:53:34 PM: Dear Lister, I

Re: Why is not AIX ported to z/Series?

2007-08-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:33:40 -0500, William Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I did not adequately qualify my original question...let me try again... Why doesn't IBM create a special purpose engine, similar to the IFL, for AIX. Lets call it an IFA. Would not AIX running on a zSeriers

Re: Distance between primary and DR site

2007-08-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 19:40:11 -0400 David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : The Pacific Ocean is nearby, I guess we'll have to build the DR :where? : On the Moon !! : *That* would be a serious DR site ! :Well, you have to admit that it does have no common points of failure. :8-) I take it