Just my €0.02:
1. It is money waste to pay IBM for support of the drives. IBM does NOT
want to support those drives, so their prices are really high. There are
independent companies which can support those drives. If you want really
quick fix time, then ...simply use another drive as a hot
. . .
2. In fact blocksize DOESN'T MATTER. What matters is the block cannot be
share between members. In PDS you can have many small member occupying
single block. In PDSE any member takes *at least* one block.
No block in a PDS can contain more than one member. In a PDS any member also
takes at
Barbara,
Puh, how do I go about finding this out? If any of this is specified in
the
IGDSMS member, then we take whatever default IBM set. And these things
apparently don't *have* storage class, management class or dataclass. I
just
tested, and they end up on hte volumes they do because I
And, HFS is a form of PDSE.
What does it mean exactly?
The internal structure is almost exactly the same as a PDSE.
The differences are subtle, such as supporting UNIX-style names.
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. . .
In a PDS
any member also
takes at least one block, but there can be short blocks (less than BLKSIZE).
Well, to be precise, any non-empty member of a PDS takes at least one block
(and an EOF block). An empty member has only the
That's what I was wondering about. The default for
PDSE_HSP_SIZE|HSP_SIZE(nnn) is 0, and according to the Manual 0 disables
PDSE Member Caching.
I'll try to get this set for tomorrow's IPL on the second of the two systems
that are affected. I'll start with 500M. On the other, I will start my
And one (emulated) block gap.
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Yes, I know that but tend to forget it...
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Charles Mills wrote:
Is there a way to determine if a DD statement has been allocated DUMMY,
short of SVC 99 info retrieval?
Sometimes I use the minimum call type of the DEVTYPE macro,
and test for zeros being returned, as per the DFSMSdfp
Advanced Services manual.
To be pedantic, I suppose I
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:20:34 -0600, Barbara Nitz wrote:
That's what I was wondering about. The default for
PDSE_HSP_SIZE|HSP_SIZE(nnn) is 0, and according to the Manual 0 disables
PDSE Member Caching.
I'll try to get this set for tomorrow's IPL on the second of the two systems
that are affected.
Ted MacNeil writes:
You're missing one that I've seen missed all the time.
Unless it's a work-alike, you have the (one-time) cost
of re-training.
I disagree (a little). I think retraining is not missed very often at all,
but it gets expressed (incorrectly, opaquely) as I don't ever want to
change
In PDS you can have many small member occupying single block.
Not true! Each member has its own TTR.
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:38:46 +0100
From: r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
Subject: Re: PDS vs. PDSE
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Eric Bielefeld pisze:
I just tried allocating
HI,
I support now the 3390 EAV emulation.
You can download the code and test the emulation.
No quick start video is needed because no special actions required.
See for the documentation for instructions.
There are 2 download files now, the regular and the beta.
The beta code is with
PDSEs without a storage class are not cached in hiperspace:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/TIPS0567.html?Open
(Ensure that SMS-managed PDSEs are associated with storage classes that
have appropriate MSR settings. (Note that PDSE data sets shipped as part of
the operating system are
Shai,
You mean the beta code of what ?
2010/2/12 Shai Hess shai.h...@gmail.com
HI,
I support now the 3390 EAV emulation.
You can download the code and test the emulation.
No quick start video is needed because no special actions required.
See for the documentation for instructions.
Yes. Only one beta code.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com wrote:
Shai,
You mean the beta code of what ?
2010/2/12 Shai Hess shai.h...@gmail.com
HI,
I support now the 3390 EAV emulation.
You can download the code and test the emulation.
No
If the file transfer is for purposes of application integration (or
similar), then I would (often) suggest an application interface of some
sort as an alternative. Since the platform currently receiving the files is
Microsoft Windows, then presumably Windows-friendly interfaces such as Web
Might it be a workload problem , what are your service levels for those
batch jobs, is there a cpu or other resource contraint , is there workload
capping ? Is your WLM setup correct ? There must be more information to
gather. Have a look in the windows event log etc.
2010/2/12 גדי בן אבי
For what product ?
2010/2/12 shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com
Yes. Only one beta code.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Shai,
You mean the beta code of what ?
2010/2/12 Shai Hess shai.h...@gmail.com
HI,
I support now the 3390 EAV
MFNetDisk.
www.mfnetdisk.com
Shai
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com wrote:
For what product ?
2010/2/12 shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com
Yes. Only one beta code.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Shai,
Barbara,
Your email address bounced. I'd be happy to look at this offline with you.
It would be interesting to check the before and after stats.
Ron
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Barbara,
Yes it is a confusing subject. The MSR value was there at day one with PDSE.
It had to set to 3ms whereas must cache was 6ms for 3390-3 or smaller as I
recall. There was a bug that disabled this, but then it was returned.
We'll wait and see if some of those presentations match what is
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* Any sensible business case analysis
Most weird! I just did the REXX below from the ISPF TSO prompt (option 6) and
got zeroes.
/* REXX */
xx=listdsi(sysexec file)
say xx=xx sysreason=sysreason
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And he would probably say, as I would, that training ought not be a one-time
cost.
Training existing staff is a one-time cost.
There is often continuing education, staff turnover, etc.
I would have that requirement, regardless of which product I would be using.
And, I might get lucky and hire
On 11 Feb 2010 20:44:37 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
No one seems to have pointed out that even for large members requiring
more than 4 KiB there is more wasted space for PDSE than for a PDS:
Since all space allocation is in 4KiB blocks, one should expect on
average 50% of the last
Ok thanks, Dave and John
I have matching directory structures to you guys, and the perl and php ones
have content, but I can see no sign of any ssh stuff anywhere that it's
supposed to be.
Think I'll junk it all and start again..
Thanks again.
Brian
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Ok thanks, Dave and John
I have matching directory structures to you guys, and the perl and php ones
have content, but I can
see no sign of any ssh stuff anywhere that it's supposed to be.
Think I'll
From the Rexx Reference on LISTDSI.
filename the name of an allocated file (ddname) about which you want to
retrieve information.
file you must specify the word FILE if you specify filename instead
of data-set-name. If you do not specify FILE, LISTDSI assumes
PMFJI here, but the facts that Media Manager underlies these new (FSVO
new) file technologies and that Media Manager is page-oriented in its
use of disk storage *could* be taken as a sign (however faint and
clouded) that IBM is (ver-r-ry slowly) moving towards direct support of
FBA in z/OS,
John et al.
//HFS DD PATH='/aaa.bbb.ccc',...
Xx=listdsi(hfs file)
What I want back is /aaa.bbb.ccc
I wrote a little REXXX listfinm function that does that.
Alan
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generalization It's a sad reality that many application programmers have
little interest in technology. For them, programming is merely a unpleasant
job that they have to endure until they are promoted higher up the ladder to
become analysts or managers. My advice to any sysprog who wants to
Thanks a lot for the explanation about the calculation, it worked.
See you.
Enrique
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I want to dynamically allocate my own sort work files. If I know how large
my input file is (I can read the catalog), then what would everyone
recommend for the allocation of the sort work files? How many datasets are
optimal? If my input file is 100 cylinders, for example, would you allocate
3
Last I heard, (and I may have heard wrong), optimum sort performance for
modern sorts (DFSORT, SYNCSORT,...) was obtained with (if possible) 3
SORTWKxx files. I would imagine (without backup information) that each
SORTWKxx file should be large enough (again if possible) to hold the
entire input
There are overheads associated with sorting that get written to SORTWK. They
vary by sort (DFSORT/SYNCSORT/CASORT) and by type (Variable/fixed length
records) and by size and by key size and type, so it is difficult to say input
filesize + 10% or 20% or more.
The sort products, at least
In listserv%201002110930340513.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/11/2010
at 09:30 AM, Victor Gil victor@broadridge.com said:
IEANTRT is documented to NOT change registers R2-R13, so their slots in
the passed savearea can be used to format the required parameter list.
Not unless it's also
In 013801caab27$c57da320$5078e9...@org, on 02/11/2010
at 06:37 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Is there a way to determine if a DD statement has been allocated DUMMY,
short of SVC 99 info retrieval?
Before OPEN, use DEVTYPE or look in the TIOT.
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In 1265899827.22396.879.ca...@chuck.duda.com, on 02/11/2010
at 09:50 AM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said:
There is a lucid discussion of the issue on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
You mean where it says The ISO C standard states that time_t must be an
snip
Now, if you insist upon allocating them yourself, a first cut is at
least 3 SORTWKS and the total size should be input filesize + 30%. I
would also put a 10% secondary allocation size, for example
SPACE=(CYL,(100,10)).
/snip
IASTR the SORTWKxx cannot span volumes (at least in the case of
Right you are. I was not attempting to be complete in my description, but that
is one thing that is consistent across the sort products, no multi-volume
SORTWK files, so UNIT=(SYSDA,2) is OUT.
As I said, let the sort products do the allocation for you. 99.999% of the
time they get it
For DFSORT, we generally recommend 4 work data sets. I have done testing
with varied numbers of work data sets and not seen much variance in
performance until you start allocating very large numbers of work data sets
for small sorts.Also, I would recommend that you allocate total space
of
Larry Crilley wrote:
I want to dynamically allocate my own sort work files. If I know how large
my input file is (I can read the catalog), then what would everyone
recommend for the allocation of the sort work files? How many datasets are
optimal? If my input file is 100 cylinders, for
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Just my €0.02:
1. It is money waste to pay IBM for support of the
look in the TIOT
Where?
Charles
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In
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:18:15 +1000, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 06:39 -0600, John P Kalinich wrote:
When we pick teams, I want to be on Barbara's side.
Me too - especially if it should come to pass that she actually gets mad
at something.
Shane...
Barbara's team is
Charles,
You can do a DEVTYPE macro to determine if the file is DUMMY or NULLFILE... the
returned area is low-values:
DEVTYPE =CL8'MYDDNAME',OUTAREA
IF (LTR,R15,R15,NZ)
*** DD Not allocated ***
ENDIF ,
IF (OC,OUTAREA,OUTAREA,Z)
*** DD DUMMY SPECIFIED ***
ENDIF ,
OUTAREA DS D
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Anyone running PKWARE and experiencing problems allocating to non-SMS
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Specific to PDS or PDSE large files ??
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Anyone running PKWARE and experiencing problems allocating to non-SMS
Why?
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I want to dynamically allocate my own sort work files
..snip
Larry Crilley
Tony
Minor niggle - but shouldn't that be? :
DEVTYPE =CL8'MYDDNAME',OUTAREA
IF (LTR,R15,R15,NZ)
*** DD Not allocated ***
ELSEIF (OC,OUTAREA,OUTAREA,Z)
*** DD DUMMY SPECIFIED ***
ENDIF ,
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Thompson, Steve pisze:
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Just my €0.02:
1. It is money waste to
DFSORT tells me: Generally, DFSORT can automatically determine the input
file size. However, in a few cases, such as when an E15 supplies all of the
input records, when information about a tape data set is not available from
a tape management system, or when Blockset is not selected, DFSORT cannot
As far as I can see so far, the target of such a transfer is almost always some
tool or process that does not support any of the DBMS solutions. But even if
they did, the costs of crafting and deploying a DBMS infrastructure is often
complex and prohibitively expensive.
I agree with you that
In listserv%20100234270926.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/11/2010
at 11:34 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
It would be wise to make both these changes at the same time as extension
to 64-bit.
For existing code, the only viable option is to make time_t 64 bits. For
new clock
In blu149-w226cd66cc2ea7529d3fda6a1...@phx.gbl, on 02/11/2010
at 01:10 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said:
The ISPF main menu (or more properly the 'ISPF Primary Option Menu') is
usually i...@prim.
The ISR indicates that it is PDF. That's another reason why I consider the
distinction
Aha.
If you know how many records are going to be sorted, then pass this information
to the sort program via the sort parms. An accurate record count should do a
lot more for overall performance than just sort work areas.
Perhaps a preliminary run that creates sort parm members to be
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John et al.
//HFS DD PATH='/aaa.bbb.ccc',...
Agreed Rob.
However, to further respond to Charles' question, for a low overhead or non-SVC
solution,
1.) Scan the TIOT... finding your DDName...
2.) Use the SVA (SWAREQ) to find the JFCB
3.) The JFCB data set name contains NULLFILE for both NULLFILE and DUMMY
files.
Tony Lubrano
Product
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Larry Crilley
I want to dynamically allocate my own sort work files. If I know how
large
my input file is (I can read the catalog), then what would everyone
recommend for the allocation of the sort work files? How
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:52:02 -0800, Ron Hawkins
ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Barbara,
Puh, how do I go about finding this out? If any of this is specified in
the
IGDSMS member, then we take whatever default IBM set. And these things
apparently don't *have* storage class, management
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Thompson, Steve pisze:
SNIPPAGE
Or one is an ISV and has
Over guessing is far better than under guessing. If you have a file that
varies between 1 million and 2.5 million records a night and at month end goes
to 4 million, then pass a SIZE=300E. Generally speaking, you can be short
by 50% and not kill your process (at least with SyncSort), so
DFSORT tells me: Generally, DFSORT can automatically determine the input
file size. However, in a few cases, such as when an E15 supplies all of
the
input records,
Actually it's when E15 supplies all of the input records AND no file size
information is provided
to DFSORT. If you pass a file
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:42:38 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
OH. LISTDSI is likely only legacy dataset aware. I would use BPXWDYN if a
UNIX file is a possibility.
Has BPXWDYN the capability to extract characteristics of an existing
DDNAME? I'm familiar only with its ability to return DSNAME,
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:03:33 -0600, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com
wrote:
We have a sysplex with four processors, two of which run production work
with development work on the others. In their quest for trivia, my
management wants to know the impact to production if we move the
development
Arthur Gutowski wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:03:33 -0600, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com
wrote:
We have a sysplex with four processors, two of which run production work
with development work on the others. In their quest for trivia, my
management wants to know the impact to production if
You do know that 6 x 9 = 42, works correctly in base 13 math.
Hayim
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Yes, that is a well known fact among Hitch-Hiker enthusiasts ;-)
Hayim Sokolsky hsokol...@dtcc.com 2/12/2010 11:49 AM
You do know that 6 x 9 = 42, works correctly in base 13 math.
Hayim
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peter.far...@broadridge.com (Farley, Peter x23353) writes:
PMFJI here, but the facts that Media Manager underlies these new (FSVO
new) file technologies and that
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 02/12/2010 06:40:29 AM:
Frank Yaeger will hopefully chimes in for DFSORT...
FYI, I'm happy to chime in on DFSORT/ICETOOL how-to, function and
migration questions.
But David Betten, our Performance Team leader, is our expert
on performance, tuning, capacity, etc so I
Does wasted space in PDSE's really matter all that much? I'll bet no
one has al their PDS data set compressed 100% of the time - that's called
wasted space not to mention the constant battle with directory blocks.
PDSE's are not perfect but this stuff about wasted-space is just hot air
1.) Scan the TIOT... finding your DDName...
If you're looking in the TIOT, what does TIOESTTB/TIOEFSRT show for a DUMMY
allocation?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:46:36 -0500
From: tony.lubr...@neon.com
Subject: Re: Determining if DUMMY allocation
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Agreed
True confession time: I've never used DEVTYPE. Questions:
1. Is it low overhead? How would you guess it compares to searching the
TIOT and issuing a SWAREQ? I'm not concerned about one or two instructions
here, but I'm trying to avoid OPEN or SVC 99, for example.
2. Are there any advantages over
TIOEFSRT certainly looks promising:
TIOEFSRT - DURING PROBLEM PROGRAM, ADDRESS OF UCB.
DURING ALLOCATION, BITS 0-11 CONTAIN OFFSET, IN THE
UCB LOOK-UP TABLE, TO AN ADDRESS FOR A DEVICE
REQUIRED OR ELIGIBLE FOR THIS DATA SET. THE UCB
LOOK-UP TABLE HAS ADDRESSES OF UCB'S. BITS 12-23
CONTAIN OFFSET,
On 2/11/2010 at 5:54 AM, in message
listserv%201002110654218573.0...@bama.ua.edu, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
No-one said anything about corrupt PDSE during IPL... (or I have missed it.)
In z/OS v1.12 Preview this snippet:
PDSE processing is planned to be
On 2/12/2010 2:04 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
I'm not so desperate for ultra performance that I would use any field that
was likely to not provide a reliable answer under certain circumstances.
It's product code that will be shipped to multiple customers, many of
which will have MVS environments
3. Where is it documented? I don't see it in MVS Assembler Services,
Authorized Assembler Services, or DFSMS Macros.
It's in SC26-7400-09 z/OS V1R11.0 DFSMSdfp Advanced Services
I've used it a lot in the distant past but not for a long time now.
It issues SVC24. I don't think there
Hi All,
Does anybody know of a good replacement product for CA-Spool?
JQP from mackinney seems pretty good. Any others?
Regards.
Jerome
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This is how we do it
DDCHKCLC TIOEFSRT,=AL3(0) Q. REAL UCB ADDRESS ?
BEDDBAD A. NO, BAD DD
We test for the presence of DD DUMMY concatenated in the middle of a
SORTIN concatenation in ICEIEXIT. If it is there, DFSORT drops all
records after DD DUMMY,
Maybe it doesn't happen in your industry but some of us sell products whose
life span is measured in decades. Abandoning one in the middle will not get
you much repeat business. It is also pretty much guaranteed to scare away any
new customers. (How many Apple II customers ever bought a
What's the matter with CA-Spool??
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Hi All,
Does anybody know of a good
costs
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What's the matter with CA-Spool??
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David,
Many moons ago (maybe DFSORT 1.7) the recommended total SORTWK space was 1.7
times the input file size. I've noted how using Hiperspace and Dataspace
reduces the sortwk space used, and I'm wondering if your 10% recommendation
is based on Sort being able to use an optimal amount of memory.
David's suggestion is a good one (unless someone knows a time when it could be
zeros and not indicate a DD DUMMY file).
TIOEFSRT is a GUPI field - although that doesn't always mean you can be assured
of its usability in the future.
Tony Lubrano
Product Author
NEON Enterprise Software, LLC.
p:
Having worked for a hardware vendor big in tape and tape libraries,
I can understand IBM wanting to stop servicing these drives. What may
actually be occurring is they are losing the ability to service (repair)
these devices. I would not be surprised to find that the parts required are
no
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[ snip ]
42 seems like the right answer to me. Particularly if the question
is, What do
you get when you multiply 6 by 9?
If you say so. I never did fully understand that new math anyway.
Costs was the reason we migrated to it. But our VTAM group that replaced
another product could probably go on for days about whats wrong with it
compared to the product we previously used.But they will also say that
the support was excellent in responding to issues and writing code to support
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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:30 PM
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Having worked for a hardware vendor big in tape
I see:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/GIMCOM41/24.3.4.3
Title: SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0 Commands
Document Number: SA22-7771-13
24.3.4.3 SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0 Commands
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24.3.4.3 SYSOUT
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:20:31 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
I see:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/GIMCOM41/24.3.4.3
Title: SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0 Commands
Document Number: SA22-7771-13
24.3.4.3 SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0
1) You should look in SMP/E Reference for the definition of the DDDEF
keywords. For example:
o SYSOUT is mutually exclusive with BLOCK, CYLINDER, TRACK, CONCAT,
PATH, and DATASET.
2) I don't see how OUTLIM would be remotely useful in SMP/E,
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Here is a funny one for you. We were doing house cleaning and found the 3705
assembler modules in linklib.
We were just going to delete them but we thought we should go through change
control to CYA.
AFter the
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True confession time: I've never used DEVTYPE. Questions:
1. Is it low overhead? How would you guess it compares to searching the
TIOT and issuing a SWAREQ? I'm not concerned about one or two instructions
here,
I'd encourage any account to go back to their sales team and get them to
work with you on the costs. Installation and Migration can be very costly
in dollars and people-time. And unless there is some missing functionality,
I'd think you would want to avoid that.
znor...@ca.com
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:31:45 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote:
1) You should look in SMP/E Reference for the definition of the DDDEF
keywords. For example:
o SYSOUT is mutually exclusive with BLOCK, CYLINDER, TRACK, CONCAT,
PATH, and DATASET.
Ugh! So the Commands manual doesn't tell me the
But your first post said you didn't want use the TIOT?
Sorry. My first post was badly phrased. I didn't mean that. I said
My preference would be for something low overhead (I have a bunch of DD's to
look up) and that did not require below the line storage (such as searching
the TIOT and using
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:22:28 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:31:45 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote:
1) You should look in SMP/E Reference for the definition of the DDDEF
keywords. For example:
o SYSOUT is mutually exclusive with BLOCK, CYLINDER, TRACK,
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:25:07 -0800, Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz wrote:
Installation and Migration can be very costly in dollars and people-time.
Unfortunately, that part is ignored more often than not. Bean counters look
at the bottom line and figure they are
I just noticed the following in one of your postings.
If I want to subtask multiple sorts (same input file),
If you are going to run multiple sorts concurrently in the same address space,
things can get interesting. NOTE: You may want to confirm what I say with your
sort vendor.
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