Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Bishop
On Mon, 3 May 2010 13:48:38 +0300, Matan Cohen wrote: >we are trying to use an ftp client on z/os >using a job to get datasets larger than 4 GB from a windows server after we >succesfully send the Datasets to the windows FTP server . >when trying to get the Datasets back to the Mainframe we get t

Re: Munged Subject [Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acksþ]

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Godfrey
I noticed that the munging consists of adding a space after every 10th character of the subject line. In some cases it may appear to be irregular rather than every 10th character, but that is only because an already munged subject line has been re-munged after "Re:" or something was added to th

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 May 2010 11:42:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On Mon, 3 May 2010 08:58:16 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: > >>This might be of interest to those wanting to do floating point arithmetic. >>Please *NOTE* I do NOT know if this pertains to IBM or not. >> >>http://floating-point-gui.de/ >>

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 May 2010 14:01:16 -0700, Bob goolsby wrote: >Mornin' -- > >This should be required reading in every Engineering/Physics/Computer >Sciences class "What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About >Floating Point". ( http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html ) > >The question co

Re: ZFS

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
A gloating and deriding VM bigot proudly told me in 1977 that your code snippet would break MVT but not VM. But by then I was working with MVS, so I never tested it on an MVT sandbox, but I did test it on an MVS sandbox. I let the job run 100% CPU-bound for a couple of minutes, then canceled i

Catalog re-location

2010-05-03 Thread John Norgauer
We are in the process of migrating all of our DASD to Hitachi mod 9's. Our existing catalogs are spread over many of the old 3390's that are going. I would like to have all of the catalogs on one volume for the sake of organization. Any issues with this approach (performance or otherwise)? Joh

Re: Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acks

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
The CCW architecture allows up to 65535 bytes to be transferred by a single CCW regardless of the device type. The device and/or control unit involved may have a smaller limit. The largest number of bytes that can be written into a user record (with Record number not = 0) with a key length of

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Bob goolsby
Mornin' -- This should be required reading in every Engineering/Physics/Computer Sciences class "What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About Floating Point". ( http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html ) The question comes up about once a month on the Perl boards (usually under th

Re: EKM at z/OS 1.11

2010-05-03 Thread Richard Peurifoy
IBM found my EKM problem. If the the alias (cert label) is exactly 21 characters it fails. This is fixed in JAVA SR6. Naturally I'm at SR5. We have ordered the latest JAVA. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 May 2010 11:42:47 -0700, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) wrote: >Common decimal numbers such as 0.1 can not be accurately >represented in binary. If you divide X'1' by X'A', you will get >X'0.1999'. Or try this with your favorite hexadecimal >calculator. Divide X'100

Re: Red Alert: z/OS with PTFs for OA30513 can experience data loss (2010.05.03)

2010-05-03 Thread Jousma, David
Yep, just got this too. IBM says IPL to implement as well. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 3 May 2010 08:58:16 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: >This might be of interest to those wanting to do floating point arithmetic. >Please *NOTE* I do NOT know if this pertains to IBM or not. > >http://floating-point-gui.de/ > Common decimal numbers such as 0.1 can not be accurately represented in

Red Alert: z/OS with PTFs for OA30513 can experience data loss (2010.05.03)

2010-05-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
*FYI* You should of course be getting this directly if subscribed to IBM Notifications for Red Alerts but in case you did not see this. https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/redAlerts/home.html Abstract: z/OS with PTFs for OA30513 can experience data loss due to deletion of logstream

Re: MVS to z/OS Experience Looking for Work

2010-05-03 Thread Itschak Mugzach
There is also a job offering section in zJournal. Good luck find your next job. ITschak On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Ron Hawkins wrote: > Scott, > > Did you have a look at the hardware and software vendor sites? Try > http://www.hds.com/corporate/careers/job-search/index.html, especially the

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>This is not to say that someone, somewhere, is not using RECFM=U for something >not processed by the Binder or IEBCOPY (with COPYMOD), but I have yet to hear >of anyone doing that. >I'm willing to be surprised if someone actually is doing that. We were, in COBOL many years ago, but had to chan

Re: How to analyze a volume's access by dataset

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
I never worked with GTFPARS, and only now vaguely remember it, thanks to your mentioning it. After CA bought UCCEL in 1987 and redundanted me [1], I lost all contact with FastDASD's goings-on. So I don't know about its functional replacement by Astex which occurred with CA's subsequent acquisi

Re: Problem with AbendAid 11.2.2

2010-05-03 Thread Scott T. Harder
I think pretty much everyone on this list has a story to be told that would reveal wounds which are still open to this day. I know what mine is. Let it go. Let it go. You're in good company. ;-) Scott T. Harder Mainframe Services, Inc. Naples, FL > For myself, I caused an uneeded re-IPL b

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Kelly
I'm curious how you might be expecting to factor in IDRC compression with the data stored on the tape? I believe that the BLKCNT represents what is being stored, not what got sent down the channel. I've been reviewing our tape usage with FATS and the TMC BLKCNT is the number of uncompressed b

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Eells
John Eells wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2010 09:22:22 -0400, John Eells wrote: If I recall correctly, it's 32760 to accommodate BDWs and RDWs for variable data. You can find a very long post of mine in the archives about block sizes on DASD. I believe the BLKSIZE includes the B

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2010 09:22:22 -0400, John Eells wrote: If I recall correctly, it's 32760 to accommodate BDWs and RDWs for variable data. You can find a very long post of mine in the archives about block sizes on DASD. I believe the BLKSIZE includes the BDW and RDWs; they

Re: MVS to z/OS Experience Looking for Work

2010-05-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Scott, Did you have a look at the hardware and software vendor sites? Try http://www.hds.com/corporate/careers/job-search/index.html, especially the one headed Master Performance Consultant - Mainframe-001192. Anyone on the list is also invited to check it out. And yes this is a shameless job adv

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic > > This might be of interest to those wantin

Re: How to analyze a volume's access by dataset

2010-05-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bill, Cast your mind back to GTFPARS. This IBM FDP would build seek histograms using IEHLIST VTOC Listings as input to map the extents of the datasets on the volume. CA-ASTEX does some very good IO level analysis. As with FASTDASD, CA-ASTEX intercepts every IO. I think that this replaced FASTDASD

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Where's the track capacity formula? I don't know where it is in the current books; I have it on an old reference card: Space = C + K + D C = 10 K, of course, depends on the key length. If KL = 0, K=0 Otherwise: K = 9 + (KL + 6KN +6)/34 Where: KN = (KL + 6

Re: recommended way to send large files from z/OS to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Matan, Just for the record, I was using QFTP from Jolly Giant Software to move these datasets. It's a little more MVS friendly than most FTP GUI products. http://www.jollygiant.com/qftpfiletransfer.html. The datasets were TRSMAIN tersed files. Ron > -Original Message- > From: Ron Hawk

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
In the IBM-MAIN archives, inter alia. It's in an IBM book or two somewhere also, of course. I once tried to use the formula for a 3390 to compute the effective track size of a given blocksize of X, whatever X was for me at that moment. I gave up on the formula and instead wrote a simple progr

(may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Ed Gould
This might be of interest to those wanting to do floating point arithmetic. Please *NOTE* I do NOT know if this pertains to IBM or not. http://floating-point-gui.de/ Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
And you can also write one record per track that is as long as the whole track (ca. 56K bytes) if you use EXCP, XDAP (these first two can run unauthorized), EXCPVR, or STARTIO (these last two must run authorized). But then the externally visible metadata - BLKSIZE, LRECL, etc. - may not be auto

Re: Problem with AbendAid 11.2.2

2010-05-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
McKown, John wrote: >I'm an idiot. You are not allowed to feel bad. ;-D >There were some old AbendAid modules in the linklist above the new libraries. I don't know why they were there. I deleted them, F LLa,REFRESH, and all appears to be well. Ouch, but common. Wrong Linklist and LPA conc

MVS to z/OS Experience Looking for Work

2010-05-03 Thread Scott T. Harder
I know this is most likely a no-no, but I am going to go for it: I am seeking anything from Computer Operator to System Administrator to program product support; with a preference of something in System Automation, in a large IBM mainframe installation running z/OS. I will consider relocating *an

Re: ETR is down (hilarious resolution)

2010-05-03 Thread Scott T. Harder
Yup... Have to admit: It is not a very good system that puts the onus on the customer to massage and alter the data in a problem record, such that it meets the limited capabilities of the receiving system. Reporting a problem shouldn't be a problem in and of itself. In a perfect world, it shoul

Re: How to analyze a volume's access by dataset

2010-05-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
GTF traces the seek address (CCHR, et al.) stored in the IOSB but the post-processing to determine which of the data sets on the volume has each given traced CCHR within its allocated extents is non-trivial, and I don't know of anyone who has written such code, unless I did it and have forgotten

Re: Problem with AbendAid 11.2.2

2010-05-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John > > I'm an idiot. As if the regulars didn't know that. There were some old AbendAid modules in the > linklist above the new libraries. I don't know why they were there. I deleted them, F LLa,REFRESH, and >

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 May 2010 09:22:22 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >If I recall correctly, it's 32760 to accommodate BDWs and RDWs for >variable data. You can find a very long post of mine in the archives >about block sizes on DASD. > I believe the BLKSIZE includes the BDW and RDWs; they aren't additional. >

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Don Melton
Is the 553 coming from the Windows FTP client? It might be assuming that the target MVS disk is FAT32 (hence the 4GB limit). If you haven't already tried it, is there any way you can try to retrieve the file using the MVS FTP client and a Windows FTP server? [You want to use the same client/s

Re: Problem with AbendAid 11.2.2

2010-05-03 Thread McKown, John
I'm an idiot. As if the regulars didn't know that. There were some old AbendAid modules in the linklist above the new libraries. I don't know why they were there. I deleted them, F LLa,REFRESH, and all appears to be well. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group Hea

Problem with AbendAid 11.2.2

2010-05-03 Thread McKown, John
I just installed this on my z/OS 1.10 sandbox system. When I force an S0C3 abend, I get: AB63-INSUFFICIENT STACK SPACE REMAINING FOR #XAAHEAD TO CONTINUE AB5A8- ABEND-AID ESPIE EXIT WAS INVOKED AB5A8- S0C1 ABEND AT 0002D6 IN TMLINK , IL=2, LEVEL=04/06/2009, 14.04, MXA, PTGABAS. AB5C3- PSW = 078

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-05-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: > Back when the Web was entirely new and barely developed at CERN, the IBM > mainframe was the second type of machine in the world to offer a Web user > interface -- and the first machine anywhere outside Switzerland. Stanford > University did th

Re: Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acks

2010-05-03 Thread Lloyd Fuller
32760 is correct for access method services: you need to leave room for the BDW which gets added by access method for RECFM=B. Access method services treats the BLKSIZE as a signed value so values over 32767 are negative, not positive. The hardware and EXCP supports larger. I have used 65535

Re: RACF - Any way to find out before hand what the user's access is to a file

2010-05-03 Thread Tony @ Comcast
Nope. We have other means to make that determination. The unnamed company in Nevada provides a nice report. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 05/02/2010 08:26 PM, Scott Barry wrote: > On Sun, 2 May 2010 08:46:49 -0400, Lizette Koehler > wrote: > >> I have a project to review all the virtual tapes in the VTS and see which >> tape datasets could go on dasd. >> >> I am using CA1 to get the LRECL, BLKSIZE and BLKCNT to determine how man

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: W dniu 2010-05-02 15:04, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Remember that the maximum blksize on dasd is 27998 ... No. It's not. It's 32765. IBM says it's 32760. BTW: 27998 is *sometimes* optimal blksize. It depends on other dataset parameters. Right. If I recall correctly, it's 32760 to ac

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread John Eells
Lizette Koehler wrote: I have a project to review all the virtual tapes in the VTS and see which tape datasets could go on dasd. I am using CA1 to get the LRECL, BLKSIZE and BLKCNT to determine how many bytes are on the tape. Then dividing that by the number of bytes per track to get a rough es

Re: Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acks‏

2010-05-03 Thread Staller, Allan
2**0 = 1 >32760 = 4096 x 8 4096 * 8 = 32768 No power of 2 ends in a ZERO (or an odd number). Whatever the real number is, it's greater than 27998. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: privilige to run a compress job.

2010-05-03 Thread Staller, Allan
Add a step to each migration to compress the appropriate target datasets. That way the "user" will never need to compress. HTH, > >Hi, > >We using RACF on a z/os 1.10. > >I trying to find a way to permit a user to run a compress job on a data > >sets while is access on the data set is READ. > >a

Re: tso session timeout

2010-05-03 Thread Chris Mason
Jan Having checked "IKJEFLN2 - TSO Reconnect Exit for the TN3270 Environment" http://gsf-soft.com/Products/IKJEFLN2.shtml it appears that this implementation of IKJEFLN2 performs the same function as is provided "officially" using the "logonhere" support in z/OS V1R11. I described this in my

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread Martin Kline
>>BTW: 27998 is *sometimes* optimal blksize. It depends on other dataset parameters. >Sometimes? >When is it not? Besides having to be a multiple of LRECL for FB files, another situation where half-track blocking is bad is for a PDS with many members sized at just over a half track. In this ca

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
So, if I understand your requirements, it looks like you are creating a tapeless backup solution to your servers from the Mainframe DFDSS dumps. The amount of data will be between 2-27GB with 700GB total possible weekly. How are you creating your DFDSS dumps? Do you use BLKSIZE=32760 on the out

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Finley, Frank
Is this a very old Windows "Server", or a workstation operating as a "Server", do you possibly have an older piece of software running the FTP server on the Windows box? You will get this on any system running FAT32 (or 16) as a limitation of the File System. Many pieces of software from when t

Re: ETR is down (hilarious resolution)

2010-05-03 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
I see. Do you feel better now? So it's not ok to offend internationally but it's ok to offend me? Just want to be clear on the rules here. :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to list

OA29000 and DOM

2010-05-03 Thread Barbara Nitz
For the past week I have been struggling with a performance problem in our automation NetView. The NetView behaviour changed when OA29000 allowed all messages to be considered action messages. Action messages are retained on internal Netview queues until a DOM is received. - Now, we do NOT use A

Re: SDSF and MQ

2010-05-03 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thanks Don and Dave! I must have missed that point in the 1.12 announcement letter. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Imbriale Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF and MQ

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Mon, 3 May 2010 13:48:38 +0300, Matan Cohen wrote: >assuming this will work we will want to send on a weekly base an estimate of >700GB in Datasets between 2-27GB from the z/os to an windows server . >the data sets which was send should be ready to send back in case of a >disaster. Could Sh

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Matan Cohen wrote: > > forget about the xmit problem. > we are trying to use an ftp client on z/os > using a job to get datasets larger than 4 GB from a windows server after we > succesfully send the Datasets to the windows FTP server . > when trying to get the Dat

Re: tso session timeout

2010-05-03 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:29:02 -0400, zMan wrote: > >Is there a better way? On z/VM I'd do a LOGON HERE. Is there some way to >make TSO "notice" that I'm not there? > IKJEFLN2 You can find a version of that in file 183 of the CBT tape. (Thanks again, Gilbert Saint-flour! This one save my ..s num

SIS broken on IBMLINK

2010-05-03 Thread Jousma, David
>From IBM: 2 May 2010 This is to advise customers that queries using eSupport Knowledge Base in Service Information Search (SIS) is not working due to technical problem. Please go to www.ibm.com/support (http://ww

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Matan Cohen
forget about the xmit problem. we are trying to use an ftp client on z/os using a job to get datasets larger than 4 GB from a windows server after we succesfully send the Datasets to the windows FTP server . when trying to get the Datasets back to the Mainframe we get the follow message : 553 Canno

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-03 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-05-03 00:35, Rick Fochtman pisze: --- W dniu 2010-05-02 15:04, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Remember that the maximum blksize on dasd is 27998 ... No. It's not. It's 32765. IBM says it's 32760. BTW: 27998 is *sometimes* opti

Re: Munged Subject [Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acksþ]

2010-05-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thompson, Steve wrote: >I have been watching subject lines get munged for a while. And so I thought I'd try to track it down. Thanks for spotting this. >In this case it appears to get started when John Gilmore replied to a posting. >The above subject started out as: >Calculate Tape Bytes to Trac

Re: z/OS Unix and VBA files.

2010-05-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>> [me]... Will have to think about it a bit more. >I think the explanation can be found in the "C/C++ Programming >Guide", in the chapter about "Using ASA text files" (Chapter 7 >in the recent editions). Thanks a lot, Bill, for the nice summary! -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse