Alan Altmark wrote:
People who say it won't work are probably aware of certain configurations
where it won't, in fact, work. Those who say it WILL work haven't talked
to the nay-sayers. :-)
After we successfully brought up z/OS 1.4 on our z10, I told all of the
(people you call) "nay say
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:03:57 -0700, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
>We brought up z/OS 1.4 under z/VM on our z10 after numerous experts told
>us it wouldn't work. I've become quite skeptical of
>authoritative-sounding claims that certain hardware/software combination
>simply "won't work". Too many people ar
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 10:25 PM
To: William M. Klein
Subject: Date formats
On 08/13/2010 12:43 PM, zMan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John
> wrote:
>> There are two that I know of which you did not
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I was more thinking of 1582. Wikipedia (which is always right
> except when it disagrees with you) says:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proleptic_Gregorian_calendar
>
> The proleptic Gregorian calendar is produced by extending
> t
On 08/13/2010 12:43 PM, zMan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John
> wrote:
>> There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL.
>> COBOL is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is
>> an integer which is the number of days since
scott.r...@joann.com (Scott Rowe) writes:
> OK,the 9121 had some CMOS in it, but also still had much Bipolar logic:
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=212AEDFD169F4B9A8AB5D641C4560917?doi=10.1.1.86.4485&rep=rep1&type=pdf
>
compares footprint of 9121 air-cooled (announced
Rex,
What is the dasd vendor? EMC, IBM , STK?
We have EMC and it has its own monitor - Workload Analyzer - that can be
used to verify performance on our EMC DASD.
Sometimes RMF is not showing a significant disconnect time, but when we use
ECC or WLA we can see where the issue might be coming fr
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:49:19 +, john gilmore wrote:
>
>| That would be a proleptic Gregorian date?
>
>and the answer to his question is that the dates of all days that occur before
>a calendar's epoch origin are proleptic for that calendar by definition.
>Their day numbers are negative. T
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
| That would be a proleptic Gregorian date?
and the answer to his question is that the dates of all days that occur before
a calendar's epoch origin are proleptic for that calendar by definition. Their
day numbers are negative. The use of a fullword for Gregorian day v
Hello list,
I have a couple questions, one general question on RMF reporting and the other
on a specific DASD problem I'm having.
First the general question. On the monitor 1 post processing reports, what
exactly does the "TIME" field represent? I know this may sound like a silly
question, b
Don Poitras wrote:
SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a
large list.
http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/lrdict/63026/HTML/default/a003169814.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
zMan wrote:
How many different date formats are there? There's the har
john gilmore wrote:
Formats are of interest for displaying|printing dates.
They are of almost no interest for storing dates, which should be
stored as signed integers that specify day counts before and after
some epoch origin, giving each day a serial number in the sequence
Oh my! "Should
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:48:55 +, john gilmore wrote:
>
>The obvious epoch origin to use is that for CE and BCE dates, viz.,
>December 31 of the Gregorian calendar. Other epoch origins can then be
>supported simply using a table of displacements.
>
That would be a proleptic Gregorian ca
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:25:01 -0400, zMan wrote:
>How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware
>timestamp, in two forms (original, with the 2046 rollover, and the
>extended one -- what is that, a STCKE instruction?). There's something
ETOD ends at the same point as TOD, despite
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:06:18 +0200, Leopold Strauss wrote:
> On 13.08.2010 11:54, Jim McAlpine wrote:
>> Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text
>> files which are compatible with winzip.
>>
>Try gzip ( GNU.zip).
>
Errr... no. gzip is something different. The nam
Ward, Mike S wrote:
Just to update the archives. I had asked a while back if anyone could
tell me if DB/2 V7 would run on z/OS V1.11. The answer I received was a
no it won't work. Well we copied all the libraries and DB/2 datasets
from z/OS 1.7 to 1.11 then we made the same modifications to parml
Just to update the archives. I had asked a while back if anyone could
tell me if DB/2 V7 would run on z/OS V1.11. The answer I received was a
no it won't work. Well we copied all the libraries and DB/2 datasets
from z/OS 1.7 to 1.11 then we made the same modifications to parmlib
member etc... like
We had to apply an APAR - RO20687 to FILESAVE (release 4.9, GL 0508). In
addition, we had to change our FILESAVE control cards to do a SORT(NO) as well
as a REJECT on the file which contained the too large record. Luckily our down
stream process did not require this particular file's data.
--
J
Formats are of interest for displaying|printing dates.
They are of almost no interest for storing dates, which should be stored as
signed integers that specify day counts before and after some epoch origin,
giving each day a serial number in the sequence
. . . , -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, . . .
Listers,
(cross-post from CICS-l)
We haven't had a poll yet this year and seeing that it is Friday the 13th...
Let's see how many shops are planning on throwing out the mainframe.
The poll is here : http://www.cicsworld.com
Ian
>Years ago, Dr Merrill stated that MXG probably processed more different date
>and time formats than any other software package.
MXG had that facilty mainly because SAS could do most of them.
But, once read, they were stored in internal (SAS) format.
Don't get me wrong.
MXG is a great example o
Years ago, Dr Merrill stated that MXG probably processed more different date
and time formats than any other software package. If you have access to it, it
may provide a good starting point.
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>SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a large
>list.
Now, you have to be careful about that statement!
SAS displays a lot of formats.
But, usually, there is only one internal format.
Days from June 1, 1960, iirc.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivat
SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a
large list.
http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/lrdict/63026/HTML/default/a003169814.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
zMan wrote:
>
> How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware
> timestamp
Being Canadian, I don't know where that is.
But, EMC support is very good.
PS: my ex is from Rochester, but that doesn't mean I know all of NY State.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!
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From: August Carideo
Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion L
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:42, zMan wrote:
> Sure, "days this year" can be useful, but does anyone store dates as
> "days so far in the year"? It's basically the "Julian" date without
> the year.
>
Yes, they do. I worked on a data conversion product a few years ago for a
software vendor, and th
We are in Rye NY ( Westchester County )
Ted MacNEIL
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John
wrote:
> There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL.
> COBOL is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is an
> integer which is the number of days since 14Oct1582.
Wow, in 35 years I've never hea
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Brian Kennelly
wrote, re "days so far in the year" as
a date format:
> That is actually a very import format, as well as the full format returned
> by the TIME macro: 0cyyddd. (Century, year, days in year.)
Sure, "days this year" can be useful, but does anyone s
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:06 -0400, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal wrote:
> "Last mainframe will turned off in 1996" hahahahaha
That would be Stewart Alsop, quoted in 1991. He eats his words on page
2 of Jim Elliott's m/f retrospective:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/pdfs/zhistory.pdf
(How di
>Though I missed the start of these post's that's not true
we use EmC for our MF DASD w/ direct FICON - from Z/os Z/vm and Z/vse and have
had no problems w/ support
I guess it depends where you are.
One of my best friends was a STC (then STK, then Sun, then Oracle -- but he
left a long time ago
Though I missed the start of these post's
that's not true
we use EmC for our MF DASD w/ direct FICON - from Z/os Z/vm and Z/vse
and have had no problems w/ support
Michael Seeman
The International Astronomical Union uses the Julian Date / Time format.
0 was at January 1, 4713 BCE Greenwich noon, increments by 1 per day,
decimal fraction of day for time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_day
Various Gregorian calendar formats, including a list by country.
http://en.wikipe
While I don't disagree with your point, they are not named after a formula,
they are named after the founders.
>>> Michael Seeman 8/13/2010 12:00 PM >>>
For what it's worth, you'll be hard pressed to find IBM Mainframe ECKD / FICON
support expertise with the with the vendor named after a physic
Barbara Nitz wrote:
An overview of the various address spaces involved with MSM (4
long-term plus other short-term), what types of functions in MSM cause
tasks to to farmed out to other address spaces or the creation of other
address spaces for running tasks.
What? 4 new permanent addre
Try info-zip. It works, but is somewhat dated with respect to the newer zOS
file systems and is a little difficult to setup.
Once up and running it handles text files great. It will do EBCDIC to ASCII
conversion just fine. Then just do a binary download and winzip will handle
the zip file ju
Having grown up using dd/mm/yy then having to switch to mm/dd/yy so I don't
know whether my birthday is 09/06 or 06/09 I'm partial to a ddmmmyy format
where mmm is JAN, FEB, ... DEC
Alan
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL. COBOL
is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is an integer
which is the number of days since 14Oct1582.
--
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Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets®
9151
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:25, zMan wrote:
> Rexx has a few others, but they're conveniences, like the number of
> days this year -- I don't really consider that a date format, though
> it's useful sometimes.
>
>
That is actually a very import format, as well as the full format returned
by the TI
You forgot SMF time: number of hundredths of seconds since midnight.
Jon L. Veilleux
veilleu...@aetna.com
(860) 636-9179
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zMan
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.u
How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware
timestamp, in two forms (original, with the 2046 rollover, and the
extended one -- what is that, a STCKE instruction?). There's something
called an "Oracle format date". There's some UNIX format that rolls
over in 2034 or some such (ts
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Jim McAlpine wrote:
> I ran the following to archive 2 files at once -
>
>
> > //ZIP EXEC PGM=ZIP,
> > // PARM='/ -v -a dd:archive -@'
> > //STEPLIB DD DSN=INFOZIP.LOAD,DISP=SHR
> > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //CEEDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
For what it's worth, you'll be hard pressed to find IBM Mainframe ECKD / FICON
support expertise with the with the vendor named after a physics formula.
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Check the files... they probably have only newline as line separators.
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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FWIW, there is a sample program in JZOS (in the IBM Java SDK) that I
wrote called "ZipDatasets" which will create Zip files from/to
datasets, PDS members, etc.
Unfortunatel
Dear Colleagues,
if I remember correctly, then the directory structure of PDSEs was
designed to speed up finding specific members as opposed to listing
the entire directory.
To my best of knowledge the directory structure of PDSs is sequential
(ordered list) while for PDSEs it is hierarchical (tr
I ran the following to archive 2 files at once -
> //ZIP EXEC PGM=ZIP,
> // PARM='/ -v -a dd:archive -@'
> //STEPLIB DD DSN=INFOZIP.LOAD,DISP=SHR
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
> //CEEDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
> //ARCHIVE DD DSN=INFOZIP.ARCHIVE,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
> //
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:58:35 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote:
>A long review:
Yes. I'm sure people appreciate it. Very detailed.
>
>After seeing some of the favorable comments on ibmmain on CA MSM 3.0, I
>was encouraged to try it out to see if MSM really did simplify things,
>and my results so far h
Joel,
We are just starting with MSM and I find your observations very interesting.
Thank you so much for sharing!
Cliff McNeill
>
> A long review:
>
> After seeing some of the favorable comments on ibmmain on CA MSM 3.0, I
> was encouraged to try it out to see if MSM really did simplify th
How big is your sort prefix (sort keys)?
Subtract this from 32767.
Look in each file for records longer than the result.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:58 AM, McKown, John
wrote:
> We use CA-FILESAVE to process CICS/TS 3.2 journal records. We are getting a
> message:
>
>
> FILE-ERRS03 JOURNAL RECORD
richbourg.cla...@mail.dc.state.fl.us (Richbourg, Claude) writes:
> I was cleaning out my office today and found an old IBM manual from
> February 1998:
>
> The Year 2000 and 2-Digit Dates:
>
> A Guide for Planning and Implementation GC28-1251-08
in the early 80s, one of the online conference
Hi there,
We are currently in the process of looking for a replacemnt of CA-Sysview. At
the moment the suggestion is to replace it by TMON for zOS.
However, we are currently using the API interface of CA-Sysview. Does
anyone know if TMON has a comparable possibility?
Thanks in advance.
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Michael Knigge <
michael.kni...@set-software.de> wrote:
> Jim McAlpine schrieb:
>
> Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text
>> files which are compatible with winzip.
>>
>
> Try ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/mvs/
>
>
> bye,
>
I was cleaning out my office today and found an old IBM manual from
February 1998:
The Year 2000 and 2-Digit Dates:
A Guide for Planning and Implementation GC28-1251-08
What a nice trip down memory lane. BTW, anyone else out there have this
manual with the cool picture on the front?
john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore) writes:
> A good first reference is:
>
> F. J. Allen and John Cocke, "A catalog of optimizing transformations",
> Courant Computer Science Symposium 5, Upper Saddle River, NJ:
> Prentice-Hall, 1977, pp. 1-30.
John's invention of 801/risc ... I've frequently
On 08/12/2010 11:56 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>> An overview of the various address spaces involved with MSM (4
>> long-term plus other short-term), what types of functions in MSM cause
>> tasks to to farmed out to other address spaces or the creation of other
>> address spaces for running tasks
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:54:23 -0400 Charles Mills wrote:
:>Thanks, Binyamin.
:>> if you tell the assembler
:>SYSSTATE?
Yep.
SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2,OSREL=ZOSV1R6
:>> POST with LINKAGE=BRANCH does not restore the registers
:>Thanks for pointing that out. I have not used LINKAGE=BRANCH
Hi All,
In a UTL exit how do I find out the step processor time for that step when
CPU time is exceeded? Thanks.
Howi
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There's nothing quite like empirical evidence. Set R13 to zero and POST.a full
word somewhere safe. See if you get a S0C4 inside IBM's code on an instruction
involving R13.
Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software
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Thanks, Binyamin.
> if you tell the assembler
SYSSTATE?
> POST with LINKAGE=BRANCH does not restore the registers
Thanks for pointing that out. I have not used LINKAGE=BRANCH before and had
not (yet!) noticed that. That will change things for one of my code paths
(which fortunately is a minorit
Reading this heading reminds me of a scene in the movie _Ghost
Busters_.
"Yes, he has no disk".
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Not a little misunderstanding of what optimizing compilers are good for, of
what they can and cannot do currently, has been evident in several different
IBM-MAIN threads/conversations during the last few days; and perhaps it will be
useful to try to explain where optimizing techniques stand toda
Dear Colleagues,
if I remember correctly, then the directory structure of PDSEs was designed
to speed up finding specific members as opposed to listing the entire
directory.
To my best of knowledge the directory structure of PDSs is sequential
(ordered list) while for PDSEs it is hierarchical (tr
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:21:47 -0400 Charles Mills wrote:
:>When I've written code in the past I have always routinely provided for a
:>save area for subsidiary functions, pointed to of course by R13. I never
:>paid any attention to whether particular functions required a save area
:>because it was
When I've written code in the past I have always routinely provided for a
save area for subsidiary functions, pointed to of course by R13. I never
paid any attention to whether particular functions required a save area
because it was just "always there." I'm currently engaged in writing code
where
We use CA-FILESAVE to process CICS/TS 3.2 journal records. We are getting a
message:
FILE-ERRS03 JOURNAL RECORD LENGTH + SORT PREFIX EXCEEDS 32767 BYTES; SORT
TERMINATED. MODULE=E15EXIT
Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me which record or file or anything. The manual
says to "exclude the file".
On 13.08.2010 11:54, Jim McAlpine wrote:
Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text
files which are compatible with winzip.
Jim McAlpine
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Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text
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Try ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/mvs/
bye,
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