Re: Sp of load

2010-12-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net > wrote: > In , on 12/22/2010 >at 06:40 PM, Micheal Butz said: > > >Would anyone know what subpool load loads into > > Yes. What are the load module attribute and are you running from an > authorized libra

Re: Sp of load

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/22/2010 at 06:40 PM, Micheal Butz said: >Would anyone know what subpool load loads into Yes. What are the load module attribute and are you running from an authorized library? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Paging Jay Maynard

2010-12-22 Thread Chris Craddock
On Wednesday, December 22, 2010, Mike Schwab wrote: > Speak of the Devil, and he makes time magazine. > > http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ > My wife pointed that out to me and she was utterly shocked when I casually replied

Re: Sp of load

2010-12-22 Thread Chris Craddock
On Wednesday, December 22, 2010, Micheal Butz wrote: > Would anyone know what subpool load loads into Yes. -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Sp of load

2010-12-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Would anyone know what subpool load loads into >Yes. That was uncalled for. We're here to help, not obsfuscate. I expected better of you. Not like certain cretins on this list! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Ed Gould
Howard: Interesting response. My take on is different.Using line mode "EDIT" has helped me save the day say on the order of 6 times (at least).You always have to have a fall back incase TSO does not come up (for many reasons) and you have to revert back to a previous version of the parmlib membe

Re: Paging Jay Maynard

2010-12-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Speak of the Devil, and he makes time magazine. http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:16 PM, zMan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > wrote: >> What is your new e-ma

Re: Paging Jay Maynard

2010-12-22 Thread zMan
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > What is your new e-mail address? Thanks. Speaking of Jay, I saw a neighbor walking a dog last night. The dog had a coat on with white reflective piping around it: my immediate thought was, "Hey, a Tron suit!" -- zMan -- "I've got

Paging Jay Maynard

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
What is your new e-mail address? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)

Sp of load

2010-12-22 Thread Micheal Butz
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2010-12-22 Thread Paul Baxendale
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Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/22/2010 at 10:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Apparently it can't look for a semicolon; that feels like a rule to >me. I was under the impression that ISPF allowed to user to specify the command delimiter. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Off topic Friday - Why did I do this?

2010-12-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > Or another common line: Now that I've got it all together, I've forgotten > where I put it. > > A line that was attributed to Ted Kennedy, probably falsely: "I've got the > whole Senate in my pocket. Now if I could just remember where I left

Re: Off topic Friday - Why did I do this?

2010-12-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
Or another common line: Now that I've got it all together, I've forgotten where I put it. A line that was attributed to Ted Kennedy, probably falsely: "I've got the whole Senate in my pocket. Now if I could just remember where I left my pants.." Rick -

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2010-12-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- If I use an SVC, is this true? If the SVC does something or returns some information that needs to be protected, then I need to use RACF to decide who can call it or who cannot? And everyone said not to use a

Re: Batch DAE?

2010-12-22 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:48:41 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: >Actually, once I take a closer look at the run. The exec gets RC=20 executing the SELECT. > >*-* "ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') "ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') >+++ RC(20) +++ > Jon - Please ensure that SYS1.SB

Re: Batch DAE?

2010-12-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Actually, once I take a closer look at the run. The exec gets RC=20 executing the SELECT. *-* "ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') >>> "ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') +++ RC(20) +++ -Original Message- Fr

Re: Batch DAE?

2010-12-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Thanks, I can get an exec that uses this to run, but I can't get the display to show up in the output. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.ed

Re: Off topic Friday - Why did I do this?

2010-12-22 Thread Scott Ford
Amen brother, at 60 i seem to say that a lot ..   Scott J Ford   From: "Pommier, Rex R." To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 12:04:56 PM Subject: Re: Off topic Friday - Why did I do this? Hmm, a coworker just sent me this quote yesterday.  It

Re: Batch DAE?

2010-12-22 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Jon, you can issue TSO %ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE' to get the same info, so perhaps you could derive something from that CLIST, or you can issue it for all of your DAE datasets, if you don't share them. Mary Anne On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:11:13 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: >Does anyone know of a way

Re: DCB open exit(IFG0EX0B) - how to install?

2010-12-22 Thread Ricc Harding
You could probably make an argument to your management to build a vector table anchored in CVTUSER since that word is for your site to use as they see fit. saves looking for yout subsystem or call NTS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: DCB open exit(IFG0EX0B) - how to install?

2010-12-22 Thread Ricc Harding
Once you have your stub in place it can use named token services or the old method of building a dummy subsystem to get the SSCTSUSE and anchor a vector table there with the address of your current module. Getmain CSA storage and use directed load to get your module into the getmained area, updat

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread zMan
Does any of this matter? It's not likely to get changed, after 30 years of being wrong (FSVO "wrong"), so this seems like a waste of time. -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Dec 2010 08:02:41 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >>ISPF doesn't have any rules about what an ISPF application can look >>for. >> >Apparently it can't look for a semicolon; that feels like a rule to me. It can - unless we've told it to handle semicolons differently. ---

RES: DCB open exit(IFG0EX0B) - how to install?

2010-12-22 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Johnny, You can do it in several ways. a) You can make IFG0EX0B as an exit stub, and invoke CSVDYNEX calling your actual exit. or b) You can have an initial program, executed during IPL or whenever you want, that issues CSVDYLPA REQUEST=ADD (Your Exit) LOAD E

Batch DAE?

2010-12-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Does anyone know of a way to interface with DAE in a batch job? I would like to be able to monitor multiple systems without having to log on to TSO and enter IPCS on every system. I could open a requirement for this, but I'd like to be able to do it before I retire...lol TIA, Jon This e-mail may

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:00:24 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:51:07 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >> >>ISPF doesn't have any rules about what an ISPF application can look >>for. >> >Apparently it can't look for a semicolon; that feels like a rule to me. No, the rule

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:51:07 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >ISPF doesn't have any rules about what an ISPF application can look >for. > Apparently it can't look for a semicolon; that feels like a rule to me. -- gil --

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2010-12-22 Thread Rob Scott
Lindy Why use an SVC? What is wrong with IKJEFTSR? If you *must* use a SVC to perform some sort of discrete auth-function for an unauth caller, then it would be responsible to provide some sort of SAF check to ensure the caller is allowed. I am assuming here that your SVC is returning to th

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: curiousity question: in-house doc > > I wouldn't recommend Docbook as a tool for "in ho

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
John, We use DocBook to generate all of our doc, with the same source generating PDFs, HTML, and man pages. The key is to get the right set of style sheets, which is where all of the heavy lifting is. We borrowed some from an existing Creative Commons project and heavily modified them.Sinc

Re: Dynamic Allocation 1.9 <-> 1.11?

2010-12-22 Thread Dana Mitchell
Bob, Does your problem have anything to do with dynamic allocation of GDG's? We also discovered a change in behaivor in dynamic allocation as we migrated to z/OS 1.11. Our situation was related to using SVC99 to allocate GDG datasets, the code was placing the entire dataset name including rel

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 12/22/10 09:27, McKown, John wrote: Right! The "perfect company" is one in which there is only high level management. Everything else should be done by the equivalent of "day labourers" who stand around (not costing anything) waiting for someone to hire them for a day or less. That way th

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: curiousity question: in-house doc > > > -Original Message- > > Too often now

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >That would break any code that expected to handle unmatched quotes. It would create more nasty surprises than the current situation. Agreed. I forgot about need for unmatched quotes. Thanks for telling us. >Doing as you suggest would leave the user scratching his

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > > On 12/22/2010 4:28 AM, John McKown wrote: > > I could do that. But I'll run into resistance. I have the HTTPD server > > running. And some minor Web sites on it which I wrote. The problem is > > that

Re: DCB open exit(IFG0EX0B) - how to install?

2010-12-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:45:54 +0800, Johnny Luo wrote: >Or better, instead of LOAD, I can use CSVQUERY to seach LPA only. > Or you could probably use the MVS Dynamic Exit facility to reach your real exit from within IFG0EX0B. We suggest doing that for the RACF exits, which similarly are not dynam

Re: Merry Christmas

2010-12-22 Thread Larry Macioce
Merry Christmas to all and Peace on Earth Secondly thank all of you for your help and I am sure with my current tasks at hand I will be a very large burden throughout the coming year. Larry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/22/2010 at 12:48 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >IMNHO, the parser should be rewritten so that upon encountering a >quote, a flag should be set, and reset upon encountering the next >quote. In that way, when encountering a delimiter, while this flag >is set, can then be treated as

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4d11eb21.2010...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 12/22/2010 at 01:12 PM, "R.S." said: >1. CONTENT. Document content is the most important. You should have >in-house templates for the documentation. The simpler, the better. I >really hate some templates with thousands tables, TOC's, Primary >Pag

Re: UNsuscribe

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <20101222.044035.2367...@webmail09.dca.untd.com>, on 12/22/2010 at 04:40 AM, "krn...@netzero.net" said: >Unsuscribe - please! Read the instructions at the bottom of every message - please! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0377b9a583fd0e4aacd676ee33ee994b486ae...@sdkmail13.emea.sas.com>, on 12/22/2010 at 01:47 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >If I use an SVC, is this true? If the SVC does something or returns >some information that needs to be protected, then I need to use RACF >to decide who can call it or who ca

Re: Merry Christmas

2010-12-22 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Thanks, you too! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Merry Christmas Hello List, Wish all members of this list a Merry Christmas and a

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread McKown, John
I appreciate the thoughts and comments. For me personally, being a Linux user by choice, I'm going to try to learn DocBook. So far as in-house documentation is concerned, well, I guess I'm stuck with MS Word simply because that's what we use. And nobody seems to want to worry about "standards" o

Re: DFRMM confusion

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Pace
This one can be tricky because my resolver appeared to work fine. Going to TSO and doing an NSLOOKUP will resolve the name. But TCPIP would not resolve it's host name at startup. This was from a bad parameter in my TCPIP proc. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Mike Wood wrote: > Just final clo

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: curiousity question: in-house doc > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Paul Gilmartin >

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/22/2010 4:28 AM, John McKown wrote: I could do that. But I'll run into resistance. I have the HTTPD server running. And some minor Web sites on it which I wrote. The problem is that management knows that our z software bill is MSU dependent. So they are always looking to reduce MSUs. Which

Re: DCB open exit(IFG0EX0B) - how to install?

2010-12-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Johnny, What exactly are you trying to accomplish by using this DCB Open Exit(IFG0EX08). It maybe possible there might be other solutions available depending on your requirements. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Disappearing Proc Parm

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/21/2010 at 03:42 PM, Tom Trainor said: >Why would it create the //IEFPROC.IEFRDER DD DEST=HP9050 statement >for DEST=HP9050 and NOT for any OTHER parms passed to the PROC? ITYM not with any of the other parms that you tried. Try, e.g., DCB=. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, S

Re: Disappearing Proc Parm

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/21/2010 at 02:59 PM, Tom Trainor said: >Is there something SPECIAL about "DEST=" in a catalogued procedure? Yes. START recognizes keywords that are valid on a DD and puts them on IEFRDER. That is a blessing and a curse. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Problem with an edit command in tso

2010-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/21/2010 at 02:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Whose moronic design fails to treat a command delimiter appearing in >a delimited string as plain text? Your question still has the same incorrect assumption. >Your example contains no delimited string, according to ISPF's >rules, ISPF d

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2010-12-22 Thread Lindy Mayfield
If I use an SVC, is this true? If the SVC does something or returns some information that needs to be protected, then I need to use RACF to decide who can call it or who cannot? And everyone said not to use a magic SVC, and I get that. But if that SVC is also protected by RACF, is it at all a

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R.S. wrote: >Radoslaw Skorupka >Lodz, Poland Welcome back, I was really afraid you have frozen silly stiff like a snowman and will perhaps thaw late next year. To think you could join me in my swimming pool and have an ice cold beer in the warm sun! ;-D I can send you a photo of the sun if yo

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread R.S.
John McKown pisze: I'm off on one of my wild hares again. Or is that "wild hair"? No, my hair is mostly gone, so it must be hare. All our "in house" documentation that we in Tech Services write is basically written "ad hoc" by us using MS Word and kept in a Windows LAN directory. Being an admitt

Re: Merry Christmas

2010-12-22 Thread Andy Robertson
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Merry Christmas

2010-12-22 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello List, Wish all members of this list a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year. Thank you for your help. Sergio Lima Costa Sao Paulo - Brazil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread John McKown
I could do that. But I'll run into resistance. I have the HTTPD server running. And some minor Web sites on it which I wrote. The problem is that management knows that our z software bill is MSU dependent. So they are always looking to reduce MSUs. Which translates to "don't run anything on the z u

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread John McKown
I'm leaning towards DocBook. It is a markup language. And uses XML. Which means it is "plain text" in that I can edit it using anything that I want to. And there are XML tools out the ... to process the data. Also, DocBook uses an independent standard from OASIS for its schema. On Tue, 2010-12-21

Re: curiousity question: in-house doc

2010-12-22 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi John, In connection with your query about what installations may use for documentation have you considered the mainframe's WEB Server capability? The choices are direct HTTP Server, or the use of CICS to delivery static content. The latter offer scope for HTML documents to be stored in either