Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-31 Thread Richards, Robert B.
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance But I do think that the important number is that of paid attendees. For me this is the most important number. It is based on this that vendors will continue to support Share as it should be supported. I work for a vendor that had a booth at Share

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-30 Thread Brian Peterson
Not quite right. There were 1,081 folks in Orlando at SHARE. See the wrap-up article published on the SHARE web site for more details about the event: http://www.share.org/Events/PastConferences/SHAREinOrlando/OrlandoWrapUpArticle/tabid/787/Default.aspx Brian From: Carl Swanson Date: Sun,

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-30 Thread Carl Swanson
: SHARE Attendance Not quite right. There were 1,081 folks in Orlando at SHARE. See the wrap-up article published on the SHARE web site for more details about the event: http://www.share.org/Events/PastConferences/SHAREinOrlando/OrlandoWrapUpArti cle/tabid/787/Default.aspx Brian From: Carl

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-30 Thread Linda Mooney
- Original Message - From: Carl Swanson carl.swans...@verizon.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:25:47 PM Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance But I do think that the important number is that of paid attendees. For me this is the most important number. It is based

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-28 Thread Carl Swanson
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance I was at SHARE in Anaheim (couldn't go to Orlando); skipped dinner to be sure not to miss SCIDS . I

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-16 Thread John Eells
Edward Jaffe wrote: On 8/15/2011 9:00 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's something of a mystery to me. I didn't go to that reception because there simply wasn't time to get to dinner and back before it ended.

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-16 Thread Schneck.Glenn
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris On 15 Aug 2011 14:12:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 8/15

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/16/2011 5:03 AM, Schneck.Glenn wrote: Not sure what happened. Kristin Harper and the zNextgen were involved in the sing along but not sure what the deal was this time. From the CICS Project I can say it was a lame 'Farewell SCIDS'. Was there a sing-along in Anaheim? -- Edward E Jaffe

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-16 Thread Schneck.Glenn
I believe so, but it was small and did not go real late either. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance On 8/16/2011 5:03

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-16 Thread Linda Mooney
@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:10:24 AM Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance I believe so, but it was small and did not go real late either. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Schneck.Glenn
SHARE attendance was higher than the last summer meeting (Boston) and a bit smaller than this past spring (Anaheim). Glenn -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Jeff Holst
I wonder if what I observed at another (not SHARE) conference held at the Dolphin a number of years ago held true. Morning sessions were generally well attended, but afternoon sessions not so much as a lot of participants headed for the parks.

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Schneck.Glenn
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance I like the UPC type square encoding my vcard information. Or just an index number into a Share attendance database of vcard information, available to all Share members or only those attending (I don't care which, but it must not go outside of those

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:59 PM If attendance at the various receptions is any indication, SHARE attendance was definitely DOWN in Orlando. Crowds at the CICS sessions I attended

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Ed Gould
Glenn, Agh that#39; s the problem that is not always the case. Even now it#39;s a about 10 percent that it isn#39;t. Usually it#39;s the Important one that isn#39;t. Granted the situation better now but it#39;s still about 10 percent chance that it#39;s not. I can#39;t give you specifics as

Re: SHARE Attendance -- Thursday SCIDS

2011-08-15 Thread Jack Schudel
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's something of a mystery to me. But I enjoyed the discussion I heard between two 20-something programmers about

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread John P Kalinich
Greg Shirey of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/15/2011 11:00:20 AM: The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's something of a mystery to me. The absence of Chuck Forney and Robert Rannie probably has something to

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/15/2011 9:00 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's something of a mystery to me. I didn't go to that reception because there simply wasn't time to get to dinner and back before it ended. -- Edward E Jaffe

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Aug 2011 14:12:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 8/15/2011 9:00 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's something of a mystery to me. I didn't go to that reception because there simply wasn't time to

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-15 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris On 15 Aug 2011 14:12:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 8/15/2011 9:00 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: The farewell reception (aka SCIDS for the old timers) was really poorly attended - that's

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Finnell
What if we had 'smart dots' on the SHARE badges? Oh well, just trying to help meld the techies and management aspects. The old trick used to be a business card for a copy of the session handouts or added to the 'mailing list'. Think I've still got a business card folder with a few

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Gould
Ed, Are you suggesting that each badge holder have a spot reader or the spot reader be stationed throughout SHARE? I would object to the later. Possible alternative might be one of those square(ish) UPC type encoded with your name and address for proceeding handouts? Ed

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Thomas Kern
I like the UPC type square encoding my vcard information. Or just an index number into a Share attendance database of vcard information, available to all Share members or only those attending (I don't care which, but it must not go outside of those boundaries). /Tom Kern On 8/14/2011 14:59, Ed

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Finnell
There's probably an APP to do this, just requires a smart phone and an insertable antennae for broader coverage.vbg. In a message dated 8/14/2011 3:21:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com writes: Or just an index number into a Share attendance database of vcard

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Schramm I really hope that your skepticism is unfounded and that SHARE attendance is up. If attendance at the various receptions is any indication, SHARE attendance was definitely DOWN in Orlando. Crowds

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Russell Witt
Of Chase, John Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Schramm I really hope that your skepticism is unfounded and that SHARE attendance is up. If attendance

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Gould
about getting to the session early and a seat. Ed From: Chase, John jch...@ussco.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/12/2011 8:51 AM, Schneck.Glenn wrote: Attendence was up from Boston and close to Anaheim. It seems up from past years and the sessions were very good and well attended. Attendance in the 11AM Monday MVS Core Technologies Project Opening was 16.5% higher than in Anaheim. (We had 162 in

SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Zelden
Wow! SHARE sold out its room allocation at the Dolphin. Overflow at the Swan also sold out. Some people are staying at an off-site hotel. So did it appear that attendance was up for this SHARE? Any real numbers? Or was there just lack of hotels for other reasons. Regards, Mark -- Mark

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Rob Schramm
I really hope that your skepticism is unfounded and that SHARE attendance is up. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: Wow! SHARE sold out its room allocation at the Dolphin. Overflow at the Swan also sold

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I didn't read it as skepticism, more of curiosity. I, too, hope SHARE attendance is up too, and am curious, as Mark is, to know what the numbers are. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Friday, August

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Zelden
that your skepticism is unfounded and that SHARE attendance is up. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: Wow! SHARE sold out its room allocation at the Dolphin. Overflow at the Swan also sold out. Some people

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Rob Schramm
...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:10:05 -0400, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com wrote: I really hope that your skepticism is unfounded and that SHARE attendance is up

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Ed Finnell
The Angry Birds IPO is issued at $1.2B, who woulda thunk? In a message dated 8/12/2011 10:37:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rob.schr...@gmail.com writes: political double-speak as of late -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: SHARE Attendance

2011-08-12 Thread Schneck.Glenn
Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance Sorry Mark.. maybe it is just me... I suppose I have fallen into a bit of pit of skepticism listening to all the political double-speak as of late. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-18 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I was too busy snubbing Sam to get them all. Not really, I got the lowdown on the peel-off labels. From what I saw, three of the Route 22 labels were taken. I had to ask why 22, and learned the age. And the relevance of the elephant? Twelve of those appeared to be taken. So did the twelve to

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-18 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:14:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: had to ask why 22, and learned the age. And the relevance of the elephant? Twelve of those appeared to be taken. So did the twelve to 15 of you who took labels ever find someone wearing one? Just

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-18 Thread Skip Robinson
.EDU Re: Share Attendance 08/18/2008 10:10

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-18 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/19/2008 12:20:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if I met up with another Route 22... The idea was from the 'information super highway'... **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip If so, and if someone will give me the missing date ranges, I'll look around and try to find my archives which should be pretty complete. (I just hope that I don't have to get them off of a 3480 cartridge, which I basically can't

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-08-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/30/2008 at 11:44 AM, Leonard D Woren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If so, and if someone will give me the missing date ranges, I'll look around and try to find my archives which should be pretty complete. (I just hope that I don't have to get them off of a 3480

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip Well, it might be that it was cheaper than lugging and storing. All for times gone by, buttoned down minds and pinheads drive me to distraction. Lost funding for SHARE long time ago, haven't been back since early nineties. Was

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/2/2008 10:10:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sarcasm intended!!! Yeah, the other heavy hitter is 'room service rates' for the chips at SCIDS. Last time I saw numbers it was $16 a bowl(but that was 1991) other sources say it's really high

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-01 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Yes Ed, it is. So is saying 'put up open easels' without thinking through how to make that happen. (Patience - I'll get to what happens these days.) These open easels need to come from somewhere. Since SHARE is a User Group, it takes users with ideas to help move it along into an action. Just

Re: Share Attendance

2008-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/1/2008 11:29:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm lucky to sit low on the org chart and not have to deal with how money gets spent. But I can think, 'would you be happy if we raised registration by a buck per person so these easels can just be

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-31 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
There used to always be an IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS. I think it had disappeared last time I was there. ... I heard SHARE requested it be disbanded because only SHARE projects or programs were allowed official tables. This may have happened when SCIDS was replaced by Meet the Projects. Rumors

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/31/2008 9:55:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: was sheparding banners for other projects and the MVS banner is now handled in this fashion. We still have our own stand. IBM-MAIN is sitting in someone's house. Seems silly to me. Put up open

IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-07-30 Thread Leonard D Woren
Ed Finnell wrote on 7/29/2008 7:15 AM: [snip] Darren is the only owner it's ever had, IBM-Main celebrated it's 22nd birthday in June. Rats... I didn't subscribe until July 1986. Unless it's already been done somewhere, someday I'm going to dig up all of the list traffic and produce a

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Unless it's already been done somewhere, someday I'm going to dig up all of the list traffic and produce a graph of average posts/day by month. My understanding is that some of the early years were lost from the archives. And, quite frankly, I cannot even remember when I started my first

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2008 1:24:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: be amusing would be tallies of subscribers by number of years subscribed. Of course, with email addresses changing this would be a quite difficult statistic to do accurately. (I'm on about my 6th

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-07-30 Thread Leonard D Woren
Ted MacNEIL wrote on 7/30/2008 11:36 AM: My understanding is that some of the early years were lost from the archives. If so, and if someone will give me the missing date ranges, I'll look around and try to find my archives which should be pretty complete. (I just hope that I don't have

Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)

2008-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2008 1:44:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: around and try to find my archives which should be pretty complete. (I just hope that I don't have to get them off of a 3480 cartridge, which I basically can't do.) Darren will have to answer

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread John P Kalinich
Ed Finnell of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/28/2008 03:24:02 PM: In a message dated 7/28/2008 3:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This may have happened when SCIDS was replaced by Meet the Projects. Fraid it's more subliminal

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/29/2008 7:29:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for IBM-MAIN. I remember the days when there were hundreds of SHARE Posts and many replies to the posts. At my last SHARE in Baltimore I think there were just 2 SHARE Posts and no

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- Yes, IBM-MAIN no longer has an official table, but you can usually spot IBM-Main members at either the MVS, JES2 or JES3 table. However, I generally find that the easiest way to meet IBM-Main'ers at SCIDS to stand around the

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:09:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd love to meet other members face-to-face, but the economics are prohibitive in my case. Maybe when SHARE comes back to Chicago... I'll make ibm-main Dots if anybody does that kind of stuff

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Graeme Gibson
Pat O'Keefe wrote: I won't be there. Snub someone for me. :-) ..and John Chase wrote: I'll be absent as well. Please snub Ed Jaffe, Chris Craddock, Bob Yelavich, and whoever else comes to mind for me. :-) Well, how thrillingd to see the birth of a Chorus of Snubs! Not unknown in

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Castro
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Gibson Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share Attendance Pat O'Keefe wrote: I won't be there. Snub someone for me. :-) ..and John Chase wrote: I'll be absent as well. Please snub Ed Jaffe, Chris Craddock, Bob

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-29 Thread Edward Jaffe
Graeme Gibson wrote: So much time, so little to do! (WW) And, though clever, your whimsical post demonstrates quite clearly that some people have far, far too much of it! :-) Sorry you won't be joining us... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite

Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Gang, My boss approved me going to Share in San Jose next weekend. If you would like to meet the face behind the emails, I will be wearing my Doctor Who Tee-shirt at SCIDS. Just come up and say hi. Would love to meet the faces behind the names. Lizette

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Gary Green
Not that I will be there, but I must ask... WHICH Doctor Who will it be? On Mon Jul 28 12:19 , Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gang, My boss approved me going to Share in San Jose next weekend. If you would like to meet the face behind the emails, I will be wearing my Doctor Who

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Tony B.
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Share Attendance Gang, My boss approved me going to Share in San Jose next weekend. If you would like to meet the face behind the emails, I will be wearing my Doctor Who Tee-shirt at SCIDS. Just come up and say hi. Would love to meet the faces behind the names. Lizette

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Lionel B Dyck
As others have indicated they are returning to SHARE after a long absence I too will be returning to this SHARE after being away for over 5 years. Y'all have been warned :-) Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
In my humble opinion - David Tennet is the BEST. Used to think it was Tom Baker, but I really like the way DT does it. Lizette -Original Message- From: Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2008 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share Attendance Not that I

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Miller, Pat
: Share Attendance Gang, My boss approved me going to Share in San Jose next weekend. If you would like to meet the face behind the emails, I will be wearing my Doctor Who Tee-shirt at SCIDS. Just come up and say hi. Would love to meet the faces behind the names. Lizette

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:22:50 -0500, Miller, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to always be an IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS. I think it had disappeared last time I was there. ... I heard SHARE requested it be disbanded because only SHARE projects or programs were allowed official tables.

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe [ snip ] I won't be there. Snub someone for me. :-) I'll be absent as well. Please snub Ed Jaffe, Chris Craddock, Bob Yelavich, and whoever else comes to mind for me. :-) -jc-

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share Attendance On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:22:50 -0500, Miller, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to always be an IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS. I think it had disappeared last time I was there. ... I heard SHARE

Re: Share Attendance

2008-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/28/2008 3:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This may have happened when SCIDS was replaced by Meet the Projects. Fraid it's more subliminal than that. So you have a list that transmogrifies most projects and has been in existence since

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: Considering the decline in the number of mainframe shops, the decline in SHARE attendance is understandable. And lamentable. SHARE was formed at a time when intercommunication between installations was limited and systems had many problems. For decades, SHARE

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006 at 06:43 AM, Denise P. Kalm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less sexist back when people cared. Doesn't the parliamentary form The chair recognizes foo go back much further than that? --

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
that was around 5000. I remember it being commented on at the General Session. Considering the decline in the number of mainframe shops, the decline in SHARE attendance is understandable. And lamentable. i remember several shares being regularly on the order of 5000 and comments about

Re: SHARE Attendance

2006-09-15 Thread Bob Shannon
in October 1968 and the second in Washington in 1998. The combined attendance in 1968 was about 3500 and in 1998 about 2100. Peek SHARE attendance was 5806 in Anaheim in 1990. The high attendance was the catalyst for IBM to begin running its own conferences. SHARE develops a budget

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-15 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
. Considering the decline in the number of mainframe shops, the decline in SHARE attendance is understandable. And lamentable. Pat O'Keefe This may be a issue of my grammar, or lack there of. I will try to restate what I was told, just to clear it up a bit. Of the Share's held during the late 90's

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-15 Thread Gabe Goldberg
As SHARE attendance increased, the number of cities where it would fit dwindled. I believe there was indeed a Task Force on Growth (TFOG) which considered constraining attendance. Based on the attendance trend (from 6000 down to 1000 or so) since TFOG was chartered, this was clearly one

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Denise P. Kalm
/2006 04:55 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: SHARE attendance In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/13/2006 at 02:57 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [2] Newspeak for chairman. No; the use

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Jon Brock
I know some people who are essentially inanimate objects. Me, before I have had my coffee, for instance. Jon snip Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less sexist back when people cared. Chairperson was awkward and this seemed to work for some. It has

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Arthur T.
On 14 Sep 2006 06:44:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less sexist back when people cared. My 1953 Webster's 2nd gives presiding officer as one of the

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Chairs, chairpersons, sponsors, speakers, and pundits aside, maybe it's time for SHARE to virtualize. A company could opt for a video conference into a specific session, or sessions, and pay a usage fee. Between travel costs and extra security measures, it is getting quite costly, isn't it?

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread John P Kalinich
Arthur T wrote... For instance, how does the attendance match up with prior years, especially those years when dinosaurs ruled the world? Some of the old sysprogs around here say that 5,000+ was the norm for the west coast meetings in the 1970-1980's. Then it tapered off to 2,000+ after that.

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Tom Harper
John, Actually, as in almost all statistics, there are numbers and there are numbers. The 1100 number represents the number of full week paid attendance. I believe the total attendance, which counts partial week, etc., was slightly over 2,000, which is what the other numbers you mentioned

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:25:09 -0500, Tom Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, what exactly was the bad press Baltimore received on this list? I thought SHARE was vibrant and full of excellent sessions. Perhaps it had something to do with not being able to take toothpaste in your carry-on

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:07:57 -0400, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 06:44:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less sexist back when people cared.

Re: ListServe Restrictions (WAS: SHARE attendance)

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:33:27 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think his draconian restriction has pushed the envelope of trying to understand discourse. Uncalled for! His list serve: his rules. You don't like it; unsubscribe. ... Add to that, one person's draconian restriction

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:25 -0500 on 09/14/2006, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: SHARE attendance: I took Tom's original comment about talking furniture to be an attempt at humor. And it was the funniest thing I'd seen in a while. It was a good thing I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when I read it! Tom

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SHARE attendance snip Tom might be a fan of Piers Anthony's Xanth Fantasy series where

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:07:57 -0400, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 06:44:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound less sexist back

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
of mainframe shops, the decline in SHARE attendance is understandable. And lamentable. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Phil Smith III
John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? Someone emailed me offline and said it was low. Can anyone confirm/ clarify the numbers? One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000. Budget was for 1100; paid

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:37:15 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000. Do you hear furniture talking often, or was that the only time it has happened to you? -- Tom

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 9/13/2006 1:49:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000. On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:37:15 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 13, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:37:15 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000. Do you hear furniture talking often, or was

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:10:41 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:37:15 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000.

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Ed Gould
There have been 1 or 2 comments that people thought the chairs comment was mine. I think there was too much snippage to get by the robo that I believe Darren has set up. I know I have been bounced because of this restriction. I think that the restriction put up by Darren is a little too

Re: ListServe Restrictions (WAS: SHARE attendance)

2006-09-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think his draconian restriction has pushed the envelope of trying to understand discourse. Uncalled for! His list serve: his rules. You don't like it; unsubscribe. BTW, I think those comments should be sent to him directly. NOT griped about in public. If I were in charge, I would drop you

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 9/13/2006 4:18:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There have been 1 or 2 comments that people thought the chairs comment was mine. I did, and I regret not taking a few more seconds to review the previous posts. The comment involving chairs

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/13/2006 at 02:57 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [2] Newspeak for chairman. No; the use of chair to refer to the office is old. IANAP, but I believe that there is a subtle difference between chair and chairman, possibly that the former

Re: ListServe Restrictions (WAS: SHARE attendance)

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:33:27 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think his draconian restriction has pushed the envelope of trying to understand discourse. Uncalled for! His list serve: his rules. I, for one, would not like to go back to the old days when hundreds of lines were quoted

Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-12 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Ed Gould wrote: Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? Someone emailed me offline and said it was low. Can anyone confirm/ clarify the numbers? Ed One of the chairs said that it was less than 2,000.

SHARE attendance

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Gould
Anyone have the number for attendance of SHARE in Baltimore? Someone emailed me offline and said it was low. Can anyone confirm/ clarify the numbers? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

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