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We h
Yeah, but ACME brand disk can't do a million IOPS (even bigger grin)
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migration took care of itself.
HTH
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Subject: Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class
What I concerns are:
1. Tape still have life time, i
://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9195959/EMC_buys_mainframe_virtual_tape_library_vendor_Bus_Tech
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On W
The TS7720 also has throttling mechanismes.
Kees.
"Tommy Tsui" wrote in message
news:...
> For B20 if cache full, we will encounter a throttling write/read, is
it
> still happen in 7720 model, or have enhancement on throttling
read/write ?
>
>
>
>
> 2012/3/29 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
>
> > "S
>>Darth,
You said " HDS now sells the Falconstor's VTL instead."
To be pedantic, that's not entirely true. We have a lot of successful
Falconstore implementations on the dark side of the computer room, but for
mainframe you need something that virtualizes mainframe tape drives like
Luminex or Secu
For B20 if cache full, we will encounter a throttling write/read, is it
still happen in 7720 model, or have enhancement on throttling read/write ?
2012/3/29 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> "Scott Chapman" wrote in message
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> > We're just fi
"Scott Chapman" wrote in message
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> We're just finishing up migration from a B20 Peer to Peer solution to
a 7720-7720-7740 three-way grid solution. Performance has been much
better, no surprise there. I'd say we've been pretty happy, but
We're just finishing up migration from a B20 Peer to Peer solution to a
7720-7720-7740 three-way grid solution. Performance has been much better, no
surprise there. I'd say we've been pretty happy, but we're currently tracking
down a cache management issue that cropped up with one of the 7720s
W dniu 2012-03-29 06:31, Ron Hawkins pisze:
Darth,
You said " HDS now sells the Falconstor's VTL instead."
To be pedantic, that's not entirely true. We have a lot of successful
Falconstore implementations on the dark side of the computer room, but for
mainframe you need something that virtualiz
r
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>
> >>Have you considered EMC DLm or Bus-tech MDL (EMC owns Bus-tech
> now).
> I have not worked with MDL (which I think is m
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:15:26 -0500, Darth Keller
wrote:
>>>Have you considered EMC DLm or Bus-tech MDL (EMC owns Bus-tech now).
>I have not worked with MDL (which I think is more of a "small shop"
>solution),
>but I have with DLm.I've also worked with VSM, but it was always
>>>backed by phys
>>Have you considered EMC DLm or Bus-tech MDL (EMC owns Bus-tech now).
I have not worked with MDL (which I think is more of a "small shop"
solution),
but I have with DLm.I've also worked with VSM, but it was always
>>backed by physical tape. BTW, the vendor is Oracle now, not Sun.
So my
nt: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:34 AM
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>
> Our shop use B20 almost 5 years and sometime the IBM CE will notify me
the
> tape cannot be recovered or the Gripper cannot move , some time need
to
>
s 3-4
> hours and that means NO tape access for that period.
> Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Tommy Tsui
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it often takes 3-4 hours and that
means NO tape access for that period.
Dennis
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Subject: Re: Tapeless solut
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:16:01 +0800, Tommy Tsui wrote:
>Hi ALL,
>
>Our shop currently using VTS B20, and planning to either migrate the 7740
>(no migration need) or migrate to tapeless 7720 or Sun storageTek VSM
>tapeless solution. Any shop using 7740 or 7720 or storageTek tapeles
For those few of you that also run zTPF: this OS is very sensitive to
slight abnormalties and IBM tested and certified the TS7720 with zTPF
and we still found some problems in the beginning, that were solved
working with IBM. You should be careful with other vendors that have not
proven their devic
Ditto for us.
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We have 2 7720
We have 2 7720 clusters in a grid configuration and are very happy with
it.
Kees.
"Tommy Tsui" wrote in message
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> Our shop use B20 almost 5 years and sometime the IBM CE will notify me
the
> tape cannot be recovered or the Gripper cannot move , some time need
to
> reboot the library co
Our shop use B20 almost 5 years and sometime the IBM CE will notify me the
tape cannot be recovered or the Gripper cannot move , some time need to
reboot the library console and re-inventory again. Any problems when use
VTS 7720? anyone can share?
-
W dniu 2012-03-28 13:58, Tommy Tsui pisze:
What I concerns are:
1. Tape still have life time, if 1TB tape damage then we need more time to
re-built or re-create it, except you implement dual copy or PPRC VTS and it
cost you more.
Tape (real one) can be duplexed. In that case you can read data jus
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What I concerns are:
1. Tape still have life time, if 1TB tape damage then we need more time to
re-built or re-create it
"Tommy Tsui" wrote in message
news:...
> What I concerns are:
> 1. Tape still have life time, if 1TB tape damage then we need more
time to
> re-built or re-create it, except you implement dual copy or PPRC VTS
and it
> cost you more.
Can you really recreate all your data on tape??? If not, you ne
Add Tivoli Tape Optimizer to your list of migration utilities.
Bob
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Subject: Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun
What I concerns are:
1. Tape still have life time, if 1TB tape damage then we need more time to
re-built or re-create it, except you implement dual copy or PPRC VTS and it
cost you more.
2. Tape migration is my concern, I think disk to disk migration is more
faster solution. I can't find any migrat
gt; (no migration need) or migrate to tapeless 7720 or Sun storageTek VSM
> tapeless solution. Any shop using 7740 or 7720 or storageTek tapeless
> solution. In market, I think all customer will use tapeless soultion
> instead of IBM 7740. Is it TRUE?
-
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Tommy Tsui
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class
Hi ALL,
Our shop currently using VTS B20, and planning to either migrate the
Hi ALL,
Our shop currently using VTS B20, and planning to either migrate the 7740
(no migration need) or migrate to tapeless 7720 or Sun storageTek VSM
tapeless solution. Any shop using 7740 or 7720 or storageTek tapeless
solution. In market, I think all customer will use tapeless soultion
entation
>> 9969.
>>
>> Russell
>>
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>> Behalf Of R.S.
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:41 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: Tapel
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> Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:41 AM
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> Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
>
> W dniu 2011-12-24 18:43, Russell Witt pisze:
> > Not true at all. CA-Vtape can optionally use "open system" storage, but
&g
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Actually we only have home written tape management system therefor it is
not easy for us migrate from current vts to other tapeless solution. Anyone
heard about innovation tapecopy I think it can help
On 2011-12-29 上午9:17, "Russell Witt" wrote:
> Ron,
>
> I talked to the Arc
V.
HTH,
Linda
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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:09:31 PM
Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Radoslaw,
Sorry, the only link is to the SHARE web-site to lookup presentations.
http://proceedings.s
.
Russell Witt
CA 1 L2 Support Manager
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Ron Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:04 AM
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Russell,
Thanks for your reply. I must admit
rtual" into the Title search and selecting presentation 9969.
Russell
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W dniu 2011-
age-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
> Russell Witt
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Tapeless Solutions
>
> Ron,
>
> As a backstore device, yes. As t
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W dniu 2011-12-24 10:50, Tommy Tsui pisze:
It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm
or 7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution
what is pros and cons
Well, I never said that. BusTech MDL
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W dniu 2011-12-24 10:50, Tommy Tsui pisze:
> It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless sol
W dniu 2011-12-24 10:50, Tommy Tsui pisze:
It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm or
7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution what is
pros and cons
Well, I never said that. BusTech MDL is also a choice, as well as
Luminex product or Interkom
It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm or
7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution what is
pros and cons
On 2011-12-24 上午8:52, "R.S." wrote:
> W dniu 2011-12-23 20:44, Cosby, Bob - OCFO pisze:
>
>> At the time of this
W dniu 2011-12-23 20:44, Cosby, Bob - OCFO pisze:
At the time of this tape implementation we were utilizing 3490 1.8gbs tapes and
9849C 20gbs uncompressed /40gbs
compressed tapes so by definition 75gbs uncompressed I would consider that to
be High capacity;
At the same time you had T1 (A) d
2011 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
W dniu 2011-12-23 19:20, Cosby, Bob - OCFO pisze:
> We replaced 10 STK silos with a VSM/SL8500; instead of shipping 2,500 - 3,000
> 3490 tapes to Iron Mountain
> for Disaster Recovery on a daily basis we are now ship
Timothy:
Semi off topic but germane to your entry.
LONG LONG ago (and in New Jersey) the company I worked for had opened
a data center building and was going to bring in new IBM mainframe.
The company had hired a bunch of "experts" from a company that was
relocating.
The people came out and m
W dniu 2011-12-23 19:20, Cosby, Bob - OCFO pisze:
We replaced 10 STK silos with a VSM/SL8500; instead of shipping 2,500 - 3,000
3490 tapes to Iron Mountain
for Disaster Recovery on a daily basis we are now shipping less than 100 9840
high capacity tapes.
High capacity?
9840D - 75GB (native)
T
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Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Our shop currently use vts b20 and there is no way migrate to Vts 7720 .
Any shop replace b20 vts with other tapeless solutions such emc bustech or
sun storgtek vsm solution or 7720.
On 2011-12-23 下午7:27, "Ron Hawkins" wr
: Tapeless Solutions
Russell,
Do you think that CA-Vtape would also be a good fit with large capacity
SAS/SATA array groups, or virtualized midrange storage arrays presented as
Mainframe volumes (3390A)?
Ron
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IB
Our shop currently use vts b20 and there is no way migrate to Vts 7720 .
Any shop replace b20 vts with other tapeless solutions such emc bustech or
sun storgtek vsm solution or 7720.
On 2011-12-23 下午7:27, "Ron Hawkins" wrote:
> Russell,
>
> Do you think that CA-Vtape would
Behalf Of
> Russell Witt
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:31 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Tapeless Solutions
>
> While the cache is MF DASD (which gives it great performance when writing and
> reading from cache), CA-Vtape now has the ability
It's called a DS8800. Works great, small footprint. Has many replication/backup
options. I would guess that the TCO is actually less than most tape or VTS
solutions.
You might combine with HSM to enjoy some compression and management features.
Of course, you can still be 'tapeless
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>I think it's typical gap between shining theory and stinking practice. ;-)
G r o a n ! ! ! ;-D
Lets me think of this saying:
Persons never having a child have 1001 shining theories on how to raise a
baby/toddler/teenager/wannabe-adult
Persons with a child (one or man
W dniu 2011-12-22 06:42, Timothy Sipples pisze:
Now that I think about it, if the door to your data center isn't tall
enough, IBM has a solution. Your new mainframe can be shipped topless,
although that's not the exact term for it. Topless mainframe shipment is
not recommended unless you really d
Now that I think about it, if the door to your data center isn't tall
enough, IBM has a solution. Your new mainframe can be shipped topless,
although that's not the exact term for it. Topless mainframe shipment is
not recommended unless you really do have an unavoidably short entry door
since IBM h
On 22/12/2011 07:06 AM, Bobbie Justice wrote:
You're not the only one, I did the same thing.
Bobbie Jo Justice
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ot heard of
> any vendor offering a topless solution for our tape processing.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of shai hess
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.u
48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Yes, I also read it as TOPLESS, so I smile.
I hope I did not make to myself bad name, more then before.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Timothy Sipples
wrote:
> Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly,
Heh
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:59 PM
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Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly, mentally
Yes, I also read it as TOPLESS, so I smile.
I hope I did not make to myself bad name, more then before.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
> Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly, mentally
> substituting an "o" for the "a" and dropping the first "e"?
>
> I
Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly, mentally
substituting an "o" for the "a" and dropping the first "e"?
I must be regressing.
Timothy Sipples
Resident Enterprise Architec
t used CA Vtape, so I can't speak to that, but if you
do not have to use IBM, this might be worth a look.
Steve
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:35:32 +, Henke, George wrote:
>Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution and what it might cost?
>
>I have heard of the TS774
AMEN my brother!
Richard and Vickie Pinion
--- shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:
From: shai hess
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:52:14 +0200
MFNetDisk also support tapeless solution for emulated tapes.
MFNetDisk tape emulation let you select
W dniu 2011-12-19 23:52, Henke, George pisze:
Offloading VTAPE to zIIP would not be so bad, no?
No.
(my opinion)
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MFNetDisk also support tapeless solution for emulated tapes.
MFNetDisk tape emulation let you select MFNetDisk tape manager soultion or
CA or IBM or any other tape manager solution.
MF only trasfer the data and the CCW commands to PC and by that reduce the
CPU utilization in MF.
The PC emulates
-term storage. The nice
thing about a software solution such as CA-Vtape is that it gives you many
different options.
If you want a truely "Tapeless Solution" and don't mind keeping un-used and
un-referenced data on dasd for decades (not very "green" of you) then someth
Offloading VTAPE to zIIP would not be so bad, no?
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W dniu 2011-12-19 23:02, Henke
:
> From: "Henke, George"
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: 12/19/2011 04:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
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> Will CA VTAPE work on regular MF or does it need the DS8800.
>
> -Original Message-
W dniu 2011-12-19 23:02, Henke, George pisze:
Will CA VTAPE work on regular MF or does it need the DS8800.
What???
CA VTAPE is from software being sold by CA. DS8800 is a DASD box being
sold by IBM.
CA VTAPE works on any mainframe DASD.
I don't know what does it mean "work on regular MF".
BT
Will CA VTAPE work on regular MF or does it need the DS8800.
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Linda Mooney
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Hi George,
If
pe management (CA-1)? I don't think so.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Tapeless Soluti
orage...
Regards,
Silvio Camplani
zSeries Sr. Analyst, Systems Support
Bombardier
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 08:35 PM, Henke, George wrote:
> Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution and what it might
> cost?
>
> I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw.
&g
In
<04b3da7b71b3ab408ca62ba6046bcf8f23d485b...@gvw0676exc.americas.hpqcorp.net>,
on 12/16/2011
at 08:35 PM, "Henke, George" said:
>Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution
Solution to what? Hot backup is a tapeless solution to off-site
backup, but I have no
ely tapeless solution and what it might
> cost?
>
> I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw.
>
> We have 750 TB on tape.
>
>
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>
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Linda
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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:36:18 PM
Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions
Does the DS8800 do tape management (CA-1)? I don't think so.
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Does the DS8800 do tape management (CA-1)? I don't think so.
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&
"Henke, George" wrote in message
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> Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution and what it
might cost?
>
> I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw.
&g
:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Tapeless Solutions
Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution and what it might cost?
I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw.
We have 750 TB on tape
Yes...
It is called the TS7720. We have three of them in a "Grid Configutation", I
believe that each frame could accomodate up to 162 TB of storage (without
compression). You should talk to your IBM rep for the exact specs.
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I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw.
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> Are there any hospitals using Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway) or Bustech
> (MDL) Tapeless appliances. We are looking for sites that have these in
> production to share their experience.
we aren't hospital either. We replaced our old 3494 with an MDL-2000 from
Bus-Tech
about
2:43 PM
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Subject: Tapeless - MDL or Luminex
Are there any hospitals using Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway) or
Bustech
(MDL) Tapeless appliances. We are looking for sites that have these in
production to share their exper
Not a hospital, but have Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway)in front of
Data Domain® deduplication storage with replication to offsite.
No tape or VTS.
Dale McCart
Senior Systems Programmer / zSeries, z/OS, z/VM, zLinux
Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A.
Telephone: (949) 770-0400 extension 2316
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Behalf Of David Hanson
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Tapeless - MDL or Luminex
Are there any hospitals using Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway) or
Bustech
(MDL) Tapeless
2:42:54 PM
Subject: Tapeless - MDL or Luminex
Are there any hospitals using Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway) or Bustech
(MDL) Tapeless appliances. We are looking for sites that have these in
production to share their experience.
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Are there any hospitals using Luminex(Mainframe Channel Gateway) or Bustech
(MDL) Tapeless appliances. We are looking for sites that have these in
production to share their experience.
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> Following up on a previous thread -
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> We are currently 'tapeless' in that our primary DR strategy is near
real time dasd mirroring via XRC
Following up on a previous thread -
We are currently 'tapeless' in that our primary DR strategy is near real time
dasd mirroring via XRC. Tape is used for local PIT backup/restore and for
secondary PIT offsite sotrage.
We are looking at a VTS to expand that capacity. However, so
Howard Brazee pisze:
On 18 Nov 2009 07:26:26 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
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I heard about (poor in fact) tapeless mainframe shop. Everytime they had
to install something from tape it was a nightmare: someone had to visit
"best colleague" shop with tapes and dow
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> Pretty much the same here. Been physical tapeless for a few years
> now.
> The virtual tape dasd is "synced" with an off-site replica of the VTA.
>
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Pretty much the same here. Been physical tapeless for a few years now.
The virtual tape dasd is "synced" with an off-site replica of the VTA.
We use Universal Software's VTA. There were some rocks in the early
road, but pretty much flawless no days.
So far, all ISV has been d
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> How do you plan to handle DR?
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> We have
I consider it a tapeless enviornment even though I use tape as back-store
as it is a closed system. No media out, no media in, except to add
capacity. I don't treat the tapes inside the environement any different
than I would for a disk drive. If anything, my increamental increa
On 18 Nov 2009 07:26:26 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
>I heard about (poor in fact) tapeless mainframe shop. Everytime they had
>to install something from tape it was a nightmare: someone had to visit
>"best colleague" shop with tapes and download tap
On 18 Nov 2009 08:00:13 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
>4. Price. Someone wrote that TCO of disk is cheaper than for tape. It is
>ismply not true. Contrary opinion (tape is cheaper) is ...untrue as
>well! What is true: IT DEPENDS. The more data the cheaper tape is. There
>a
On 18 Nov 2009 07:36:35 -0800, bvandergr...@dow.com (van der Grijn,
Bart , B) wrote:
>I'm also intrigued by how those of you that have gone tapeless address
>the traditional tape needs.
>- How do you store backups and archives in your environment? Do they go
>to virtual tape bu
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Good point!
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