Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 29, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > > CA (Computer Associates) still sells JCLFLOW. > Forget even mentioned it. I had no idea it was a CA product. I apologize to the group. Ed --

Antique printer (was: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued)

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:58:05 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Chemical Rubber Company -- I had forgotten that. Still in print: >https://www.crcpress.com/CRC-Handbook-of-Chemistry-and-Physics-98th-Edition/Rumble/p/book/9781498784542 > >or http://bit.ly/2pSMrp1 > >Probably an ammonium salt. Sulfate?

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
Chemical Rubber Company -- I had forgotten that. Still in print: https://www.crcpress.com/CRC-Handbook-of-Chemistry-and-Physics-98th-Edition/Rumble/p/book/9781498784542 or http://bit.ly/2pSMrp1 Probably an ammonium salt. Sulfate? Carbonate? Chloride? Charles -Original Message-

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:47:52 -0400, Edward Finnell wrote: >Think we kept a couple  well into the 90's for 'go back' purposes. Our crack >IBM CE even ordered the special filter for the 3800 to keep ammonia from >crystallizing on the corona wire. > Crystallized ammonia at room temperature? I

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 21:26:04 +, David Boyes wrote: > >> A PTF, of course, can be just FB 80 EBCDIC "simple sequential binary file". > For RECFM=FB, the record boundaries are implicit; easily reconstructed. >Agree , although I'd argue that any fix should have accompanying metadata that >gets

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Finnell
Think we kept a couple  well into the 90's for 'go back' purposes. Our crack IBM CE even ordered the special filter for the 3800 to keep ammonia from crystallizing on the corona wire. In a message dated 3/29/2018 4:43:35 PM Central Standard Time, dbo...@sinenomine.net writes:   I have a

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 4:04 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Finnell" wrote: > What about the 'PUT tapes' delivered on uFiche? We had Datagrafix? fiche > readers with ammonia based printers. After

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:57:43 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >>Are you suggesting that there may be extant contracts requiring IBM to provide >>continuing updates/corrective service on 3480 cartridges? > >Not suggesting that. But if, say, EvilCorp said "We need tapes, damnit, and >will migrate our

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 2:15 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin" wrote: > Are you suggesting that there may be extant contracts requiring IBM to provide > continuing updates/corrective service

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 4:38 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz" wrote: > I believe that the 65 and 67 also used CROS; I'm not sure of the 85. The 3 65s at NASA JSC had microcode loadable from tape, or at least those 3

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
StarTool (and I assume PDS85 from CBT) has a VERIFY function that can be run against all or a subset of a load library. VERIFY reads *and loads* each designated member. If corrupted, a load module seldom loads properly, and you'll get a corresponding abend. If VERIFY is successful, you can be

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Phil Smith
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >(I keep thinking about punched cards.) Yeah, I *almost* went there! >Are you suggesting that there may be extant contracts requiring IBM to provide >continuing updates/corrective service on 3480 cartridges? Not suggesting that. But if, say, EvilCorp said "We need tapes,

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
360/40 Transormer Read Only Storage (TROS) 360/50 Capacitor Read Only Storage I believe that the 65 and 67 also used CROS; I'm not sure of the 85. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > AFAIK, IBM supplied microcode on cards only for the 360/25 and for the 7090 > compatibility microcode on the 360/85 WCS. Most of the S/360 models either > were hard wired or had microcode in ROS, while the S/370 models

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
It is a very weak tool and doesn't relate back to the programs being executed, or the schedules from the batch scheduler. Regards, Mitch McCluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Mike Schwab To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu,

Re: Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
The question is ambiguous, so I'll answer it each way. 1. If you share a subpool with a subtask and that subtask does an ATTACH without sharing that subpool, then the subsubtask does not inherit the shared subpool. 2. If you share a subpool with a subtask, neither the parent task

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Finnell
Don't know for sure about PDSE's and generations. The only one's I ever had were so buggered up had to restore from backup. In a message dated 3/29/2018 3:16:50 PM Central Standard Time, sme...@gmu.edu writes:   Does that work for both PDS and PDSE?

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK, IBM supplied microcode on cards only for the 360/25 and for the 7090 compatibility microcode on the 360/85 WCS. Most of the S/360 models either were hard wired or had microcode in ROS, while the S/370 models either had ROS or loaded microcode from 8" floppies. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does that work for both PDS and PDSE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday,

Re: Adding an Archive volume to the pool

2018-03-29 Thread Greg Shirey
Philip, I believe the example you posted below is attempting to add a candidate volume to the catalog for the data set FDRABR.POOLDISK.ARCHIVE1.If you are trying to add a volume to a storage pool, I think you'll need to go through the ISMF panels. (Unless this is something specific to

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Alan Young
Oh that reminded me... if a site has CA-JCLCHECK, that can produce a flowchart using the GRAPH option. I don't know if the output is similar to JCLFLOW. From: Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Finnell
What about the 'PUT tapes' delivered on uFiche? We had Datagrafix? fiche readers with ammonia based printers. After a weekend of updates my head would hurt for real!  In a message dated 3/29/2018 2:45:11 PM Central Standard Time, dbo...@sinenomine.net writes:   the 8" floppies in the 43XX

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Mike Schwab
CA (Computer Associates) still sells JCLFLOW. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >> On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:22 AM, John McKown >> wrote: >> >> This is a weird idea that is floating around in my head. I am wondering if >>

Re: Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Gord Tomlin wrote: - Dave Rivers - These should help: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa800/pers.htm https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa800/sptbl.htm -- Thanks Gord! I had seen those

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 10:39 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith" wrote: > Ah, remember the good old days: 9370 microcode updates-as several boxes of > floppies! Or those *[unprintable]* 4mm tape cartridges in the ES/9000s. Or

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Finnell
Well maybe. There's also the RECover command that will scan the empty space looking for 47FF's. If it hasn't been compressed the previous version is still in there. Another possibility is that it got written with wrong DCB information. Here again the there's the FIXPDS command to make it all

Adding an Archive volume to the pool

2018-03-29 Thread Watkins, Philip S.
Hey Guys, I am trying to add new DASD volumes to our existing archive pool using IDCAMS and I am getting an VSAM error. RETURN CODE 48 Explanation: Incorrect catalog function. Reason Code Description x Explanation: An internal logic error has occurred. Programmer Response: Contact the IBM

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Tom Conley
On 3/29/2018 2:46 PM, Edward Finnell wrote: CBT File 182 PDS has the VERify {opts} command where opts may be a member or a range of members. Ed beat me to it. VERIFY will ensure that the PDS structure is correct. If your load module is hosed, but not outside its block or unformatted

Re: Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:15:18 -0400 Thomas David Rivers wrote: :>The documentation for "Subpool handling" from the Assembler Services Guide :>indicates that (for subpools 0-127, which are task-related) "when the task :>terminates, the system automatically releases any of the

Re: Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Finnell
CBT File 182 PDS has the VERify {opts} command where opts may be a member or a range of members. In a message dated 3/29/2018 1:28:26 PM Central Standard Time, dbajava...@gmail.com writes:   This is a general question. --

Re: Missing extended mnemonic in zPoP

2018-03-29 Thread Abe Kornelis
Geoff, thanks for the quick reply. I can see it's been documented. The proof of the pudding would have been to see the instruction being assembled correctly. I'll take your word for it, HLASM will assemble it just fine. Kind regards, Abe Kornelis Op 29/03/2018 om 17:01 schreef

Scanning a corrupted Load module member in a DSN

2018-03-29 Thread Peter
Hi, Is there a way to scan a PDS or PDSE load module dataset to see if there is any specific member is corrupted ? This is a general question. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:40:14 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >Ah, remember the good old days: 9370 microcode updates-as several boxes of >floppies! > (I keep thinking about punched cards.) >It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm reminded of an early >manager who, when I asked whether

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:22 AM, John McKown > wrote: > > This is a weird idea that is floating around in my head. I am wondering if > there is any software which can create a "picture", "diagram", or > "flowchart" of JCL? I'm not too sure if this is even a useful

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Alan Young
John McKown wrote: ​I forgot my usual disclaimer: This software must not cost any money. That really limits my options.​ There is file 679 on the CBT tape that may be of use. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 11:23 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown" wrote: This is a weird idea that is floating around in my head. I am wondering if there is any software which can create a "picture", "diagram", or

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
...check JMAN from RES. Top of the line tool. The companion tool, Docet, provides graphical representations of JCL and batch schedules. www.res-it.com/en Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com On Thursday, March 29, 2018 John McKown wrote: This is a weird idea that

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Carmen Vitullo
oh :( - we'll do you have a scheduler? all the 'data' is there normally, and some of the basic reports can provide the input to a user written flowchart program Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "John McKown" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Carmen Vitullo
some time ago I did a couple POC with 2 products that diagrammed workflow from a scheduler, since it got all its info from the scheduler it kept track (flows) of jobs and jobs steps and what datasets feed other jobs and visa vera, Docutext I believe was one of the products. Carmen Vitullo

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Colin van der Ross
I worked with a product a while ago called SMART TS that provides this type of visibility -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Jackson, Rob wrote: > We have SmartIS from Segus that does a really nice job of this. It parses > JCL, PROCs, and sysins and generates very nice flow charts. It also reads > SMF data and generates data/run flows from that. And

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Jackson, Rob
We have SmartIS from Segus that does a really nice job of this. It parses JCL, PROCs, and sysins and generates very nice flow charts. It also reads SMF data and generates data/run flows from that. And it generates job plans, etc., from several scheduling systems, in our case, Zeke. Very

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Doug wrote: > JCLPREP can . > We only use that when testing new releases. > Doug > > ​I forgot my usual disclaimer: This software must not cost any money. That really limits my options.​ -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Reno Puntillo
If you are asking for diagrams or pictures of what is in a specific job or jobs (allocations, files, etc. pictorially), I am not aware of that. If you are asking for diagrams or pictures of your production job flow from job0001 to job0010, dependencies, parent, child relationships, I believe

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Doug
JCLPREP can . We only use that when testing new releases. Doug . On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:23, Dr. Rick Williams wrote: I think it’s a great idea... -- Rick Williams From: John McKown Reply: IBM Mainframe

Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread Dr. Rick Williams
I think it’s a great idea... -- Rick Williams From: John McKown Reply: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: March 29, 2018 at 11:22:40 AM To: ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu

JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-29 Thread John McKown
This is a weird idea that is floating around in my head. I am wondering if there is any software which can create a "picture", "diagram", or "flowchart" of JCL? I'm not too sure if this is even a useful thought. It's just a scratch that I must itch (or something like that). What this may

Re: Missing extended mnemonic in zPoP

2018-03-29 Thread Geoff Rousell
< Anybody care to double-check on HLASM being aware of the WFKHEXBS mnemonic? > The HLASM support is in apar PI62275: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg22001988 Geoff Rousell IBM Z Client Technical Specialist. --

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread David Boyes
On 3/29/18, 6:00 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S." wrote: > The formats like AWSTAPE add unnecessary level of complexity. Any media > used should be treated a s bunch of files - just like electronic >

Re: DFHSM Migration of SYS1 datasets ?

2018-03-29 Thread Max Smith
Dave, We have been working on the rewording the SETMIG command as there is some confusion in the hierarchical order or the SETMIG commands, I will see if we can update that with the fact if you want to change SYS1. data sets you have to specify the period. Max Smith DFSMShsm Development

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread Phil Smith
Ah, remember the good old days: 9370 microcode updates-as several boxes of floppies! This is indeed a fascinating discussion. Amazing how wildly different companies' media requirements are. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm reminded of an early manager who, when I asked

Re: Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-03-29 08:15, Thomas David Rivers wrote: The documentation for "Subpool handling" from the Assembler Services Guide indicates that (for subpools 0-127, which are task-related) "when the task terminates, the system automatically releases any of the subpool from 0 through 127 that are

Re: GitHub setup for Z/os

2018-03-29 Thread Jerry Callen
There are detailed instructions on using the z/OS port of git with GitHub here: https://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/using-git-for-z-os-with-github/654 -- Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: JVM fails to intialize

2018-03-29 Thread Mark Pace
It was working for me until I applied the latest RSU yesterday. Something in the maintenance changed it. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Allan Staller wrote: > Works for me in a 1 GB logon region. MAXASSSIZE=2GB. TSOASSIZMAX=NONE > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: JVM fails to intialize

2018-03-29 Thread Mark Pace
$ /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/java -Xmcrs2048k -version java version "1.8.0_151" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 8.0.5.5 - pmz6480sr5fp5-20171114_01(SR5 FP5)) IBM J9 VM (build 2.9, JRE 1.8.0 z/OS s390x-64 Compressed References 20171102_369060 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) OpenJ9 - 7ade437

Re: JVM fails to intialize

2018-03-29 Thread Allan Staller
Works for me in a 1 GB logon region. MAXASSSIZE=2GB. TSOASSIZMAX=NONE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JVM fails to intialize Just

Re: JVM fails to intialize

2018-03-29 Thread Barbara Nitz
>$ /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/java >-version Try java -Xmcrs2048k -version My colleague who had figured that out set the specified parm somewhere in USS, so now it always works for us just using -version. Regards, Barbara --

Re: Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
When the main task ends all 0-127 memory goes away. Actually, if memory serves me correctly, all memory goes away EXCEPT for the common sub-pools, 225-228, 231, 239, 241, 245-248 that have to be explicitly allocated and freed. Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Mainframe Development P:

JVM fails to intialize

2018-03-29 Thread Mark Pace
Just applied some maintenance to Java. In OMVS $ /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/java -version JVMJ9VM015W Initialization error for library j9gc29(2): Failed to instantiate compressed references metadata; 200M requested Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception has

Subpool sharing and subpool freeing at main task termination

2018-03-29 Thread Thomas David Rivers
The documentation for "Subpool handling" from the Assembler Services Guide indicates that (for subpools 0-127, which are task-related) "when the task terminates, the system automatically releases any of the subpool from 0 through 127 that are unshared and are associated with the task." It then

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-03-28 o 19:56, John Eells pisze: We have had DVD-based delivery 2011 for z/OS platform PTFs and products.  So, we're not quite 20 years behind z/VM (smile). Also, it's not that writing a *different* format would be that difficult, but that *adding* a format would be nontrivial. 

Re: MACRO4: Tracemaster

2018-03-29 Thread Keith Banham
Hi I assume you are asking about PDSEs with regards to Cobol support, and the answer is yes it does. We work closely with IBM to ensure our products support all of IBM's software and hardware enhancements as they are released. If I have assumed wrongly then I apologize. If you have any further

Re: change data capture for VSAM

2018-03-29 Thread Martin Horbach
Hi, the tcVISION product from B.O.S. Software does VSAM CDC amongst other mainframe sources (IMS/DLI, DB2, ADABAS, IDMS, DATACOM, PDS/PS). There are multple capture methods for VSAM available and it handles all VSAM types. More information can be found on their website: www.bossoftware.com