Re: Documentation availability was Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Clark Morris wrote: [Default] On 25 Mar 2016 12:34:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 00e2883cf878-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Eosze, Jonathan L.) wrote: Unfortunately, I have encountered the inability to access Knowledge Center on more than one occasion.

Re: Binder SIZE Option

2016-03-26 Thread Ed Gould
Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Binder SIZE Option Gil, In years past size= made a wonderful difference in performance. I had seen 200 percent improvement. -- For

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-25 Thread Ed Gould
Jonathan, I agree that is why I still insist on HC for a lot of manuals. I have been caught at dark and no computer working (MF or PC). Ed On Mar 25, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Eosze, Jonathan L. wrote: Unfortunately, I have encountered the inability to access Knowledge Center on more than on

Re: Binder SIZE Option

2016-03-25 Thread Ed Gould
Gil, In years past size= made a wonderful difference in performance. I had seen 200 percent improvement. Haven't noticed it with the binder. WIll also be curious as to what other people say. Ed On Mar 25, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: (See what the LEPARM discussion started?)

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-23 Thread Ed Gould
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available Greg: When the first COBOL MVS and VM came out there was no M&C (t

PC World's cloudy backup failed when exposed to ransomware

2016-03-22 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/03/22/ pc_world_knowhow_shortcomings/ Don't you love it when the PC weenies get bitten by their own? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to l

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-22 Thread Ed Gould
gards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available On Mar 22, 2

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: Not to be too hard on the C messages, here's another example: CCN1101 Maximum spill size of &2 is exceeded in function &1. Explanation Spill size is the size of the spill area. Spill area is the storage allocated if the number of machine re

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-22 Thread Ed Gould
riate text depending on the context, if that message is ever produced. On Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:57:38 UTC, Ed Gould wrote: For sysprogs, I'd expect a consultation for a "U" (the old "D" for Disaster), but otherwise I'd expect more knowl

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Bill Woodger wrote: We'll, I don't remember ever seeing a manual. bitsavers has an OS/VS COBOL Compiler and Library Programmer's Guide from June 1984, and it refers to the ERRMSG method, and documents the COBOL runtime (OBJECT-TIME) messages. My first use was

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 21, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Don Poitras wrote: The IBM C compiler certainly documents their compiler diagnostic messages. http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/ com.ibm.zos.v2r2.cbcdg01/cbcdg0112.htm SNIP- Sounds like the COBOL people are

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Gould
to have any point in the process), then let IBM know and they will look into it. I reported one, and my source says Tom Ross himself fixed it (a V4 message referred to a V3 document). Now, if anyone does want to commission the documentation of the Enterprise COBOL diagnostic messages, I&

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Gould
ces and it sounded to a dollar that the the non SMPE install-ability of CA products was really a hot button. I think when it came out that he was making so much it was head lines and his ability to go to CA conferences was small potato's Ed Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Ed

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-20 Thread Ed Gould
Linda: All good suggestions. I have also found that after attending that the employee should write and CC - everyone on the team - a review of the days attended (and sessions). highlighting any thing that might be of use that you learned. Yes its a PITA but it shows that the sessions are

Re: CeBIT and mainframes

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 19, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 03/19/2016 03:13 PM, Ed Gould wrote: On Mar 19, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 03/18/2016 11:14 PM, Ed Gould wrote: On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 18 Mar 2016 07:27:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main

Re: Source question

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
Just remember its unsupported unless you pay $$. Ed On Mar 19, 2016, at 6:56 PM, John McKown wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Scott Ford wrote: All: We are in the process of organizing our source code for our Adapters ( that what Mgmt is calling them for RACF, ACF2 and Top-Secr

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
Enterprise COBOL Bookshelf. Do you have a link? On Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:00:43 UTC, Ed Gould wrote: Bill, It took IBM 10+ years to come up with a messages and code. AFter constantly asking for one. IBM standard answer was "They are self documenting" after enough SHARE and on here

Re: CeBIT and mainframes

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 19, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 03/18/2016 11:14 PM, Ed Gould wrote: On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 18 Mar 2016 07:27:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Itschak wrote: no recompile involved. Just relink to replace IBM's LE modules. So

Re: SYSPROC Concatenation?

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 19, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 23:28:46 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: The way I learned to do it was that logon procs did a universal ex sysproc(logon) and if you had a pds that had the member logon in it o Isn't the argument to EX a DDNAME, not a DSNA

Re: SYSPROC Concatenation?

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 19, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 15:28:30 +, J R wrote: o Isn't the argument to EX a DDNAME, not a DSNAME? No! I stand corrected; I had it exactly backward (I intended the reverse.) But the prior ply used "ex sysproc(logon)", and SYSPROC is conv

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
ve off the full-stop/period in the ERRMSG "program". Up to V4 at least that reveals a minor bug (compiler keeps hunting the full-stop/period without first checking for end- of-file). I don't know if the same issue exists with V5 or V6. On Saturday, 19 March 2016 04:08:18 UTC, E

Re: Raised Floor

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 17, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: Sometimes even if a certain practice is legal it might not be legally prudent. Civil lawsuits exist in many jurisdictions. It depends. If someone cuts a hole and left that hole open, someone can fall in that ho

Re: SYSPROC Concatenation?

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 16, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:58:28 -0500, John McKown wrote: Q). How did I get my CLIST Concatenated permanently? I would like to do it again. ​Actually, nobody here can tell you -- exactly. ... There is not "IBM standard" way to do this.

Re: SYSPROC Concatenation?

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
The way I learned to do it was that logon procs did a universal ex sysproc(logon) and if you had a pds that had the member logon in it it would exec that clist and in that clist you could allocate the libraries to your liking. With the understanding that if didn't have IBM libraries first d

Re: CeBIT and mainframes

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 18 Mar 2016 07:27:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Itschak wrote: no recompile involved. Just relink to replace IBM's LE modules. So what processor(s) is this code running on? What exactly is being done? Clark Morris --SNIP-

Re: Enterprise COBOL V6 documentation available

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
I think its a good idea. Pity it took IBM 10+ years to put out a Messages and Codes for the same product. Ed On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 This includes a new Performance Tuning guide, from Day One, by following t

Testing to see if I am still subscribed

2016-03-18 Thread Ed Gould
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A BIG eraser - IBM outsources 14,000 jobs

2016-03-11 Thread Ed Gould
By | Paul Kunert 10th March 2016 16:05 IBM to erase 14,000 people from the payroll – Wall St analyst Jobs to be bundled on a plane and flown to lower labour cost countries http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/03/10/ ibm_to_erase_14000_people_from_the_payroll_wall_st_analyst/ ---

Re: How long can a TSO command be?

2016-03-10 Thread Ed Gould
ity wouldn't stand for it. Ed On Mar 10, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:20:42 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: PARMDD is a kludge. They ought simply to have allowed a longer PARM. If PARMDD allows substitution

Re: How long can a TSO command be?

2016-03-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: PARMDD is a kludge. They ought simply to have allowed a longer PARM. If PARMDD allows substitution of system symbols, that should have been supported likewise in EXEC PARM. Paul: If you change the 255 character limit you will break the enti

Re: Problem applying UA71619 anyone ?

2016-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:37 AM, ESHEL Jonathan wrote: Thank you Allan and sorry for not responding earlier. SMPMTS is the 1st in our SYSLIB concat and it is empty anyway ... Regards, Jonathan Maybe you can show the concatenations? Ed -

Re: Does everybody use chargeback?

2016-03-07 Thread Ed Gould
Curtis: At one installation we used it to get gross idea for charging for usage. It worked well until we accidently found out that the numbers were *WAY* off (we weren't charging for execution batch monitoring). The *SHIT* hit the fan and the subsidiary was sold off a few years later. That l

Re: rexx and tso alllocate

2016-03-04 Thread Ed Gould
Bill, FWIW I think that jes2 sysout is limited to 255 (or around that number). Ed On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: Well, the original LRECL is 304. Let's say every record is 300 bytes. Fills up the block, writes it. No room on the track for the next block. Next block will b

IBM brings down large axe on staff in the US

2016-03-02 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/03/02/ibm_layoffs/ IBM axed a wedge of workers today across the US as part of an "aggressive" shakeup of its business. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:41 AM, baby eklavya wrote: *"The saddest part was the manager was not even literate on zOS systems. All he knew was to save cost. So slowly most of the wannabe system programmer left. Now he wants a 2 year experienced guys to run equal to his peer."* This is exactly w

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 27, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Jake Anderson wrote: Hi Looking at this discussion I really wanted to share something over here which was shared by one of my colleague. One of an American ISV company off shored their work to India. The technicians in India wanted to get trained in many areas

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: @Ed, "Then have your employer pop for education because that is how *WE* did it." Do you even understand how outsourcing companies stay alive. Nay, thrive? I agree, I haven't contributed much (anything?) to the community, but I

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 25, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: No one's forcing you to Ed. But I'm guessing you're helping around here because you love what you do, not because you want to help "your people" alone. One can't learn a lot from equals, and one certainly can't learn a lot from t

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Some thoughts from someone on the other side. What's the point of saying "Oh, I'm an outsourced nobody." in a post where one is asking for help. So you may choose to not answer or sit on your high horse and ridicule their incomp

Web Version

2016-02-25 Thread Ed Gould
Gil wrote on a item and gave the web interface URL. I tried it and for after a lot of shenanigans I got this message: Confirmation Sent Your password registration request has been accepted. For your protection, the password will not be activated just yet (anyone could have completed this fo

Re: History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:34:33 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: I was trolling for information on what the 360 indicated in the System/360 (yes the old one) and came across this video Thanks for sharing this, Lizette. The S/360 Model 30 had 1M

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
Binyamin: I agree but to a specific point disagree. I have been in several shops where read access was given to SYS1.PARMLIB . Every one of those shops at least one time a month we were called into a meeting to "discuss" contents of sys1.parmlib. Those meeting could last 2-5 hours arguing

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: SNIP--- BYPASS(PRE), BYPASS(ID): Never! These will create an invalid configuration, one which the vendor is unlikely to have tested. -SNIP Paul: I hav

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-23 Thread Ed Gould
Well there are at least two ways. 1. Run an IEHLIST listvtoc vol=33xx= what ever volser is at 376E 2. ISPF and look at the volser. Its obviously in use. You can bring down OVS (hopefully) And see if this clear it up. Ed On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:31 AM, Mainframe Mainframe wrote: Hel

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 22, 2016, at 2:05 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2016-02-18 o 10:30, Timothy Sipples pisze: - SNIP memory than the biggest available mainframe did until 2015. Well, it was a *shame* for mainframe. Both: memory limit and the

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Gould
Tom: A *LONG* time ago (pre dynamic exits) we had a rogue sysprog decided to install a SILO without getting the sysprog department involved. He screwed it up beg time and I got a call on a Sunday afternoon telling me that the system wouldn't IPL. He screwed up LINKLSTxx and didn't bother to s

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Gould
All for the cost of a new Mainframe? Seriously the issue is absence of debugging tools to find the leak seems like it would be simpler to have them. Ed On Feb 22, 2016, at 2:40 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: For the record, the memory leak in the specific situation I described was due to a cus

Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Gould
There have been more ads on here for one. Ed On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Darren Evans-Young wrote: Not sure how to take this comment... Define quality. Darren On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Ed Gould wrote: Agreed, ever since Darren "retired" the quality of the list has declined. Ed

Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues

2016-02-21 Thread Ed Gould
Agreed, ever since Darren "retired" the quality of the list has declined. Ed On Feb 21, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: SNIP- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Rob Schramm wrote: But isn't it the point? We would all prefer to live in a world where bad coding doesn't happen. I would venture a guess that most have been in a situation that called for a bad temporary solution until a fix could be found. In which case t

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Clark Morris wrote: - SNIP- - Ed, they did fix the bug but it took several weeks to do it. With memory they were able to stay afloat while the repair was being done. Clark Morris

Re: DFSORT and SMF

2016-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
Why bother? The utility is available for free and no expert advice is needed. E On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Hi folks, I was just wondering how easy it would be to run SMF type 42 (and perhaps 14, 15, 17, 18) through DFSORT to find out what happened to a p

Re: zfs question root growth

2016-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: ---SNIP Contact the system programmer. SNIP-- Don't you loves these? About 40 years ago I got the same response and that is when I s

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Andrew Rowley wrote: I will make the same comment I made last time this topic came up - avoiding garbage collection is not usually a wise goal. It depends on the workload(s). The point I made is that with the z13 and z13s you have more s

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:30 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: - SNIP- 4. IBM has greatly relaxed the data center environmental requirements for this model, expanding the temperature and humidity envelopes. It's much more realistic no

Re: Anyone interested in a brief tutorial on SMF record design?

2016-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Charles Mills wrote: If anyone is interested in a three-page tutorial on how to design a "user" SMF record type please write me off-list at charlesm at mcn dot org and I will forward it to you. I'm doing this for feedback. "No salesman will call." I don't have

was backup of RACF DB

2016-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
This conversation is really interesting (to me). Wouldn't it be better have a mirrored RACF DB? (of course do the copying and back up as well). Maybe IBM could chime it as well? Ed On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: It's IMHO very obvious that

Ah, that new 'baby' mainframe smell: IBM shows off z13s from a different POV

2016-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/16/ ibm_z13s_mainframe_security_enhancements/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Enterprise COBOL 6.1 announced

2016-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
Long live 1.13 and may it last until 2050 (at least). Ed On Feb 16, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: The requirement for z/OS 2.1 is disappointing. We haven't been on 1.13 for all that long, and I don't know that we have an upgrade due any time soon... :-( Support for z/OS 1.13 ends soo

Re: Problem subscribing to IBM-MAIN

2016-02-13 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 13, 2016, at 11:01 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: I addressed this note to Darren but have not received a reply. Trying to move my subscription to my new 'office' account. Not working for reasons indicated. . . Good luck Skip. I sent a note to Darren 6 or so months ago I never got an

Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-13 Thread Ed Gould
Skip: I concur. A second cousin war story was that there was a RACF "screwup" (ie operator error) took a data center down for a long time (more than a few hours). The DC was designed for the one of the Chicago markets. The lead sysprog at the time (I thing he is no longer with us) was the

Re: Odd behaviour with DFHSM & DFSORT in batch.

2016-02-12 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 12, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Vince Getgood wrote: Ed, That’s more or less what John said. I thought the WAIT parameter would resolve that issue though. On more investigation, there is nothing in the joblog for the HSMLIST step regarding the final disposition of 'MAINT.TEMP.LIST', regard

Re: Odd behaviour with DFHSM & DFSORT in batch.

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Anthony Thompson wrote: He did code WAIT. I stand corrected (I usually put wait at the end). My premise is still there but not sure how to get the program to wait until DFHSM has created it then? Ed --

Re: Odd behaviour with DFHSM & DFSORT in batch.

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
I think what is happening is that the HSEND command is done asynchronously and therefor the dataset has not been created when the dfsort step runs. You might code wait and that should help. Ed On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Vince Getgood wrote: Hi all, I've discovered some very odd behaviou

Re: DD DSN=xx.xx.xx reads all members if it's a PDS?

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:50 AM, R.S. wrote: DD name points to dataset. A program can or cannot read all the members. Examples: IEBPTPCH - can print all the members And PUNCH :) IEBCOPY - can copy all the members -- For IBM-

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
Martin, The retcode is all important here for condition code checking in later steps. Ed On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Martin Packer wrote: Humour me and tell us all what setting the 4 bits in 15 means here. I had actually looked at the green card on my home office wall (no really) and

Re: DD DSN=xx.xx.xx reads all members if it's a PDS?

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:34 AM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Ed Gould wrote: John, There *MAY* be a way, albeit adding an extra step to do so. But I don't think that is what he wanted. ​I think so too. I already _have_ a way to do something like what t

Re: DD DSN=xx.xx.xx reads all members if it's a PDS?

2016-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
John, There *MAY* be a way, albeit adding an extra step to do so. But I don't think that is what he wanted. Ed On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:34 AM, John McKown wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Lester, Bob wrote: Hi Folks, OK, it's only Wednesday, but Wouldn't it be nice if

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:26:17 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote: ?That doesn?t apply to ?true?, though, right?? ?Of course not, use some common sense.? That would require the knowledge of /bin/true to be common sense, which I doubt. I like the id

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 10, 2016, at 12:39 PM, David L. Craig wrote: On 16Feb10:1926+0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote: IEFBR14 is not a TSO command. Really? I learn something new every day, that's great :-) Indeed, it was written before there was a Time Sharing Option (possibly even imagined). And it was APAR

Re: PDS member information

2016-02-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: You could try the cbttape.org tool called DAF and see if this could help. Or look at the Articles posted recently on using REXX to read SMF data. http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/ applicationdevelopment/rex x_smf_par

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 6, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Gregg wrote: Did it require a Hayes (compatible) MODEM? Sorry that is before my time:) Ed On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Ed Gould wrote: Yes/NO There was a command that at dial time would stop call waiting, its been years (sorry). Ed On Feb 6, 2016

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Ed Gould
Yes/NO There was a command that at dial time would stop call waiting, its been years (sorry). Ed On Feb 6, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: Linda - did you have call waiting? If you forgot to disable it before "hooking up" that little click/beep indicator of an incoming call woul

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Ed Gould
Bill: There was a product from IBM called PCF and it would let you string out tso commands with a ";" between each command and you could do what you are talking about I just remembered it a 445A . ex: alloc (systut1)da(in.contl) shr;alloc (sysut2) da(out.data) new sp(1 1) trk;alloc fi(sy

Re: DFSORT - SMF Records - GMT To EST

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
Andrew: Its been a while since I have looked at timings, but if I recall correctly the SRB time can be a killer depending on what you are doing. Also not to get into the middle of anything. DFSORT is *OPTIMIZED* for IO and it is FAST. So a simple assembler program can be slower that DFSORT

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:30:53 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 4, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Unix Style: cat /etc/passwd | grep ^ted013: | awk -F':' '{print $3}' JCL Style: //CAT EXEC PGM=CAT //SYSUT1 DD DSN=SYS1

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
stdin and stdout are opened prior to calling the specified program, very much like JCL allocation is done before PGM= gets control. These are the similarities I'm looking for that might help someone move from unix/windows to the mainframe environment without getting completely frustra

Re: Count smf type 30-5 records

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 4, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 13:16 -0700 on 02/04/2016, Sri h Kolusu wrote about Re: Count smf type 30-5 records: If you want DFSORT to extract the values from Raw SMF data then what fields correspond to Userid, Jobname(SMF30JBN ??) and Date from the SMF-30 Rec

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 4, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: That's great stuff, and how mainframe methods need to be taught today. College students understand unix and windows, and need to know the (can I say odd?) differences they will see on the mainframe, along with a bit of history. I'm currently

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 4, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 02/04/2016 12:52 PM, Ed Gould wrote: http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends/What-the-Heck-Is- JCL-and-Why-Does-It-Look-So-Funny What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny? It’s important to give job control language its

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 4, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: That's great stuff, and how mainframe methods need to be taught today. College students understand unix and windows, and need to know the (can I say odd?) differences they will see on the mainframe, along with a bit of history. I'm currently

IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends/What-the-Heck-Is- JCL-and-Why-Does-It-Look-So-Funny What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny? It’s important to give job control language its due respect helping others - See more at: http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends

Re: SIS outage

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: -SNIP- The support tools should be as available as the systems they are supporting. IBM should be embarrassed that they cannot provide this availability. "Service Information Searc

Re: GIM35912I_Error on Apply check

2016-02-04 Thread Ed Gould
Greg: Through the years I have found Compuware and FDR has pretty darn good support unlike some other vendors who charge a lot for their product. BTW FDR is reasonably priced. Ed On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: Call Compuware - they will be happy to guide you in fixing the

Re: Convert a Parm into a control card

2016-02-03 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:59:31 -0600, Victor Gil wrote: If Cobol code is an acceptable option the below program should do what you want. (snip) 003500 DISPLAY OUTPUT-FILE-RECORD UPON CONSOLE. Really? Do people still use DISPLAY ... UPON

List server changed?

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
All of a sudden it seems (to me) that the return address on the list server has changed. Has anyone else noticed this? I "think" there are now capital letters in the name. Why weren't we notified? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Convert a Parm into a control card

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
Ed: That is why I have always resisted the extra features of SORT as they *ARE* sort dependent. A long time ago a company I was at set a standard of what sort was to be used. The LPAR was using syncsort (nothing wrong with that IMO) and they installed DFSORT. The conversion went reasonably

Re: UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
Skip: I agree to an extent. The overhead in maintaining charge back #'s was just to great (for us) and we just accepted the number on the job/tso/ stc and in the end we found some people cheating and wrote memo's to their boss and manually made the adjustment (that did work BTW as the mana

Re: RMF monitor III panel restriction

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
Liz: While there may be no real compelling issue the main reason we like to restrict things of this nature is for political reasons. I have seen in the past is that when there is an issue the group responsible will go to any lengths to avoid being finger pointed at. In this case (just an exam

Re: UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
We use them for resource usage (not for charge back) but it could be done as well if we could ever agree on it. Ed On Feb 2, 2016, at 4:27 AM, R.S. wrote: Just curious: why one want to know acctnum of given person? More general: what are acctnums used for nowadays? Teaching RACF and z/OS I

Re: The Linklist

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
When you get closed WAD yes. Ed On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:57:24 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Sounds like a SHARE requirement to me. ??? Fixing a bug shouldn't be a SHARE requirement; it should be an SR. On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:24 PM,

Re: The Linklist

2016-02-01 Thread Ed Gould
Sounds like a SHARE requirement to me. Ed On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:59:12 -0500, Paul Strauss <...@US.IBM.COM> wrote: I use ISRDDN daily. But beware! ISRDDN can give incorrect results when a mixed concatenation of PDS(E) and UNIX directori

Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5

2016-01-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Skip Robinson wrote: Ah, UADS. A prime example of archaic mechanism. Defensible technically? Probably not, although a security administrator who needs to know which account numbers or which proclibs a user is authorized to use might tell a different story. With

Re: COBOL v5

2016-01-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 28, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Stevet wrote: Hmmm. IIRC, IBM asked customers for input as to addressing needs of COBOL. I understood that 64bit addressing was heard loud and clear. Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots. Stevet: Look at the archives on IBM

Re: COBOL v5

2016-01-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one time, but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a commitment to the future of COBOL. You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and "m

O/T Lenovo's file-sharing app uses hardwired password '12345678' ... or no password at all

2016-01-28 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/ worlds_worst_passwords_hardcoded_into_lenovo_shareit/ Lenovo ShareIT users, get patching: the PC maker's file-sharing app is pretty much unsecured. The software runs on Windows and Android devices, and creates a Wi-Fi hotspot allowing data to be exc

Re: Deleting a dataset that GRS has enqueued.

2016-01-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:40:45 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I thought from discussions here a few years ago that IBM has provided a facility that supports renaming of an ENQUEUEd DSN, in the VTOC, after requesting confirmation from the opera

Re: Deleting a dataset that GRS has enqueued.

2016-01-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 27, 2016, at 10:43 PM, TonyB wrote: Years ago I recall a young sys prog asking for advice on this forum. She qualified her request by stating "but please, no system programmer tricks." I don't call her issue but clearly a risk averse solution was desired. Sent from BlueMail That is

Re: Deleting a dataset that GRS has enqueued.

2016-01-27 Thread Ed Gould
eued. At 10:32 -0600 on 01/27/2016, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: Deleting a dataset that GRS has enqueued.: On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:37:29 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Try disabling the VVDS on the volume amaspzap the dataset to change the name. delete the dataset with iehprogm enable the vvds on the volume

Re: COBOL v5

2016-01-27 Thread Ed Gould
I'm not about to write or support program code that occupies more than 2GiB of storage, but surely you can see the extreme usefulness of multi-GiB of main-storage data accessed by a program. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv

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