Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/20/2012 at 12:21 PM, "McKown, John" said: >Spoofing email is rather simple. FSVO spoofing. It's trivial to generate your own From header field, but anybody that knows how to read headers can easily tell where it really came from. >Now, if somebody is really paying attention, they

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <505b4ddf.8010...@trainersfriend.com>, on 09/20/2012 at 11:09 AM, Steve Comstock said: >Spoofing your email account can be done outside some social >engineering contxt. At least that seems to be the concensus in this >conversation, although I lack the technical knowledge of how to do it >my

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/20/2012 at 10:57 AM, Mike Schwab said: >Someone could start their PC, start their email client, enter your >email as the sender, and start sending emails through your account >via SMTP by only getting your email address. No they couldn't; my provider's SMTP server would reject the

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <20120920084124.7eb5d8229f08b74462b6b...@gmx.net>, on 09/20/2012 at 08:41 AM, ibmmain said: >I do. Unfortunately only at home, email clients cannot go through the >firewall at work. Are you sure? It's more likely that port 25 can't get through the firewall but port 587 can. Check whether y

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-21 Thread Scott Ford
t > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > Mike Schwab wrote: > >> Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some >> server is rebooted, then you get weeks

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-21 Thread Joel C. Ewing
any FROM address may be bogus and act with appropriate caution. JC Ewing On 09/20/2012 04:47 PM, J R wrote: That's what he said, "Web pages *do* require passwords to access your account." > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:54:16 -0400 From:scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Subj

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9b277c67-0e6e-4fbc-b50d-83450902d...@comcast.net>, on 09/19/2012 at 11:36 PM, Ed Gould said: >Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Try pointing this out to them. >I have been through this issue with YAHOO and GMAIL. >AFter talking with their support people it appears to be >their issu

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/19/2012 at 07:01 PM, Mike Schwab said: >That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to >change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. No more so than web mail. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread J R
That's what he said, "Web pages *do* require passwords to access your account." > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:54:16 -0400 > From: scott_j_f...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Mike, > > I don'

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Ford
Mike, I don't follow the logic can you elaborate for me ? I thought all web mail needed passwords ? If I am mistake man I want to know Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, zMan wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread McKown, John
; On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > > John, > > you're missing his point: it's not that your home computer > can be broken into. It's

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/20/2012 10:59 AM, McKown, John wrote: I must respectively disagree about my home PC. I am not responsible for my work PC's security. At home, I run Fedora Linux, not MS-Windows (due to a company policy, I do have one MS-Windows laptop. It is powered off 90+% of the time). I mostly run GPL'd

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread McKown, John
al Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > This is not YOUR PC at home or work. T

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Schwab
This is not YOUR PC at home or work. This is the HACKER's PC and they enter your email address or a fake email as the sender. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM, McKown, John wrote: > Nobody can "start my PC" at home without a password. At work, a > "administrator" can do so. But, since they have

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Schwab Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, zMan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > >> That account goes away if you change providers or move

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread McKown, John
hwab > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, zMan wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Schwab > wrote: > > > >> That account go

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, zMan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > >> That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to >> change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when >> you upload any attachments, you are certain it gets

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread McKown, John
Mike Schwab > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to > change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when > you

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Ford
:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of ibmmain > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > >> Why all this web mail stuff? Doesn't anybody actually use their ISP's mail >> servers wi

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread zMan
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to > change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when > you upload any attachments, you are certain it gets to your email host > anyway. "Plus it enables a lo

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when you upload any attachments, you are certain it gets to your email host anyway. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ibmmain Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > Why all this web mail stuff? Doesn't anybody actually use their ISP's mail > servers with an actual mai

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Ford
Barbara, I don't think your a dinosaur, sounds very logical based on experience , I also say Eds reply on yahoo and gmail having issues with the listserv. I am not surprised based on my experience as a vendorthen again I blame my old age of 62 ...lol Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Se

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread ibmmain
> Why all this web mail stuff? Doesn't anybody actually use their ISP's mail > servers with an actual mail client sending and receiving the mail on their PC > anymore? I do. Unfortunately only at home, email clients cannot go through the firewall at work. Although I don't use the ISP's mail se

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread Ed Gould
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses Mike Schwab wrote: Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few mo

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Ford
mail on their >> PC anymore? >> >> Peter >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM >>

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread Mike Schwab
n > Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses > > Mike Schwab wrote: > >>Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some >>server i

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses Mike Schwab wrote: >Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some server >is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once. Real

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Schwab wrote: >Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some server >is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once. Really bad for yahoo >groups. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch! One more reason why I don't use yahoo. Perhaps it is just me, but I'm not a 'yahoo'. ;-D >

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some server is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once. Really bad for yahoo groups. I much prefer gmail as my message handler. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Rich, > > Mail list via yahoo > > Sco

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-18 Thread Scott Ford
Rich, Mail list via yahoo Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Rich Greenberg wrote: > In article <3ed55f17-8b97-4292-9c4d-c04797006...@yahoo.com> you write: >> I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there >> something on with the Listserv > >

Re: OT - disappearing responses

2012-09-18 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article <3ed55f17-8b97-4292-9c4d-c04797006...@yahoo.com> you write: >I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there >something on with the Listserv How are you reading and how are you responding? Usenet? Mailing list? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign