Re: Inconsistent XEDIT Logical Not

2006-07-10 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Phil Smith III wrote: [stuff deleted for brevity] ... > Note the character that went in as the NOT sign. Then issue: > > set input xx 5f > > Where "xx" is the hex value of the character as displayed by HEXTYPE. Precisely. -- R;

Re: Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron

2006-07-10 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:50:41 -0600, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Well I had exposure, access, to an IBM MVT product called TESTTRAN > > which was sort of available on our system with assembler F and , if > > I remember correctly, Fortran G, bo

Re: Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron

2006-07-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well I had exposure, access, to an IBM MVT product called TESTTRAN > which was sort of available on our system with assembler F and , if > I remember correctly, Fortran G, both in batch and TSO. One had to > compile/assemble with the TEST opti

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
>From Bit's note, we have no problem. The 14 or 15 dataspaces of just under 2G >each will be R/O, so there never is a need to page them out. Since they page >in directly from SFS, they already occupy sufficient page space to accommodate >them. The 50% rule can then apply to the few users who are

Re: TCPIP Failover

2006-07-10 Thread Lee Stewart
Sorry for not writing back sooner... That's exactly what we did -- drop the direct OSA connection and ran TCP/IP off the VSwitch. Worked (and switched and recovered) great! Thanks, Lee Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 05/11/2006 at 09:51 CST, Lee Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi again

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/10/06, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any virtual machine would not work at most shops; any but the ones in an exempt list might be OK. But we're telling folks to stay well under 25-50% utilization. Must be strange things happening that will suddenly make you fill up paging sp

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Doug Bryce
"A shadowy figure waves." Schuh, Richard wrote: IIRC, there was also a game called Adventure that was played on VM way back when. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Saturday,

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
I agree with Brian - we all have 2 (at least) of those critical virtual machines anyway, right !!?! Shoot my WAS server - I've got 7 more where that came from :) MPROUTE and TCPIP, now those would be bad to lose (well, yeah, vswitch... I know), but still preferable to losing the whole LPAR and

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Brian Nielsen
Exempting some users should be part of the options/tuning knobs. If a shop would prefer to lose the entire system that should be their cal l (no action required - they'll get an easily referenced ABEND code). Personally, I would rather lose my most critical virtual machine rather than my mos

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Any virtual machine would not work at most shops; any but the ones in an exempt list might be OK. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:32 PM To: IBMVM@LI

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
The particular machine is going to be used at IBM's Gaithersburg facility for about 1 week's testing. The other period mentioned included setup and breakdown times. We do not need to worry about the SET MAXUSERS command, we have it constrained by the number of userids in the directory. Regards

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
ZORK? On 10 Jul 2006 at 11:56, Edward M. Martin wrote: > That was the one with the cave and the secret words (XYZZY and > PLUGH) > > Ed Martin > Aultman Health Foundation > 330-588-4723 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ext. 40441 > > -Original Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [m

Re: VMSES Question

2006-07-10 Thread Imler, Steven J
Jim, Just redo the documented installation steps for the Rules replacement text decks ... it should resolve the problem. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [m

Re: VMSES Question

2006-07-10 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
I didn't ignore them. If I did ignore them, I never would have written the original email. All the files are located on the LOCALMOD minidisk. Where in the VMSECURE Rules manual does it mention running VMFBLD PPF ZVM CP HCPGPI ( SERVICED ? ___ Jim Hu

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Jon Brock wrote: I still used those words at times, when I need to make a file name or something unique. I also sometimes use a phrase taken from a successor to Adventure ("NEWADV"): "I have neither the tools nor the expertise." Jon That was the one with th

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Brian Nielsen
Instead of a CP ABEND when PAGE space runs out CP could terminate a virtual machine to free up memory/PAGE space. I would much rather see *any* virtual machine terminate than have CP ABEND and terminate them all . There are lots of potential options/tuning knobs that could be devised to aid

Re: VMSES Question

2006-07-10 Thread Imler, Steven J
Jim, YES! It matters! You can't ignore these messages. If you installed the VM:Secure mods via the suggested instructions, the mods should have ended up you your LOCALMOD disk. Please review the VM:Secure TEXT deck installation procedure (VM:Secure Rules Facility Guide; Chapter 3) and ensure yo

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Jon Brock
I still used those words at times, when I need to make a file name or something unique. I also sometimes use a phrase taken from a successor to Adventure ("NEWADV"): "I have neither the tools nor the expertise." Jon That was the one with the cave and the secret words (XYZZY and PLUGH)

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/10/2006 at 11:54 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This system is going to be around for only 2+ weeks supporting some annual > testing that we do. Its workload will be pretty focused and it will not grow > (at least this year). The thing I was wondering about is

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Bill, Richard Lewis will be working with our people during the tests. When running a test, the directories will be R/O to all users. There may be updates to some during the in-between times. None of the other users of the system during a test will be using the DIRC directories. Regards, Richar

VMSES Question

2006-07-10 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
I downloaded UM31830, received, applied, and built a new cp. I also have VMSECURE's Rules facility installed. The VMFVIEW BUILD screen shows me this: PPFNAME: ZVM COMPNAME: CP BLDID: 5VMCPR20

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Bill Bitner
Richard, Yes, you need to define sufficient paging space. If I said otherwise, I'd have nothing to fall back on when you call in a problem. :-) However, if you are using these as read-only DIRC directories in dataspaces, then you have the advantage that SFS uses mapped minidisks to the dataspace.

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Big "IF", what happens if this server (the SFS containing the DIRC directories), crashs? Would it also dump the dataspaces? If so, you will need lots of spool space also. But you shouldn't need additional paging space for a 2 week time period. Now, if it was a 2 year time period, then, yes, you

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Marty, This system is going to be around for only 2+ weeks supporting some annual testing that we do. Its workload will be pretty focused and it will not grow (at least this year). The thing I was wondering about is whether CP keeps track of the storage allocations of all users and the sizes of

Re: Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Marty Zimelis
Richard, A quick calculation shows that 5.7M blocks x 4K bytes per block is about 22.8GB. That would *seem* to day that you have enough storage to satisfy your workload's demand. HOWEVER, I would weigh the cost of providing, say, 30GB of page space vs. the cost of losing your system -- even

Paging Space Question

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
The Situation: A small, special purpose VM that is going to have 12 users accessing data that is contained in DIRC directories that are enabled for data spaces. These directories will have a total of approximately 5.7 million blocks committed. The processes using them will be most of what is run

Re: HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Will there be a final, end of support RSU for z/VM 4.4. I think that RSU0601 is the most recent. WIll that be the last? I expect to be on a z/something in about Feb. 2007, but until then, I'll be living with z/VM 4.4. Jim At 12:52 PM 7/10/2006, you wrote: Tom, While the problem could occu

Re: HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread John Franciscovich
>Would this apply to z/vm 4.2? > >Would it fix the following problem? SPXTAPE encountered a tape >error, it hadn't yet cancelled itself and the SPXTAPE CANCEL command >wasn't issued, but the userid was forced off. This happened many >weeks ago and the user is still hung. > > - Tom. Tom, Whi

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Edward M. Martin
That was the one with the cave and the secret words (XYZZY and PLUGH) Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Schuh, Richard > Sent: Monday, July 10,

Re: Linux mainframe game machine....

2006-07-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
IIRC, there was also a game called Adventure that was played on VM way back when. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Cluster
Would this apply to z/vm 4.2? Would it fix the following problem? SPXTAPE encountered a tape error, it hadn't yet cancelled itself and the SPXTAPE CANCEL command wasn't issued, but the userid was forced off. This happened many weeks ago and the user is still hung. - Tom. At 07:24 AM 7

Re: Testing LE options

2006-07-10 Thread Michael Donovan
You can also run with a single CMS and multiple LE segments using a series of SEGMENT ASSIGN commands. Refer to http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/donovanm/zvmle.html#MULTI for an example of how to do this. Mike Donovan

Re: Testing LE options

2006-07-10 Thread Kris Buelens
What you also can do (without the need for an extra 190-disk) is defining a segment at the same place as the LE ones, and load those before starting any LE program. Preparation: CP Q NSS NAME SCEE MAP # CP Q NSS NAME SCEEX MAP Then a DEFSEG NOSCEE xxx-yyy SN # DEFSEG NOSCEEX kkk-lll SN and SAVE

Re: HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread Doug Breneman
>From HCPHPC: HPC010 Hard abend - A System-managed space page was released while still locked in absolute or logical or still being actively translated This is at least a description of what went wrong in VM. Jim's response is much better since it points you to the fix for this pro

Re: Testing LE options

2006-07-10 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
You can save the LE segments with different names. Then put the updated SYSTEM SEGID file on a different S-disk. Then IPL that disk. Or, remove the segments from the SYSTEM SEGID file on a different 190 disk. Then you should get the modules in the LOADLIB. -Original Message- From: The I

Re: HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread Jim Vincent
See APAR VM64029 - PTF was just made available 7/6. In summary, there is a bug in SPXTAPE processing. ___ James Vincent Systems Engineering Consultant Nationwide Services Co., Technology Solutions Mainframe, z/VM and z/Linux Support One Nationwide Plaza 3-20-

HPC010 Abend

2006-07-10 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
We experienced our first CP abend in 6 years this weekend. Our 2 month old ZVM 5.1 system running on a Z890 experienced an HPC010 abend. It's not in the manual. What is the root cause? Thanks in advance. ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Impossible is just an opinion." "Your car

Re: Inconsistent XEDIT Logical Not

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Smith III
Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Again, entirely dependent on your/its selection of code page. There is a >downside to use SET INPUT/SET OUTPUT: It doesn't apply when you FTP or do >a 3270 File Transfer. So, since I haven't seen it here (which doesn't mean that it hasn't been stated a

Testing LE options

2006-07-10 Thread Westlund, Mats (Mainframe servers)
I have an application that runs fine with the default LE 5.2.0 options (I call this LE1) I modify run time options with the CUSTLE exec and save the segment ( I call this LE2) After that the application does not run. The only change between LE1 and LE2 after run of CUSTLE was modules CEEPLPKA,C