Re: Latest ZVM Pipelines Runtime Installation

2007-04-11 Thread dave
I personally would like to see Endicott pick up the latest RTL version and incorporate it in the base z/VM product...of course, I understand that they other things to do with their time. At most client sites that require the more advanced RTL to be available, I suggest that they employ the " Runni

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Ackerman
/* Read in a NOTE file but do not put it in ALL NOTEBOOK */ /* Untested !!! */ arg spid fn ft fm 'MAKEBUF' buf = rc push 'FILE' fn ft fm 'EXEC PEEK' spid '(FOR *' code = rc 'DROPBUF' buf 'ESTATE' fn ft fm if rc = 0 then 'CP PURGE READER' spid exit code

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:36:08PM -0500,Gary Eheman Wrote: } Still amazed that there is not a single simple query for UTC. You could always call a subroutine written in EXEC2. :-) But then Chuckie would have to kill you. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com +

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2007-04-11 Thread Robert Michaud

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
You don't need to live there, you can apply the offset to your wristwatch. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Eheman Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Eheman
Ah, but I don't want to "live" there. I just want to know what time it is there because I am dealing with another computer in another timezone and we agreed that UTC would be used for time reference for data. ;-) On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:06:39 -0700, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot e: >Th

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Eheman
Tom: No, it is EXEC2, not "EXEC classic" (attribute the latter term to Bob Guenther), whose &DATE and &TIME return UTC. Issue "help exec2 & amp;TIME" to confirm. On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:02:58 -0500, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I seem to recall that EXEC's (not EXEC2) &time token re

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
No, I meant computers. We have 4 data centers in 3 countries, 4 different time zones, and all run with an offset of 0. It helps in researching problems if the clocks of all computers are displaying the same (approximate) time. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/12/07, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is - if you SET TIMEZONE UTC :-) With computers scattered around the planet, that is how we run. A side benefit is not having to worry about DST. I think you meant with *users* scattered around.. In the past I did some digging to se

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
There is - if you SET TIMEZONE UTC :-) With computers scattered around the planet, that is how we run. A side benefit is not having to worry about DST. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Eheman Sent:

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I seem to recall that EXEC's (not EXEC2) &time token returned the hardware clock time. Was a real pain when I was switching to UTC with timezone way of doing things. A lot of old EXEC code at one of my sites. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Gary Eheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/11/2007 4:36 PM >

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Eheman
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:13:51 -0400, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >If only everyone set their TODs to UTC that would be ok. :-) > Very nice, Alan. The ever so complex call revealed. Thanks. I had the call to diag 0 to get the offset and conversion to seconds, but could not for t

Re: Freeing Disks

2007-04-11 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
I have used: VMSECURE MAP dasdvol ( FILE dasdvol to produce a file of allocated space on a volume. Then I use a PIPE to select the MDISK statements from the file I just created. The PIPE creates a series of VMSECURE CHGMDISK commands. You will need to read up on the CHGMDISK c

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/11/2007 at 04:01 EST, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have z/VM here to test this. But could use get the TOD using the > REXX "DIAG" interface to issue DIAG code X'70'? If only everyone set their TODs to UTC that would be ok. :-) UTC = (local time) MINUS (t

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/11/07, Gary Eheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, does anyone have or can they point me to a short REXX or pipeline segment that can give me the current UTC? It can't be so hard that nobody has coded it, can it? In the CMS Pipelines Runtime Library converts TOD clock (UTC) into readable

Re: Freeing Disks

2007-04-11 Thread Bates, Bob
I did this several times working elsewhere. Simplest way would be to have the disks you want cleared assigned to a POOL name different than where you want it to go. Then use the VMSECURE MAINT MANAGE DISKMOVE to the new pool. Disks linked r/o will move and the disks can be reclaimed later. S

Re: I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Eheman > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:40 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: I need current UTC in a REXX exec > > > I need the current UTC time when executing a REXX exe

Freeing Disks

2007-04-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have several sparsely allocated (to minidisks, not CP areas) disks and would like to clear some full-packs by moving users from these disks to other volumes. Is there anyone who has already invented this wheel using VM:Secure or is there a VM:Secure command or utility that I am not seeing when I

I need current UTC in a REXX exec

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Eheman
I need the current UTC time when executing a REXX exec. In the old days, I would just use &DATE and &TIME from an EXEC2 exec. These days, it appears that there may be no easy way to get the current UTC date and time in an exec unless I missed it (a likely possibility). While trolling the onl

Re: VSWITCH error messages from OSD device

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/11/2007 at 04:00 AST, Craig Dudley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We received these error messages (see below) from our OSA-Exeprss device. > This device is handled by a VSWITCH virtual machine. My question is > should we be opening a ETR ServiceLink or should we ask our FE to > lo

Re: VSWITCH error messages from OSD device

2007-04-11 Thread David Kreuter
did someone pull a cable out from under you? David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Craig Dudley Sent: Wed 4/11/2007 4:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VSWITCH error messages from OSD device Hi, We received these error messages (see be

VSWITCH error messages from OSD device

2007-04-11 Thread Craig Dudley
Hi, We received these error messages (see below) from our OSA-Exeprss device. This device is handled by a VSWITCH virtual machine. My question is should we be opening a ETR ServiceLink or should we ask our FE to look into this (even though the OSA Advanced Facilities don't show any errors)? It on

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/11/2007 at 03:42 AST, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was a 3174 ever a supported device for TCPIP? I don't think so, so regardless, > he's going to need a different device (OSA, LCS/3172, something else...). This conversation is getting confusing. To recap: - If you

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread David Boyes
Was a 3174 ever a supported device for TCPIP? I don't think so, so regardless, he's going to need a different device (OSA, LCS/3172, something else...). -Original Message- From: "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU" Sent: 4/11/07 3:20 PM Subject: Re:

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/11/2007 at 03:04 AST, August Carideo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on a new CPU which has not BUS/TAG you need to make sure you have a ESCON > attached 3174 If you have a new CPU you can use either the integrated 3270 console on the HMC or the OSA-ICC (TN3270E offload). Alan Al

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread August Carideo
3174L has nothing to do with whether it is SNA or not, its how you config it also 3174R is remote and is not channel attached on a new CPU which has not BUS/TAG you need to make sure you have a ESCON attached 3174

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Kris, Thanks for reminding me about the 3174L (Local) vs 3174 (SNA). Was that a 3174R or just plain 3174? With the 3174L both TCP/IP and VTAM are not required as the are LOCAL terminals to VM. Jim -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAI

Re: Latest ZVM Pipelines Runtime Installation

2007-04-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/11/07, Hughes, Jim - OIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've not done this before and the instructions keep mentioning VM/ESA. Are there special instructions for Z/VM? Perhaps I am making this more complicated that it needs to be. The instructions apply toe z/VM in the same way. I have a s

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Kris Buelens
READCARD, EXECIO, PIPE READER are basically all the same: they read 80-byte cards from the reader. When punching files in the spool, you can only punch 80 byte cards. If your file is wider, it doesn't work (try with the PUNCH command for example). Therefore, wider files are not simply PUNCHed, b

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Doug Breneman
PIPE AHELP READER has the following example that might interest you: Examples: A subroutine pipeline that deblocks a reader file that has been sent as a note or with the SENDFILE command:

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/11/2007 at 08:14 EST, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doing the DIRECTXA command changes between the pair of directories within > the DRCT area. Would the second system notice the change via the Diag? I can > see where doing a second DIRECTXA could cause serious problems. Are

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Kris Buelens
And, while at the subject: when you share set up the CSE area's too, so CP will protect against accidental R/W LINKs from two systems at once. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support 2007/4/11, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 4/11/07, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doing

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Nick Laflamme
Sergio Lima wrote: Is possible do a DDR Backup from 9345 DASD, and restore this to a 9395 DASD ? What hasn't been said specifically is that the 9345 used a weird disk geometry that wasn't quite like the 3380s or 3390s the 9395s and other more recent disk arrays emulate. So, no, you can't. W

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/11/07, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doing the DIRECTXA command changes between the pair of directories within the DRCT area. Would the second system notice the change via the Diag? I can see where doing a second DIRECTXA could cause serious problems. Are you saying that if you do it to s

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Steve Gentry
If it makes any difference, the file is coming from VM SMTP as a PUN file "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 04/11/2007 11:28 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subj

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Steve Gentry
I just tried READCARD. It munges all the lines together, it doesn't respect CR and LF. This is the problem I have with Pipe READER FILE I didn't use EXECIO 'cause I thought it was deprecated or something like that. "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Kris Buelens
As already replied; DDR cannot restore to a disk of another device type. So if your input is on tape, you will need to find a system with that type of DASD. I don't know by heart, but may DITTO is able to restore DDR tapes to another type of disk. If however you have a running system with diffe

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Wakser, David
Sergio: I don't recall what those drives are, but with DDR you CANNOT restore to a DIFFERENT device type (CKD to FBA) or model (3380 to 339, for example). You CAN restore to a LARGER device (for example 3380 smaller units to a larger one). TCPIP for VM does NOT require VTAM at all. Da

Re: Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I can answer the second. VTAM and TCP/IP are totally independent on VM. TCP/IP does not use CSA in GCS as it does on OS/390 systems. I am unfamiliar with a 9395. If it is also an FBA device, you can restore block ranges but the entire DASD depends on the amount of blocks. You may go smalle

Two Questions About VM

2007-04-11 Thread Sergio Lima
Hi List, I don't work with VM for a long time, but now, have a friend that ask some questions, and I don't remember very well, so, I need a help in this list. The first question are about DDR, Is possible do a DDR Backup from 9345 DASD, and restore this to a 9395 DASD ? Another questi

Re: DPROP V7.4 and DB2/VSE 7.3?

2007-04-11 Thread Tom Duerbusch
And don't forget their support costs. The hard drives are "imaged". They do some Novell "lilo" stuff at POR time (I guess for virus checking of the boot sectors). Then the Novell application distribution and update step. It takes about 5 minutes to boot . Last summer, a virus got in. Buildin

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Yes, OS/390 and VM do not do I/O the way a PC does. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time to move I think it may refer to the effo

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
I think it may refer to the effort of understanding what the system is doing. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject

Re: DPROP V7.4 and DB2/VSE 7.3?

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: Hi Adam Not my PC, it's the clients. It is their responsibility to provide the resources to do my job (or to do it efficiently). I've thought about using my PCs to connect in from home, but then I'm liable for any virus(s) that may enter.

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Marty Zimelis
As long as you're in PIPES, take a look at the example for DEBLOCK NETDATA in the author's help (PIPE AHELP DEBLOCK). Marty Martin Zimelis Principal maz/Consultancy _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Try READCARD or EXECIO? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Programmable operator working: my bad

Re: Programmable operator working: my bad; next opportunity

2007-04-11 Thread Steve Gentry
I finally got the programmable operator piece working. I'm a little embarrassed by my mistake. I had a misplaced RETURN command in the EXEC. I looked at the EXEC I don't know how many times and didn't see it. Do'h! Now my next opportunity. I want to take the file that was placed in the reade

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2007-04-11 Thread Smith, Terry
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DPROP V7.4 and DB2/VSE 7.3? Hi Adam Not my PC, it's the clients. It is their responsibility to prov

Re: DPROP V7.4 and DB2/VSE 7.3?

2007-04-11 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Adam Not my PC, it's the clients. It is their responsibility to provide the resources to do my job (or to do it efficiently). I've thought about using my PCs to connect in from home, but then I'm liable for any virus(s) that may enter. It is one of the reasons I really don't like working

Latest ZVM Pipelines Runtime Installation

2007-04-11 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
I have downloaded runtime.vmarc and rtdoc.vmarc from Marist.Edu. Both files were unpacked using VMARC UNPK fn VMARC B * * B without error. I'd like to put this latest version into production in our Z/VM 5.2 system. I've not done this before and the instructions keep mentioning VM/ESA. Are the

Re: SSLSERV

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Cibula
Hello, In case this problem has not yet been resolved: 13:32:22 * MSG FROM TCPIP2 : Restarting you because you have no passive open on TCP port check that the correct TCPIP DATA file is being referenced by the SSL server, and that the TCPIPUSERID statement in that file cites the correct

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Kris Buelens
I'd say it would be dangreous to share the DRCT areas between 2 VM systems: A DIRECTXA on one system can update the 'inactive' DRCT cylinders any way it likes. Suppose two DIRECTXA commands are executed on one system before the second system had a chance to refresh it's DRCT knowledge. CP in the

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread RPN01
But I¹ve learned from my current configuration that being ³creative² tends to confound the people who otherwise would be most likely to provide advice and assistance in a time of dire need. When you start branching off the normally beaten path, less and less people will understand where you¹ve gone

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread RPN01
Doing the DIRECTXA command changes between the pair of directories within the DRCT area. Would the second system notice the change via the Diag? I can see where doing a second DIRECTXA could cause serious problems. Are you saying that if you do it to some other random pack, that would be enough to

Re: Tracing VSWITCH - SAG broker problem

2007-04-11 Thread Tracy J Adams
Hi, Hans, You should check out APAR PK25362 for IPFORMAT. I believe that should help with your error situation. Good luck. Tracy (Bolinda) Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] z/VM Development - Virtual Networking Hans Rempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 04/10/2007 07

Re: Time to move

2007-04-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/11/07, David Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understood that. I don't understand why existing code paths that have been around for *A WHILE* would be considered effort by developers, unless it was horribly broken. Shudder. Or no longer in the architecture, unlikely as that may be.