Re: VM commands for IBM dasd

2007-12-12 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Rather than ssh can the DS CLI run on a linux guest on zseries? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM commands for IBM dasd On

Performance ? How much page area to allocate?

2007-12-12 Thread Huegel, Thomas
IBM publishes a formula for calculating how much page space to allocate. The formula is something like this: (Total amount of logged on user storage - amount of REAL memory) x 2 = the amount of storage to map to DASD. When I do this calculation I come up with a requirement of 10 3390 mod3 for my

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Les, What APAR or APARs would that be? Jim -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR BTW, if you order

Re: Performance ? How much page area to allocate?

2007-12-12 Thread Marty Zimelis
James is probably correct. CMS is aware enough of its environment to ask CP how much storage it has, thus never has to touch each of its pages (as some operating systems do). It's also better behaved (for a virtual storage environment) in releasing pages it isn't using. For a CMS-intensive

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Keeton
Les, That would be scratch0 I believe. I've been trying some stuff this morning after reading your note. I disassociated the drive from the scratch pool and when I re-started the RMSMASTR machine, there were no sense errors. I was able to manually mount a tape which was volspecific. After

Re: Performance ? How much page area to allocate?

2007-12-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Dec 12, 2007 4:18 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I do this calculation I come up with a requirement of 10 3390 mod3 for my page space. I only have 2 3390 mod3's for page and I don't seem to be having any problems. When you run out of paging space, CP will abend typically

Greg Rehn is out of the office.

2007-12-12 Thread Greg Rehn
I will be out of the office starting 12/12/2007 and will not return until 12/13/2007. I plan on checking email. For backup, please contact Gene Ganiere at 414-223-6092. Thx

Re: VMRM Cooperative Memory Management - working?

2007-12-12 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:58:04 +0930, Fred Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I would like to persist with CMM. My original question still stands... how can I verify that it is actually working? Well, there are 2 answers to this. First, the Linux guest has issued at least one ESSA

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
That would be scratch0 I believe. I've been trying some stuff this morning after reading your note. I disassociated the drive from the scratch pool and when I re-started the RMSMASTR machine, there were no sense errors. I was able to manually mount a tape which was volspecific. After

Re: VMRM Cooperative Memory Management - working?

2007-12-12 Thread barton
There is a ton (metric or otherwise) of information in the monitor validating effects of CMM. But if you don't have ESALPS, I'm clueless about what you would look at. On ESALPS, there's user perspective, there's page space perspective, there's page rates, there's page movement above/below the

RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have one user who started exhibiting strange symptoms today. When he enters the RDRLIST command, VERIFY is set for 1-132, not 1-80. * He is using the PROFRLST from the S-disk, verified by me. He has not monkeyed with the DEFAULTS for anything - everything is vanilla. * He has set

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Bates
Try logging on with your id and see if it is the same results. Check the MODEL number of the device his session is emulating. Could be it thinks it has a larger screen? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Those errors sound like something I once had. The errors were inconsistant and somewhat random. I spent weeks writing error recovery routines for my program and was pretty much at my witts end. Then I switched the cable to a different card and PRESTO the errors went to the z/OS LPAR.. Maybe not

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
The size of the screen is irrelevant; the verify columns should be 1-80 on any size screen. RDRLIST and FILELIST both keep an exact copy of bytes 1-80 in bytes 81-160 for use when (a) determining what has been asltered when a profix command is entered, and (b) refreshing the screen or line. When I

Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
disclaimer - I do have this reported to IBM I have a challenge with Dirmaint and RACF Doing a DIRM ADD userid results in the account being created but an MDISK or AMDISK statements in the userid direct are not fully processed. By that I mean that the directory knows about the disks but when I

{SPAM?} RE: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Bates
Well that was the first thing that occurred to me. Next I think I'd try releasing his a-disk (and any other disks he might have modified EXECs or XEDITs on) and define a temporary disk as A . Run rdrlist. Maybe there is something else lurking with a funky name. I would also keep trying with

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Dec 12, 2007 9:47 PM, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this and/or have any insight? Have you configured DIRMAINT to bring directory changes online immediately? I believe default is to postpone it to some inconvenient time. RACF defaults are such that the user

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
It is the initial RDRLIST display, as below, from which you may PEEK, RECEIVE or otherwise manipulate the listed files. 1-80 is still its proper verify setting. RSCHUH RDRLIST A0 V 164 Trunc=164 Size=6 Line=1 Col=1 Alt=0 Cmd Filename Filetype Class User at Node Hold Records

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The disks go online immediately. I was unable to do the Q MDISK as I could not find the correct syntax. Neither a Q DISK and Q DASD show the disk. A RACF RL VMMDISK does Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering

Re: DIRMAINT authentication

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/11/2007 at 04:05 EST, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B) There should be no additional charge. Not having to maintain separate authorization paradigms in each product just about has be less expensive for the vendor. Certainly there would be an initial startup cost, but

Re: DIRMAINT authentication

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/11/2007 at 08:45 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was where I was going a few months ago with the idea of integrating RACF into the base VM. Even given the general awfulness of RACF, at that point IBM would have a basic level of function to depend on, and you

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Kris Buelens
You must also search for X$RLST$X XEDIT macro, it is the heart of RDRLIST 2007/12/12, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is the initial RDRLIST display, as below, from which you may PEEK, RECEIVE or otherwise manipulate the listed files. 1-80 is still its proper verify setting. RSCHUH

VM session question

2007-12-12 Thread Gentry, Stephen
We have an auditor who wants to know if VM (or VM:Secure if you have it) has an idle time out feature. For example, if a user hasn't done anything in their VM session for x amount of time, they get forced off. VM has a DISCONNECT_TIMEOUT parameter as part of the FEATURES statement in the SYSTEM

Re: VM session question

2007-12-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
Your performance monitor usually has this feature. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Bates
Yeah, same thing I saw when I looked. Thought Wow, mine's V 164? Then realized variable lrecl 164. Q VER shows OFF 1 80. Haven't found anything to change it yet. Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Kris Buelens
Rob gave the correct syntax: Q MDISK USER xx DIRECTORY But, indeed, if the volume on which the minidisk is located is not attached to SYSTEM, Q MDISK tells it is not found. So, my guess is you need to issue ATTACH SYSTEM, where is the address of the volume. 2007/12/12, Lionel B. Dyck

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/12/2007 at 03:48 EST, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: disclaimer - I do have this reported to IBM I have a challenge with Dirmaint and RACF Doing a DIRM ADD userid results in the account being created but an MDISK or AMDISK statements in the userid direct are

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
That is interesting. I find no such file anywhere in my search order. Neither can I find it with EXECMAP (banana. Yet RDRLIST works fine for me. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Jim Bohnsack
My MVS counterpart, 20+ years ago, would ask me to run with a piece of equipment on VM if it was suspect on MVS because, at that time MVS error recovery was so much better than VM's that it was harder to tell if there was a hardware error on something connected to MVS. It would just recover,

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
ok - tried it and the disk is not found. I am unable to do an attach for it. I receive this when I logon to the guest immediately after cms starts: DMSACP113S A(191) not attached or invalid device address Here is the directory entry (from a dirm review) MDISK 0191 3390 5420 10 V1U001 MR ALL

Re: VM session question

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/12/2007 at 03:51 EST, Gentry, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an auditor who wants to know if VM (or VM:Secure if you have it) has an idle time out feature. For example, if a user hasn't done anything in their VM session for x amount of time, they get forced off. VM

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Bates
I looked and don't see anything that is obviously part of RDRLIST. Lots of others though. Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux w. (972) 753-5967 c. (214) 907-5071 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
Yes, no x$* that is part of RDRLIST. There is a file for PEEK and FILELIST and lots of others. DRAWLOGO even has one. I tried looking for %$* * *. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent:

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Kris Buelens
Get PROFRLST SXEDIT, insert a TRACE ?i and file as PROFRLST XEDIT A, Start RDRLIST, and issuse 'PIPE STACK | CONS | BUFFER |STACK' to see what will be executed when PROFRLST ends Also issue 'REFRESH';'CP SLEEP 5 SEC' to have a look at what is already in the userid RDRLIST file 2007/12/12,

Re: DFSMSRM Errors in RMSMASTR

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Keeton
The APARs which allow RMS to issue a query device without attaching the device are VM64062 and VM64206 for RMS, and VM64157 for CP. However, none of this service in my belief will help solve the I/O errors you are receiving. If you associate a device with a particular scratch pool, and there are

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/12/2007 at 04:55 EST, Bob Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked and don't see anything that is obviously part of RDRLIST. Lots of others though. PROFRLST XEDIT is the thing RDRLIST EXEC invokes. There is no X$RLST$X XEDIT. The default VERIFY setting is OFF 1 80, which

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
Problem found by Mark Llewellyn. There was a userid RDRLIST A0. Its properties were being used by XEDIT to set the verify range BECAUSE THERE IS NO SET VERIFY COMMAND being executed by RDRLIST or PROFRLST. Sigh! How can something like this live to be such a ripe old age without ever having been

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-12 Thread Kris Buelens
Apparently, the default is not VERIFY 1 80, but VERIFY 1 min(lrecl.1,lscreen.2) to say it in Rexx speak. 2007/12/13, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Problem found by Mark Llewellyn. There was a userid RDRLIST A0. Its properties were being used by XEDIT to set the verify range BECAUSE THERE