Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Paul Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to z/VM and have a question. Should I define virtual processors to z/VM service ids/guests (TCPIP, Linux guests...) with the 'MACHINE ESA ## CPU #' control statements in the USER DIRECT file? Is there a

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Kris Buelens
SEGGEN also makes fn PSEGMAP and fn LSEGMAP. Maybe the HELPSEG segment is full and HELPSEG PSEGMAP, or HELP LSEGMAP may contain error messages. In the past I often had to issue the failing SEGGEN command manually to see what went wrong. 2008/2/14, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your problem

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-14 Thread Kris Buelens
Beware too with the SET SHARE of MP virtual machines. Simply said: CP does *not* schedule/dispatch virtual machines, it dispatches/schedules virtual processors, and each virtual processor gets a SHARE assigned. So, for a virtual machine with SET SHARE REL 100 and two processors, each virtual

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beware too with the SET SHARE of MP virtual machines. Simply said: CP does *not* schedule/dispatch virtual machines, it dispatches/schedules virtual processors, and each virtual processor gets a SHARE assigned. So,

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Or would that be a zA? LOL. But marketing guys don't know hexadecimal :)) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who know binary and those who don't

Re: SHARE Orlando: LAST CALL FOR CHAIRS!!

2008-02-14 Thread Bob Neill
Mark, I can pick up: Thu 08:00a 800 9117 Introduction to Installation and Service of z/VM using VMSES/E Jim Vincent Bob Neill email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 919-224-1892T/L678-1892 Phillies in 2008! Mark Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/vse/pdf3/techconf2006/G02.pdf All

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once!!! I've had enough of the rampant genderism on this

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
According to Dr. Seuss, the final authority on all matters virtual (in his epic tome, On Beyond Zebra), the letters after Z are: Yuzz, Wum, Um, Humpf, Fuddle, Glikk, Nuh, Snee, Quan, Thnad, Spazz, Floob, Zatz, Jogg, Flunn, Itch, Yekk, Vroom, and Hi. Therefore, expect to see the shiny new

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Mike Walter wrote: Ahem... a zIT (remember: Software has Slashes, while hardware don' need no stinkin' Slashes - save 'em for Zorro). And would a zIT have a software pre-req of the Clearasys utility to initialize the new system? Would it still require Clearasys

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Jones
IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15 EST, Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! No no no. z/HE is

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No no no. z/HE is the System z way of saying s/he, aka she / he, but with more style and flair. ;-) A definite French accent, I would think. Practice more during SCIDS at z/HERE Rob

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Make that yuzz1 - no slashes in the hardware (or is that just its costs?), please. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Llewellyn, Mark Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:51 AM To:

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-14 Thread Stephen Frazier
My R.O.T. is always define 1 virtual processor. Except when performance data shows that more than one is better. :) Also, you should never (except in certain really weird cases) define more virtual processors than you have real processors. Paul Vincent wrote: Hello List, I'm new to z/VM and

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
We were having some issues with our biggest app (about a dozen IFLs worth of CPU capacity) last summer. We would get in a situation where if there were some other things demanding CPU, it would seem to start using more CPU itself and transaction times started getting longer and longer and failing

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Carlos A. Bodra
2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Ron Schmiedge escreveu: Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Jones
Yes, and after you've upgraded to a newer, fancier, sleek model, it will get to keep the machine room;-) Schuh, Richard wrote: And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From:

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread David Boyes
I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just cream. At least one of you knows the story. -- db

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Elliott
Google found the following announcement presentations: ... All show a foil with s07 having machine type 2097. Perhaps they all copied the same foil with the same typo? :-) Ron: Yes, they all had the same typo. Jim

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread P L Lovely
HA - funniest I would recommend: Big Blue Topaz with sterling silver trim. And high maintenance models will cover any extra baggage! _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:04 PM To:

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Elliott
2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Carlos: The z6 mainframe chip-set is NOT based in POWER6 chips. There is some reuse of circuitry, but these will still be very much System z technology. See the presentation at:

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
And it will get jealous if you upgrade to a better model. And don't even THINK about outsourcing some of your work to a timesharing service while you have one. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Disk layout is q disk LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 100 30803-98697 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 132 1285-79335 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Richard Troth
Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
You're 191 is probably too full at 98% there. Erase something and try again! Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 12:32 PM, David Boyes wrote: I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just “cream”. At least one of you knows the story. I NEED MORE COUGH SYRUP, STAT! Adam

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread RPN01
On 2/14/08 10:37 AM, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread David Boyes
Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; Viewing of Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is now obligatory.

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Cleared it down to 32% - same problem. (thanks though) Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Stephen Buckles
Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your teenager's room. Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu 02/14/2008 10:41 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu To

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Neale Ferguson
But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:56 -0600, Stephen Buckles wrote: Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mark Pace
jeez. Getting a little over the top. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Neale Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu,

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Neale Ferguson
Yes, but I believe the SRDL/SLDL instructions have been removed as there were problems with the new processors getting a bit on the side. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 11:48 -0800, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot.

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Huegel, Thomas
And don't forget those anniversaries. You know, the delivery date, the first z/VM IPL, the first z/OS crash.and on and on and on... That is what makes the younger models so attractive, not so many things to remember. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of the great challenges of contemporary dramaturgy. We no more want Willy Loman to solve

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Peter . Webb
So Mary Anne, Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: February 14, 2008 14:52 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Yes, but I believe

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 02:56 EST, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cleared it down to 32% - same problem. Please call it into the Support Center. Getting an apparently random RC=32 from SEGGEN without any indication of the error really isn't acceptable. Alan Altmark z/VM

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Kris Buelens
Have you looked for PSEGMAP and LSEGMAPs? 2008/2/14, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cleared it down to 32% - same problem. (thanks though) Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
62224,49R,000 (I opened it yesterday as soon as I realized that it wasn't anything quick and easy that I was missing). Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent:

DFSMS/VM

2008-02-14 Thread Hilliard, Chris
Happy VD... I've been researching the use of the DFSMS/VM feature, mainly for tape library support. I'm having difficulty determining if it's already installed on my system or if it's a separately licensed feature that I have to order. I'm currently running z/VM 5.3. Thanks...Chris

Re: DFSMS/VM

2008-02-14 Thread Huegel, Thomas
It is a nocharge seperate feature. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hilliard, Chris Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DFSMS/VM Happy VD... I've been researching the use of the

DFSMS/VM

2008-02-14 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I've been researching the use of the DFSMS/VM feature, mainly for tape library support. I'm having difficulty determining if it's already installed on my system or if it's a separately licensed feature that I have to order. I'm currently running z/VM 5.3. Check for the existence of the DFSMS

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Turns out the DCSS needed to be increased in size due to new products on the Help disk. Changed the definitions from C00-CFF to C00-D7F and the sequence finished successfully. Thanks to everyone here and at IBM that helped out. Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Odd, wonder why yours are smaller. Both 5.2 and 5.3 seems to have C00-DFF here. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action

Installation Verification Procedures

2008-02-14 Thread Fred Schmidt
Does anybody run some form of Installation Verification Procedures (IVP's) for z/VM's base components? If so, are they home-grown, or where did you find them? I note that some licensed products for z/VM have IVP's in their Program Directories, but don't see anything mentioned for the z/VM base

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Mike Walter
I would ask IBM to not close the PMR until there is a better error msg than just a return code. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates - Original Message - From: Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02/14/2008 06:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PUT2PROD Error Turns out

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) MA

VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)

2008-02-14 Thread Mark S Waterbury
Does anyone have a copy of the old Waterloo tapes CIA Mods tape referen ced in this entry in the ABSTRACT ABSTRACT of the Waterloo tape for VM/370 Re l6? M1086V00CIA MODS-- Our local mods that have been contributed to the Waterloo VM Library now consume more than a reel of tape. Since our local

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
An upgrade procedure thing no doubt. There really isn't a lot of guidelines around practicing safe upgrades :) We normally take the 2nd level test system's dcss's and then load in the non-z/VM itself ones that had been dumped to tape from 1st level and then merge them to 2nd level system. Then