Hi,
i'm really interested in getting a deeper understanding of IBM z/VM.
I was very happy that IBM offers now a evaluation version of z/VM 5.3 to
everyone:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/
I really like hercules to play around with Linux for zSeries - but is it also
allowed
to run this z/VM
On 4/21/09 2:04 AM, Marc Schoechlin mschoech...@256bit.org wrote:
I was very happy that IBM offers now a evaluation version of z/VM 5.3 to
everyone:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/
Umm, no. Anyone with a z10. Not emulators.
I really like hercules to play around with Linux for zSeries - but is
Hi, Marc.
The unfortuate status of the z/VM 5.3 evaluation version is
that it's license from IBM states that it can only be
installed on a z10 system. Installing it anywhere else would
be a violation of the license terms.
Yes, Hercules can run the evaluation version, so I've been
told, but not
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 02:07 EDT, Marc Schoechlin
mschoech...@256bit.org wrote:
I was very happy that IBM offers now a evaluation version of z/VM 5.3 to
everyone: http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/
I really like hercules to play around with Linux for zSeries - but is it
also
allowed to run
Something that we have just noticed - but may have been with us for a
while.
We have found that after we open an FTP session to a VM minidisk, FTPSERVE
retains the RW link for about 2mins 45sec after the FTP client has broken
the connection with a BYE or QUIT
Can anyone throw any light on
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 09:28 EDT, Colin Allinson
cgallin...@amadeus.com wrote:
Something that we have just noticed - but may have been with us for a
while.
We have found that after we open an FTP session to a VM minidisk,
FTPSERVE
retains the RW link for about 2mins 45sec after the
Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote :-
With what client? When I do it with the Windows or CMS ftp client to a
z/VM 5.4 FTP server, the disk is detached immediately, as expected.
It is a Windows client.
OK - that is good assurance that I am not going mad. I am beginning to
suspect
Hello Marc Schoechlin,
Hercules can run most IBM z/xxx products along with the older VM/ESA and VSE
products. BUT... it is highly illegal.
The Wrath and Fury of IBM LEGAL will ascend from the sky.
And you will be told to CEASE AND DISSIST NOW! with great emphasis on the
NOW.
Ed Martin
We're about to apply some RSU's to our current 5.3 system.System has
been running great without issues.
Right now, I'd like to minimize the downtime for our users.Since we're
running z/Linux with production servers.
Is running SERVICE EXEC distruptive to the running system? I would
Neither service or put2prod are disruptive to the guests.
It's the shutdown that will be :)
Marcy
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Karl Kingston wrote:
We're about to apply some RSU's to our current 5.3 system.System has
been running great without issues.
Right now, I'd like to minimize the downtime for our users.Since we're
running z/Linux with production servers.
Is running SERVICE EXEC distruptive to the
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 09:19:44AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote:
allowed to run this z/VM evaluation version on hercules?
No. The z/VM 5.3 evaluation edition is licensed to run only on a real
z10.
hm, thats bad.
It's very difficult to get z/VM systems (with full maint privileges)
for
They also make the LCDS system available to anyone who asks. Google Linux
Community Development System for details.
On 4/21/09 1:15 PM, Marc Schoechlin m...@256bit.org wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 09:19:44AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote:
allowed to run this z/VM evaluation version on
Updates to the CP nucleus would never require a reIPL in a short time: the
CP nucleus resides in storage, storing a new one on MAINT CF1 doesn't harm
at all.
However, if there are updates to the CMS resident, many CMS users are at
risk after PUT2PROD, you can restart them one by one or by a reIPL.
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 01:21 EDT, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
wrote:
For GCS, even SERVICE is a bit disruptive: the GCS saves system is
replaced,
what means an IPL GCS will fail untill the GCS recovery machine (hence
all
other GCS users) are restarted. Q NSS USERS GCS will
Thanks.
The following is from some tests we conducted to compare *SIGNAL to straight
IUCV. 2097 Dallas Development, second level VM, under CMS.
100,000 signal / acknowledgement transmissions. The straight IUCV test sent
only 8 bytes to try and put it on equal footing with *SIGNAL.
4 *SIGNAL
Shut down the provided Linux system and type IPL CMS. Presto. VM system.
On 4/21/09 2:06 PM, Marc Schoechlin mschoech...@256bit.org wrote:
Thanks, thats interesting. LCDS only seems to provide linux systems.
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 02:17:25PM -0400, David Boyes wrote:
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:17:25 -0400
From: David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net
Subject: Re: Installing IBM z/VM to Hercules
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Shut down the provided Linux system and type IPL CMS. Presto. VM
Yeah, that's the limitation of using the LCDS boxyou only get a class G
user id. Useful if you want to learn CMS commands and facilities, but not
so good if you want to do MAINT level stuff
DJ
Original Message:
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From: Marc Schoechlin mschoech...@256bit.org
Date: Tue, 21
On 4/21/09 2:21 PM, Marc Schoechlin mschoech...@256bit.org wrote:
Shut down the provided Linux system and type IPL CMS. Presto. VM system.
:-) I asked for a z/VM system with maint access
Install the demo system there. There's plenty of space, and that actually
might be a legal venue.
Where is this discussed? When I search the books on the RSCS shelf for
GROUP=NO, all I get is a blank page. Neither do I get any hits when searching
the z/VM Group Control System manual.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
I almost hate to ask, what is the source of that analogy?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
It'll perform like a hyena with a bullet through it's head
On 4/21/2009 at 2:17 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote:
Shut down the provided Linux system and type IPL CMS. Presto. VM system.
I'm not aware that any of the LCDS users get access to a z/VM console.
Mark Post
You need to build a special GCS for it. Try this in MAINT
VMFSETUP ZVM GCS
GROUP
or maybe GROUP GCSRSCS
Group presents panels to define GCS
2009/4/21 Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
Where is this discussed? When I search the books on the RSCS shelf for
GROUP=NO, all I get is a blank
Being old and forgetful, I can't remember if an IPL is required
or if PAGE volumes can be added on the fly.
z/VM 5.2 on z9 BC with SHARK 3390 DASD
Already ran DSF FORMAT and ALLOCATE functions
Already updated SYSTEM CONFIG file with new CP OWNED slots and volumes
Already updated USER DIRECT to
You missed the CP DEFINE CPOWNED Slot nnn PAGE01
Robert Payne
rpa...@tad.org
Sent
And then: CP START DASD rdev ALL
or: CP START VOLid volser ALL
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Greg Dyrda gregory.l.dy...@us.hsbc.com
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04/21/2009 02:13 PM
Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System
THANKS !!!
I kept search for SET and ALLOC and ATTACH type commands :(
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on
Behalf Of Greg Dyrda
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:13 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: adding more PAGE
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: 21 April 2009 14:22
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Installing IBM z/VM to Hercules
Hi, Marc.
The unfortuate status of the z/VM 5.3 evaluation version
OK, but Q ALLOC PAGE doesn't change and I would guess that
is because we are NOT really paging yet. But then again, I
would think the ALLOC part of that command means it shows
everything that is allocated and eligible for paging ??
.. snip .
And then: CP START
Rather than GROUP=NO, there is an entry for Single User Environment (YES or
NO). Above that line, there is one that asks for RECOVERY MACHINE USERID
(required)
The note dealing with the single user entry reads:
5. Will the GCS system run in a single user environment?
Enter YES to create a
I'd say the recovery userid you specify will be ignored.
In fact, in such a single user GCS userid you could run RSCS, VTAM, VSCS,
and AVS together, they are all multitasking. An abend in one would cause
the death of them all. That's -I guess- why the help mentions test
environment.
The GCS
Can someone translate this into English please?
19.2.151 DTCCTC058E
--
*DTCCTC058E* *CTCA* *device* device*:* *Unexpected* *Network*
*type:* type *at* *position*
input_position
*Explanation:* The system encountered an unexpected network type as the
Yes, that volser and its TOTAL PAGES column should show up. Here's an
example from a z/VM 5.4 system running 3 z/OS guests and a handful of
mostly idle Linux for System z P.O.C. servers.
q alloc page
EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH%
VOLID RDEV START
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 01:55 EDT, Gary M. Dennis
gary.den...@mantissa.com wrote:
The IUCV tests seemed insensitive to transmission size. Whether we sent
8
bytes or 32,000, the 5 to 7 second window held.
The savings of *SIGNAL would be the use of the broadcast function. Instead
of UserA
Must be some ONLINE thing that I need to do !!!
=
q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0601
Are you saying that in a single user environment, it is unnecessary to even log
the specified recovery machine on? If not, is it even necessary to specify a
real id?
It appears that what is being implied, but not stated in this thread, is:
1. For a single user system, you must specify an
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 04:56 EDT, Shimon Lebowitz shimon...@gmail.com
wrote:
Can someone translate this into English please?
DTCCTC058E CTCA device device: Unexpected Network type: type at
position
input_position
My case had a network type of 'C9E5' at position 2, whatever that
Maybe VARY ON rdev
But surely ATTACH rdev SYSTEM
2009/4/21 Robert Payne rpa...@tad.org
Must be some ONLINE thing that I need to do !!!
=
q
cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0601
(64-bit)
Generated at
The ATTACH SYSTEM did the trick. All is well now.
THANKS for all the replys !!
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:53 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:
On Tuesday, 04/21/2009 at 05:30 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
wrote:
Are you saying that in a single user environment, it is unnecessary to
even
log the specified recovery machine on? If not, is it even necessary to
specify
a real id?
That is correct. There is no recovery id.
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