Re: Totally Off Topic: Time to get out the black helicopters.

2009-06-10 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
What shocked me in that article, was this: As any logical person who has seen Karen Black's Trilogy of Terror or any one of the Chucky movies will recognize, these events prove one thing: These teddy bears are evil. Somehow, they have obtained the ability to possess their owners' minds

Re: HMC questions

2009-06-10 Thread fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de
As far as I know the customer is not allowed to make any changes to the software of an HMC. There is an upgrade process from the IBM support which does it. I had one customer who has bought a used z800 with an OS/2 HMC. During the refresh of the patches the IBM technician also reinstalled the

A couple of Wikipedia article

2009-06-10 Thread Ivan Warren
Folks, I whipped a couple of wikipedia article about VM subjects a few month ago. Nothing fancy really, but I realize it'd probably be nice if those get reviewed and possibly checked for accuracy, corrected if necessary, etc.. The 2 articles are :

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Robert J McCarthy
The CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command has helped to clarify our problem. It appear that the problem may be in the way linux shuts itself dowm. With t he command, it appear that everthing works as designed from a vm standpoint; however linux never seems to complete it's shutdown. Although a guest is

Re: Teddy Bears

2009-06-10 Thread Burton, Randy
It's far worse than we think. Try a Google search of evil teddy bears. 1,230,000 hits. Yikes. Now try good teddy bears. 23,600,000 hits. That makes me feel so much better. At least when it comes to teddy bears, good triumphs over evil at a ratio of about 19:1. From Wikipedia: The teddy

LOGONBY and FTP (was: A Strange Use Of AUTOLOG)

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Bodenstein
I played around with LOGONBY and FTP and found something a little strange. Context: z/VM 5.4 with RACF installed, CP deferring to RACF for almost everything. RACF profile SURROGAT LOGONBY.TESTUSER exists, with the ACL not including TESTUSER itself. CP logon allows users in the ACL to log

Re: LOGONBY and FTP (was: A Strange Use Of AUTOLOG)

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 10:54 EDT, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: RACF profile SURROGAT LOGONBY.TESTUSER exists, with the ACL not including TESTUSER itself. ... FTP logon allows users in the ACL to use testuser.by.surrogate to log on to TESTUSER as expected, but DOES allow

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
We start/stop oracle with an init.d script so oracle's start/stop is part of Linux's boot and shutdown sequence. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Robert J McCarthy Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:46 AM To:

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Robert J McCarthy
John, When you shutdown your linux guest, do you use a CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command to tell linux to shutdown, or do you manually shutdown linux. Our manual shutdown appears to work, but when we try to automate it with the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN from vm; linux appears to send a response to vm saying

the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread sunny . hu
RPIMGR031E RESOURCE MAINT.CF1 SPECIFIED BY LINK COMMAND NOT FOUND RPIMGR031E RESOURCE MAINT.CF2 SPECIFIED BY LINK COMMAND NOT FOUND RPIMGR031E RESOURCE MAINT.CF3 SPECIFIED BY LINK COMMAND NOT FOUND RPIMGR031E RESOURCE MAINT.190 SPECIFIED BY LINK COMMAND NOT FOUND RPIMGR031E RESOURCE MAINT.2CC

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Bruce Hayden
Did you complete all the steps in the program directory? In particular, did you run RPIDIRCT to scan your current directory and did you run RPIBLDDS to load this output file into your initial database? You can find the program directory at http://www.vm.ibm.com/progdir/5vmrac40.pdf On Wed, Jun

z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO?

2009-06-10 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Is it possible to download the entire z/VM manuals from ISO's somewhere? Thanks, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas

Re: z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO?

2009-06-10 Thread Wakser, David
How about http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zvmpdf/ -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO? Is

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Scott Rohling
I can't remember the name of the utility offhand, but I'm pretty sure there is an EXEC that will generate an initial RACF list of commands to define all the users and minidisks. Beware that the definitions may not be what your security people want them to be - so you may want them to examine the

Re: LOGONBY and FTP

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Thanks Alan. In the interest of good citizenship I'll open a Sev 3 PMR. Regarding NOPASSWORD, we do typically use that for SVMs, etc. Not this time because of what I was testing. Mark At 11:32 AM 6/10/2009, Alan Altmark wrote: FTP logon allows users in the ACL to use testuser.by.surrogate

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Scott Rohling
Do you have Linux set up to honor the signal (usually some updates inittab and zipl.conf)? You have to direct the signal to call a script that will issue the shutdown command... Scott On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: John, When you

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
I CP FORCE guest WITHIN nn Like CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN that triggers the linux's inittab CTRLALTDEL entry. What do you mean when you say linux appears to send a response to VM saying it has completed shutdown; but apparently it really hasn't ? Is that sent response just a message on the guest's

Re: z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO?

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Mondy
You could use IBM Softcopy Librarian to download both book manager and PDS formats. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/ebrsclwj.exe Steve H. Mondy Mainframe Technical Support Manager Open Solutions Inc. 3900 Essex Lane, Suite 400 Houston, TX 77027-5100 Office 713-965-8457 Cell

Re: z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO?

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 12:36 EDT, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com wrote: Is it possible to download the entire z/VM manuals from ISO's somewhere? IBM does not provide ISO images of the z/VM Softcopy Publications DVD. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Robert J McCarthy
John, I am sorry I wasn't clear. VM and linux are communicating : When I enter the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command from MAINT linux begins shutting down. A short time later vm receives the termination from linux and writes the following message to the vm MAINT log : HCPSIG2113I User ZORACLE2 has

Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 Connect and Linux on Z

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 01:33 EDT, Tom Duerbusch thdbu...@swbell.net wrote: I don't think UDB uses zIIP engines. They use IFL engines. Performance seems to be good, especially over hipersockets. Boy, this conversation has taken an intresting turn. :-) The question is whether DB2

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread sunny . hu
Yes. I generate RPDIRCT SYSUT1 from Dirmaint. And I rpibildds it. Then I am able to login Maint. Here is I saw the error. Sunny Hu Information Management W.C.B. Alberta (780) 498-4739 sunny...@wcb.ab.ca Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
If you were using VM:Secure, you would do it via the Rules Facility. Is there anything equivalent in RACF? Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Keeton Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 02:01 EDT, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: John, I am sorry I wasn't clear. VM and linux are communicating : When I enter the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command from MAINT linux begins shutting down. A short time later vm receives the termination from

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread David Boyes
It appears that linux sends the termination response to vm before it has really completed it's (linux)shutdown. In linux's inittab we have shutdown -h coded. But your example shows a automatic reboot and the system trying to come back up. Something else is wrong... do you specify

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread David Boyes
We have the shutdown - h in the inittab. Hmm. But you are still getting the shutting down for reboot message, which seems odd to me. I think there's something funny in your init scripts for starting/stopping Oracle -- there should be something there that makes the shutdown process

Re: z/VM 5.4 manuals ISO?

2009-06-10 Thread David Boyes
You could use IBM Softcopy Librarian to download both book manager and PDS formats. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/ebrsclwj.exe That will get you the individual files. I think he's asking if .iso images of the entire collection can be downloaded in one swell foop (analogous to the

Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 Connect and Linux on Z

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Post
On 6/10/2009 at 2:19 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: -snip- Boy, this conversation has taken an intresting turn. :-) I would tend toward calling it surreal. Mark Post

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Scott Rohling
What does your RPDIRCT SYSUT1 look like (Please don't append it here!)? Does it look like it was generated properly? Are the RDEFINE for the MAINT disks in there? Any errors during any of these processes? Scott On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:42 AM, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: Yes. I generate

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Robert J McCarthy
David, The reboot was 3 hours later when the guest was manually brought up after the corrupted filesystem was fixed. The last message received at shutdown was : Jun 7 02:02:48 zoracle2 syslog-ng[1780]: syslog-ng version 1.6.8 going down We did not have vmpoff=LOGOFF in the parm lines. The

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Bruce Hayden
RACF doesn't have a limit on the number of surrogate users that can use the 'by' option of logon. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Dave Keetondave.kee...@state.or.us wrote: I'm trying to determine if RACF will allow me to bypass the 8 user limitation imposed with the LOGONBY attribute of the

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
RACF lets you define as many LOGONBY users for a target userid as you like. RDEFINE SURROGAT LOGONBY.PERFSVM UACC(NONE) and here we permit the staff to doLOGON PERFSVM BY staffx at z/VM logon screen: PERMIT LOGONBY.PERFSVM CLASS(SURROGAT) ID(STAFF1) ACCESS(READ) PERMIT

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Yes, this will work in RACF: If using RACF, when you define the user as LOGONBY, it can by default no longer be logged on to with its own password (what is normally what you'd want). But, with an extra command you can restore that possibility: 1. Define TERRY as LOGONBY RAC RDEFINE

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 02:16 EDT, Dave Keeton dave.kee...@state.or.us wrote: I'm trying to determine if RACF will allow me to bypass the 8 user limitation imposed with the LOGONBY attribute of the USER DIRECT entry. I need to add operations staff to a virtual machine so they can

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Bob, I think it's as the others said, Linux is shutting down the way you told it to do but not the way you intend it to do: Here's how we shutdown a disconnected sles 10 oracle server gracefully here, hope the example helps you: /etc/inittab has a record to run 'shutdown -h now' in response

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Post
On 6/10/2009 at 3:15 PM, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: -snip- We did not have vmpoff=LOGOFF in the parm lines. The linux guests were in a vm DSC status. We were not logged into any of them. I did notice however that the guests were all logged off of vm once the vm

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: Then I am able to login Maint. Here is I saw the error. If you get the errors during the logon of MAINT, it looks like the MDISK class is active. I have seen that before so it might very well be the default. The RPIDIRCT most likely

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT)john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: PERMIT LOGONBY.PERFSVM  CLASS(SURROGAT) ID(STAFF1)   ACCESS(READ) Do yourself a favor and connect the various individuals to RACF groups and then permit these groups to the logonby profiles. Even when you

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
( resent to correct my /etc/init.d/rc.3/ to /etc/init.d/rc3.d/) Bob, I think it's as the others said, Linux is shutting down the way you told it to do but not the way you intend it to do: Here's how we shutdown a disconnected sles 10 oracle server gracefully here, hope the example helps you:

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread sunny . hu
I used dirm user withpass Rpidirct user withpass z a The file is the same like what RACF Program Directory describe: ADDUSER RDEFINE Permit. NO error when issue Vmfview service I only want to establish the simple and basic RACF without share database. Do I have the

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Ronald van der Laan
Dave, Using RACF you can have hundreds of logonby users, or you can group users and authorize those groups to do logonby to a server. We normally have a racf group for the system programmers, and grant that racf group access to the logonby profiles for the server userids. A similar setup is used

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
Please post the console messages from post syslog going down. Marcy - Original Message - From: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Wed Jun 10 14:15:06 2009 Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Bruce Hayden
Did the RPIDIRCT SYSUT1 file contain RDEFINE statements for all the minidisks? Did you have DIRMAINT send you the complete directory file (DIRM USER WITHPASS) or did you try to read it directly from one of the disks? Something obviously went wrong - maybe you should IPL your old system from parm

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Dave Keeton
Thanks to Rob everyone else who responded. I'm pretty new to RACF as well, so your examples helped out a lot. Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com Reply-to: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Jonathan R Nolting
Sunny, Looks like you ran the DIRM USER command to get the copy of the directory that was passed to RPIDIRCT to create the RACF commands. However, it does not look like you ran the RPIBLDDS to actually update the RACF database since you indicated running VMFVIEW SERVICE. Can you confirm you

Re: Clean Linux Guest Shutdown

2009-06-10 Thread Robert J McCarthy
John, We checked the linux scripts on several guests with what you sent us and our scripts are very similar. We went through the process with one test linux /oracle guest and reviewed the log. This guest came down cleanly without any issues. Oracle shutdown down normally, all within about 30

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 04:07 EDT, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: I used dirm user withpass Rpidirct user withpass z a The file is the same like what RACF Program Directory describe: ADDUSER RDEFINE

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread Scott Rohling
Maybe you just need to do a refresh? I'm not a RACF expert, but RACF often needs a SETROPTS REFRESH of some things (but you'd think such things would be handled by this process) Your not having a permission problem -- RACF is saying the resources haven't been defined yet.. which sounds like

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Thanks, makes a lot of sense, I'll pass that on to our RACF admin. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: LOGONBY 8 user

Re: the errors after turn on RACF

2009-06-10 Thread sunny . hu
In RPIDIRCT SYSUT1 I do have RDEFINE VMMDISK MAINT.CF1 OWNER(MAINT) UACC(NONE) PERMIT MAINT.CF1 CLASS(VMMDISK) RESET ID(MAINT) AC(ALTER) Thanks Rod, Scott and Jon, My errors is gone now. :) I guess the way I did : log in IBMUSER Rac SETROPTS

Re: LOGONBY 8 user limitation

2009-06-10 Thread Edi Lopes Alves
Hi Dave, We have 15 users shared to be used for support purpose and a great number of users sharing them. You can define a GROUP and CONNECT those users to them. Abraços / Best regards Edi Lopes Alves IBM Global Accounts (IGA) z/VM Systems Base, Vicom Program Products Support ITIL Foundation