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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Adam Thornton
> Sent: 29 July 2009 02:26
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 and Hercules on Z9
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:32 PM, John McKown wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Tom
Duerbusch wrote:
> Can cache be turned off for a volume on the DS6800?
>
> I don't think so. But I would like to confirm that.
I believe it's up to the device to decide what to do with the cache
bits in the channel program. Since it emulates "real disks" usin
On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Graeme Moss wrote:
The company I work for is very tight with money (eg they don't pay
me what I would like to receive) and the section I work for
(Software Factory) only gets hand-me-down mainframes. I can see the
situation arising where our clients who are on a
>I really looking for the manual to setup linux system on two z/VM.
>Could you give me the detail manual ?
z/VM CP Planning and Administration
Dennis O'Brien
"That's one sma
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:32 PM, John McKown wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Adam Thornton wrote:
On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Edward M Martin wrote:
I can say that, 1) it is illegal to run z/VM (pick a version)
under Hercules, 2) they do not like it, and 3) they do not have any
sense of hu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:30 AM, O'Brien, Dennis
L wrote:
> Sunny,
>
> If you really have two guests up at the same time, using the same DASD, I
> can’t believe that one or both of them haven’t crashed.
>
>
>
> We have the same guests defined on two z/VM systems. We use the XLINK
> feature of CSE
On 7/27/09 1:03 PM, "sunny...@wcb.ab.ca" wrote:
> What will happen if one zlinux running on 2 z/VM?
> There is a IP conflict and dasd R/W conflict.
> So it is the same as running two linux server sharing the same IP and the same
> disks?
Exactly.
> And z/VM has done nothing with
>> We are licensed to run z/VM 5.x on our z9. I do not believe there is a
>> restriction that it must be the host system in a lpar thus running lpar
>> -> vm -> linux -> hercules -> vm is quite legal. I am trying to asertain
>> should I bother going to our procurment people to ask them to talk to I
Hello Tom,
Never tried, but I do not think you can. I have not found the command
or any reference how to adjust the cache.
Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Tom
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Adam Thornton wrote:
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Edward M Martin wrote:
>
> >
> > I can say that, 1) it is illegal to run z/VM (pick a version)
> > under Hercules, 2) they do not like it, and 3) they do not have any
> > sense of humor.
>
> Perfectly fine to run it und
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Edward M Martin wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I would suggest to you all, IBM LAWYERS are now watch everyone
> involved with this Hercules conversation.
>
> I can say that, 1) it is illegal to run z/VM (pick a version)
> under Hercules, 2) they do not like it, and
>>> On 7/28/2009 at 6:03 PM, Graeme Moss wrote:
> We are licensed to run z/VM 5.x on our z9. I do not believe there is a
> restriction that it must be the host system in a lpar thus running lpar ->
> vm -> linux -> hercules -> vm is quite legal. I am trying to asertain should
> I bother going
Sunny,
CSE itself is not a product. It’s part of z/VM. Chapter 10 of CP Planning and
Administration describes the requirements and capabilities of CSE. RSCS is
required if you’re using DirMaint to maintain a single source directory for the
cluster, and you don’t enable cross-system SPOOL. P
I did reseach. But can't figure out where we can get it.
q product on z/Vm. I only see 5VMRSC30 disable.
Does CSE have to be purchused ?
Thanks!
Sunny Hu
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confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure
Somebody else asked about SHOW and I wanted to make sure I pointed him to the
right place.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:23 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSE
You can create a storage group 3, move your filespaces to it with
FILESERV MOVEUSER, then disable storage group 2 with FILEPOOL DISABLE
GROUP 2 EXCLUSIVE DETACH. You can then replace the old storage group 2
minidisks with 1-cylinder minidisks. This isn't completely transparent,
because FILESERV i
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
> Is the version of SHOW on Fran Hensler's Packages page the current version
> or is there a more recent one?
That's it. Are you just checking, or do you need something?
I thought SFS used standard CMS mindisks with a single mode 6 file on them.
If so, just create a new minidisk that has at least the same amount of 4k
blocks and copy the CMS file to the new minidisk. Then swap the directory
entries. Note that this is a physical copy and can't be used for expan
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Rob van der Heij
> Sent: 28 July 2009 22:26
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 and Hercules on Z9
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Mark Post wrote:
> On 7
We are licensed to run z/VM 5.x on our z9. I do not believe there is a
restriction that it must be the host system in a lpar thus running lpar ->
vm -> linux -> hercules -> vm is quite legal. I am trying to asertain should
I bother going to our procurment people to ask them to talk to IBM about
I don't think IBM would see you a new license for z/VM 6.1 on a z9, but if you
have an existing z/VM version 5 license with Subscription and Support, you're
entitled to version upgrades at no extra charge. Read the fine print in your
license agreement. You shouldn't expect support for z/VM 6.1
You would undoubtedly need to regenerate the file pool to change disk types
instead of simply formatting the disks.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Sterling James
Sent: Tuesday, July 2
But I think that's the real problem here, you can not license z/VM 6.1
on a z9 processor, so in effect you would be running unlicensed software
(z/VM 6.1) on an unsupported system (z9->Linux->Hercules->z/VM 6.1).
And, as Rob has pointed out, performance would in all likelihood be
perfectly hor
On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Edward M Martin wrote:
I can say that, 1) it is illegal to run z/VM (pick a version)
under Hercules, 2) they do not like it, and 3) they do not have any
sense of humor.
Perfectly fine to run it under Hercules on the processor z/VM is
licensed to.
Adam
Hello Everyone,
I would suggest to you all, IBM LAWYERS are now watch everyone
involved with this Hercules conversation.
I can say that, 1) it is illegal to run z/VM (pick a version)
under Hercules, 2) they do not like it, and 3) they do not have any
sense of humor.
Hone
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Mark Post wrote:
On 7/28/2009 at 5:03 PM, Graeme Moss wrote:
> -snip-
>> Questions
>> 1/ Do you think z/VM 6.1 could be installed under Hercules under Linux on a
>> z9 ?
>
> Most likely it would work.
Re-reading the original question, it appears that OP is
Hello,
After reading the manual, it looks as if you want to change the storage
group 2 + minidisk to different physical devices or (FBA to ECKD), The
process is back it up, yank out the old, replace with the new, format it,
and then restore. I did not see a less of a slash-and-bum method like a
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Graeme Moss
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: z/VM 6.1 and Hercules on Z9
>
> The company I work for is very tight with money (eg they
>>> On 7/28/2009 at 5:03 PM, Graeme Moss wrote:
-snip-
> Questions
> 1/ Do you think z/VM 6.1 could be installed under Hercules under Linux on a
> z9 ?
Most likely it would work.
> 2/ Do you think IBM would allow it since it is not production?
Absolutely not. If someone from IBM finds out,
The company I work for is very tight with money (eg they don't pay me what I
would like to receive) and the section I work for (Software Factory) only
gets hand-me-down mainframes. I can see the situation arising where our
clients who are on a z10 will want z/VM 6.1 but the Software Factory only
While z/OS is a licensed product (and probably so is OS/390 and MVS/ESA),
check the following page for possible legal alternatives:
http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/
I'm not an attorney (especially not an IBM attorney), and thus cannot
offer legal advice - so note the use of the word "possible".
On Tuesday, 07/28/2009 at 02:59 EDT, Sergio Lima
wrote:
> All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
> How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules
> emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.
It's more complicated than that, Sergio. Two p
Is the version of SHOW on Fran Hensler's Packages page the current version or
is there a more recent one?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Sergio,
Telling us that you run this lab environment under Hercules provides
significant new information, information that might have been helpful to
know (or perhaps not) right from the first request for help. Still,
anything you can contribute as general knowledge should always be
appreciat
We have been getting the messages
17:16:49 DTCSTM025I Telnet server: Conn 100: SendOutData (StMaster) calls
StKillConn in otherwise clause.
17:16:49 DTCSTM028I Cannot send data
17:16:49 DTCSTM126I Telnet server: Conn 100: StKillConn- TcpClose failed: No
such connection
They appear to be assoc
Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, and Linux390 for those
who are interested in technical training for System z,
z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE, and Linux on System z.
The next IBM conference for System z, IBM System z Expo,
is open for enrollment and in case you didn't see an e-mail
about it, there is an early
Hello Mr. Mike,
All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules
emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.
How, with the ZOS19 version, the system is up normally for us is enough.
But, We will continue
Hello Mr. Mike,
All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules
emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.
How, with the ZOS19 version, the system is up normally for us is enough.
But, We will con
Can cache be turned off for a volume on the DS6800?
I don't think so. But I would like to confirm that.
Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting
Thanks, Robert!
I do love to see the code.
And I try to understand what is going on between z/VM and linux.
Any books?
RPN01
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Hi Folks,
Does anyone know of an SFS command to query the actual utilization of
the CONTROL disk so we can plan to increase the size of it if necessary?
QUERY FILEPOOL CATALOG and MINIDISK sure don't show utilization (just
TOTAL allocated 512 blocks, not in use/free or the like).
-Mike
I have not yet implemented CSE to protect our linuxes from being started
on two different LPARs. I would be interested in getting a copy of your
Janus code.
Thanks for your assistance.
/Tom Kern
RPN01 wrote:
> The best solution for your problem is to couple the two systems with
> CSE, so that th
The best solution for your problem is to couple the two systems with CSE, so
that they¹ll know what the other is doing.
Before we implemented CSE, we created a service we called Janus, which we
ran in the profile of each Linux server during the CMS startup. The purpose
was to look up which system
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