Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Kris Buelens
And, if you don't want to see the SAPL panel and have to enter CONS=9 and press PF10, make it: /* */ Trace O Address COMMAND nl=15x CP SET RUN ON CP TERM CONMODE 3270nl||, IPL 06F8 CLEAR LOADPARM CONS0009 Exit 2010/10/5 Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com I

Backing off a PTF

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Garment
Hi List, A first post from someone who's come back to z/VM after 23 years on the dark side! Once a PTF has been PUT2PROD is there a way to back off (remove from prod) that PTF via VMSES - or do I have to restore the system from the backup I took before applying service? I'm hoping there is some

VLAN and IPV6 and z/OS confusion

2010-10-06 Thread Crispin Hugo
I am trying to understand if what I propose is possible: I want a VLAN under z/VM 5.4 to support IPV for 8-9 z/OS systems that will need access to some PC's running IPV6 connected to our core switch. I believe I can do this with CP DEFINE LAN M4PVLAN TYPE QDIO IP And the following in each

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread Colin Allinson
Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote: Colin, a really good performance monitor that kept full history data would have been of great assistance. Barton, As you know, we do have a good performance monitor. It is just that, unfortunately for you, it is not the one that you

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Colin, can you say what the workload is? z/TPF guests, VPARS, Linux, CMS? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Colin Allinson Sent: Wed 10/6/2010 7:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Strange performance problem Barton Robinson

Re: Backing off a PTF

2010-10-06 Thread Kris Buelens
There is a VMFREM command. I never had to use it. VMFSETUP ZVM xxx VMFREM PP ZVM xxx ( PTF ppp VMFBLD PPF ZVM xxx (QUERYto see what has to be rebuild VMFBLD PPF ZVM xx (SERVIVED to rebuild what was changed I don't know however if PUT2PROD will help you to place the rebuilt items in

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread Colin Allinson
Quay, Jonathan (IHG) jonathan.q...@ihg.com wrote :- Colin, can you say what the workload is? z/TPF guests, VPARS, Linux, CMS? It is a mixed TPF(4.2 - not Z/TPF) guests / VPARS / CMS workload. Naturally, TPF guests are the heaviest users. I have seen this sort of problem before when we have

Re: Backing off a PTF

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Garment
Thanks Kris, I'll get into the relevant manuals now that I've got starting point. Regards, Paul Garment Global z/OS Connectivity Global z/OS Core Engineering Ground Floor - B3 Block 10 - Radbroke Hall Knutsford, Cheshire WA16 9EU Mail Van 49 Tel: 0044 (0)1565-614429

Re: OpenExtensions return code 1127

2010-10-06 Thread Alain Benveniste
Alan You are right. I didn't think to find this option in the openvm mount command... Just one other thing : I have a file on a tape i write on a disk to ftp it in binary to windows. I removed this previous step to directly do something like this : pipe tape ! bfs a.bin Unfortunately I can't

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Hello, One situation I had was SMTP caught in a tight loop after a spool full condition. In that case, SMTP was looping on CPU 00 giving almost 100% CPU busy on CPU 00. The other CPUs were normally busy. Hope this helps. Michel Beaulieu Montreal, Canada |*| Date: Wed, 6 Oct

TCP/IP QOS Setting

2010-10-06 Thread Billy Bingham
All, Is there a setting in TCP/IP that would set/limit the QOS. Individual says they are getting slow QOS on an FTP and they would like a definitive answer that there is no TCP/IP setting that would limit this. Unfortunately, the VM is old... VM/ESA 2.3 Thanks, Billy

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread zMan
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Michel Beaulieu beaulieumic...@live.ca wrote: One situation I had was SMTP caught in a tight loop after a spool full condition. In that case, SMTP was looping on CPU 00 giving almost 100% CPU busy on CPU 00. The other CPUs were normally busy. I hope you called

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
FWIW, I do not know if IBM ever fixed it, but TPF (formerly ACP) had no storage key protection between tasks, workloads, and it was very simple, even common, for one task to step on another. If that is still the case, TPF would be the first place I would look for any strangeness. Colin

Re: TCP/IP QOS Setting

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Walter
Sort of a broad range of targets here. Could you tell us a little more about: 1) Have they tried FTP of the same file from a different system through the same network to the target system? If that one is slow too, then don;t bother trying to diagnose a VM/ESA 2.3 problem.1) 2) from what

Re: Strange performance problem

2010-10-06 Thread Colin Allinson
Michel - That (SMTP) is one I had not thought of - unfortunately not the culprit in this case. George - Yes, TPF is fast but stupid. However, these are pre-production TPF regions so are fairly stable. They do fall over and do strange things from time to time but we have a specific coverage

Re: TCP/IP QOS Setting

2010-10-06 Thread Billy Bingham
The FTP is from VM/ESA to an AIX server and the VM side is about the only thing the individual has direct control over. I just wanted to know that there is no setting on VM TCP/IP that would limit QoS for an FTP. Billy On 6 Oct 2010 at 9:06, Mike Walter wrote: Sort of a broad range of

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
I IPLed L2 COLD, because I did not have the extra SPOOL volumes yet to come up FORCE. So I do not have the SDF. I suppose I could SPXTAPE DUMP them from L1, except I do not have any tape. Can I redirect SPXTAPE to disk to port the SDF to L2?. Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov Sent

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
SPXTAPE only supports tape. You could use DCSSBKUP and DCSSRSAV for some of the SDF's, but not all. There are past discussions in the archives that discuss the general issue. There are references to pipes and/or 3rd party products that may also help. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 6 Oct 2010

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread RPN01
I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape backups. We no longer have any tape drives, real or virtual, attached to the systems, so

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, George. Unfortunately SPXTAPE only supports tape as an output device. The IBM supplied SDF files (CMS, GCS, SCEE, NLSAMEGN, etc.) can be regenerated using VM/SES tools and procedures. As Brian mentioned you could also use the DCSSBKUP /DCSSRSAV utilities as well. You could also grab a copy

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
I don't want to come across as bragging, but there is the SFB spool file backup/restore utility available now. It's: 1) free 2) backs up and restores SDF file to/from CMS files 3) can handle NSS as well as DCSS, IMG, RDR/PRT/PUN, NLS, SDFs 4) For RDR/PRT/PUN files, it groups all the UR spool files

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Dave. This is just what I need. Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 12:03 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
George, have a go at it and let me know what you thinkand please pay close attention to the restrictions and limitations mentioned in the doc file. Have a good one. On 10/06/2010 11:05 AM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: tyvm, Dave. This is just what I need. Dave Jones

Re: How DIRMAINT Work ?

2010-10-06 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello List, I have a lot to thank you all for your support on this issue. Really, you guys are the best, We believe that now , own walk with the legs. Thanks again for all, and Best Regards. Sergio Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:43:04 +0200 From: kris.buel...@gmail.com Subject:

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:42:53 -0500 From: nix.rob...@mayo.edu Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
It would be nice if z/VM had a virtual tape server that would intercept tape requests and store them on CMS minidisk and to retrieve them as well. This could be used for more than just SPXTAPE. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Mixed Page and Performance

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
I currently have a mod 3 and a mod 9 Page Pack at L1. Brian suggests using this maintenance upgrade as an opportunity to eliminate the mixed PAGE Packs at L1. My Storage Group is balking at the idea of giving me another mod 9 for paging. Will I impact performance if I replace my 2nd mod 9

Re: Mixed Page and Performance

2010-10-06 Thread Scott Rohling
I don't think you'll impact performance negatively, no -- BUT - you will be cutting your paging space in half.. so you will not be able to support as high a virtual to real ratio as you could now.The current numbers look 'ok' - and your paging would be at about 30% or after you change to a

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 12:56 EDT, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Is VSSI an IBM business partner? They already have a virtual tape on minidisk product. There are others I'm sure. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:42 PM To:

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 02:50 EDT, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) jonathan.q...@ihg.com wrote: Is VSSI an IBM business partner? They already have a virtual tape on minidisk product. There are others I'm sure. VSSI is an ISV. IBM Business Partners are people who sell you IBM-branded solutions.

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Dave, I have downloaded SFB.VMARC. Is this a standard FTP FIXED BIN 1024 upload? I do not see the doc you mentioned. Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 12:16 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
George, VMARC files should be uploaded to VM binary mode, recfm F, lrecl 80. To unpack the VMARC file, you'll need the VMARC module. The doc I mentioned is in the VMARC file, as well. Let me know if you have any more problems. On 10/06/2010 02:12 PM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: Dave, I have

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
Frank, while I think having a simple virtual tape server for CNMS is a good idea, it wouldn't solve our problems with SPXTAPE; it does not use the normal CMS tape i/o routines to read/write tape. I believe it constructs it's own tape CCWs and bypasses all of CMS tape handling. On 10/06/2010 12:24

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-10-06 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello. Sorry about delay my response. How can I see what volumes of tape are on our drive ? The operator said that put there 4 volumes, so We think know the name of volumes to give / test the MOUNT command. Thanks, Sergio Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:04:16 -0500 From:

simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Tom Huegel
This is so simple, but I am a little crossed eyed today. Shouldn't I see the RC or error msg in 'C C A? pipe (endchar ?) cp v dasd | a: b b a ? a: | c c a I don't get anything there.

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
And, the VSE side of IBM already has most of the code writtenVSE/VTAPE. The IP flavor, should work under VM with only minor changes. The VSAM flavor, well since the VM side sun setted VSE/VSAM, and a CMS minidisk is limited to the size of a pack, there might be a lot more work in

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Walter
If they are Standard Label tapes, then: TAPE DVOL1 - for Display VOL1 There are other ways, too. Mike Walter Aon Hewitt (Sent from the wee keyboard of a Blackberry.) - Original Message - From: Sergio Lima [sergiovm...@hotmail.com] Sent: 10/06/2010 10:44 PM ZE3 To:

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
Try this instead, Tom: 'PIPE (end ?)', '| a: cp v dasd' , /* incorrect format for CP command, btw */ ' b b a', '?', 'a:', '| c c a' On 10/06/2010 02:47 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: This is so simple, but I am a little crossed eyed today. Shouldn't I see the RC or error msg in 'C C A? pipe

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:34:03 -0500 From: d...@vsoft-software.com Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Frank, while I think having a simple virtual tape server for CNMS is a good idea, it wouldn't solve our problems with SPXTAPE; it does not use the normal CMS tape

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
pipe (endchar ?) cp v dasd | a: b b a ? a: | c c a Ready(1); T=0.01/0.01 14:58:35 What are you trying to accomplish? Two files with the same content (the output from 'CP Q DASD')? You have nothing feeding stream a:. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Dave, Do you know where I can find the VMARC module? Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 03:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
This (tested) version does what you want: pipe (endchar ?) literal v dasd | a: cp | b b a ? a: | c c a The file c c a contains a single line with the RC value. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:47:52 -0700, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: This is so simple, but I am a little

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Pace
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:04 PM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Dave, Do you know where I can find the VMARC module? *Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Tom Huegel
Perfect Brian that is excatally what I was looking for. Thanks On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.govwrote: This (tested) version does what you want: pipe (endchar ?) literal v dasd | a: cp | b b a ? a: | c c a The file c c a contains a single line with the

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Hughes, Jim
When I add a secondary output to the CP stage, I get: PIPCOM112E Excessive options q v dasd. PIPSCA003I ... Issued from stage 1 of pipeline 1. PIPSCA001I ... Running cp q v dasd. Notice the pipeline is issuing CP Q V DASD Would someone share their results when CP has a secondary output

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
pipe (endchar ?) literal v dasd | a: cp | b b a ? a: | SPEC /RC=/ 1 1-* N | CONSOLE RC=1 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:18 PM To:

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Was this more what you were looking for? PIPE (ENDCHAR ?) LITERAL v dasd | a: CP | b b a ? a: | SPEC /RC=/ 1 PAD 0 1-* NW.3 RIGHT| CONSOLE RC= 001 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Hughes,

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Hughes, Jim
Where are the clues indicating a secondary stream is not allowed if the command is specified as part of the cp stage? Be gentle. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-10-06 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Mike, The HELP from DFSMSRM show this : DFSMSRM MENUMenu Help Information l (c) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993 DFSMS/VM REMOVABLE MEDIA

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Gillis, Mark
From help pipe cp: string is a command passed to CP for execution. The string operand cannot be specified if the secondary output stream of the CP stage is connected; in that case, the CP stage issues only the commands that it reads from its primary input stream. Mark

Re: simplest little pipe

2010-10-06 Thread Hughes, Jim
Thanks Mark. I've never issued HELP PIPE let alone HELP PIPE CP. I use PIPE HELP or PIPE AHELP when assistance is required. You learn new stuff everyday. Best regards, Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM

Re: TCP/IP QOS Setting

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 09:11 EDT, Billy Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net wrote: All, Is there a setting in TCP/IP that would set/limit the QOS. Individual says they are getting slow QOS on an FTP and they would like a definitive answer that there is no TCP/IP setting that

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread David Boyes
There is a requirement for PIPE support for SPXTAPE, similar to what was added to DDR. IBM closed it SUGG, IIRC. I suggest many of you submit requirements or ask me to do so again. I really, really want to be able to do SPXTAPE in a synchronous version to LABELED TAPE Or send the output

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-10-06 Thread Mack Howard
You can also use the RMS QUERY command to get a list of the volumes in the library: DFSMSRM Q LIB INV ALL On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Mike, The HELP from DFSMSRM show this : DFSMSRM MENUMenu Help Information

VM Monitor data processing

2010-10-06 Thread Ackerman, Derek
Is anyone transmitting to an MVS host the VM Monitor data to be processed by MXG/SAS programs? Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc (206) 432-9737 || C: (206) 225-3585 || derek.acker...@infocrossing.com  Please consider the environment before

Re: VM Monitor data processing

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Walter
I can't recall if ours goes into MXG/SAS or MICS. That's the dark side of the force. But we do write it to SL tape each night (366 GDG's). Mike Walter Aon Hewitt The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com Sent by: The

Re: VM Monitor data processing

2010-10-06 Thread Sterling James
Not to mislead anyone, we ftp the output of monwrite to a zOS host to be processed. Thx - Please consider the environment before printing this email and any attachments. This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to

Re: VM Monitor data processing

2010-10-06 Thread Barton Robinson
Ouch. Pretty costly to collect raw data, ship it to z/os and process it there. There are lots of installations that take the zVPS (Velocity Performance Suite) data and ship it to z/os from vm, and MXG supports it direct. Probably 1 percent in size. Other installations take our MICS file