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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Dale R. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:49 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: How to determine SYSRES
I have a local mod to CP that I originally got from
Hi Richard,
We have all EMC DASD and have a very nice, albeit slightly convoluted
process. We have 4 hours to get our TPF system to norm. VM comes up
during that time. If you want to chat offline, let me know. :-)
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Is there a way to prevent the Level 1 operator console screen from
entering MORE or HOLDING state so that the IPL will continue
uninterupted by operator intervention?
SET RUN ON will not.
TERM HOLD OFF MORE 0 0
2010/11/11 George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com
Is there a way to prevent the Level 1 operator console screen from entering
MORE or HOLDING state so that the IPL will continue uninterupted by
operator intervention?
SET RUN ON will not.
--
Kris
On Thursday, 11/11/2010 at 10:43 EST, George Henke/NYLIC
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
Is there a way to prevent the Level 1 operator console screen from
entering
MORE or HOLDING state so that the IPL will continue uninterupted by
operator intervention?
SET RUN ON will not.
TERM
ty, Kris and Alan, but what happens when the IPL prompts for Change
Date/Time?
Can the prompt be surpressed?
Also, what is the best way to issue the TERM command?
Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
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11/11/2010 10:47 AM
Please
In the PROFILE EXEC of OPERATOR
To avoid the date/time prompt: code AUTO_IPL WARM in SYSTEM CONFIG
2010/11/11 George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com
ty, Kris and Alan, but what happens when the IPL prompts for Change
Date/Time?
Can the prompt be surpressed?
Also, what is the
In the VM SYSTEM CONFIG file you can enable the auto Warm IPL parameter and if
the system was properly shut down then it will start automatically you may need
to clear the screen once or twice until the TERM MORE 0 0 HOLD OFF takes affect
Larry Davis
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
Hi, George.
To get CP to automatically IPL with no operator prompts for what kind of
IPL to do and to set the date and time, add the following to the
FEATURES statement in the production SYSTEM CONFIG file:
ENABle AUTO_WARM_IPL,
To have the TERM MORE 0 0 and TERM HOLD OFF commands
Christy,
I definitely would like to chat off list.
BTW, whatever was in the box below didn't make it through the list.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Christy Brogan
Sent: Thursday,
My motto is to never use two commands when one will do. The HOLD OFF and
MORE 0 0 can both be entered in a single command. If doing it from OPERATOR's
PROFILE EXEC and you have included an address command statement, then you
need to include CP - CP TERM MORE 0 0 HOLD OFF The order of the
We also have all EMC dasd. To guard against application faux pas that
are not immediately discovered, we maintain 3 copies of TPF at 8 hour
intervals (we can also bring home our offsite copies, which you need to
be able do when a real disaster is over). For DR testing, we snap off
point-in-time
VM is my main concern, we already have multiple copies of TPF at different
centers. The TPF folks have their own DR requirements, including no complete
network outage. We are concerned with the ability to update source and test
the updates, which requires both VM and Linux, and to run
On Thursday, 11/11/2010 at 11:27 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
wrote:
My motto is to never use two commands when one will do. The HOLD OFF
and
MORE 0 0 can both be entered in a single command.
Feh. :-) My motto is to never use one command where two will do. Command
shortcuts are for
That is not a command shortcut, it is a documented, supported syntax.
Abbreviations are short cuts, putting more than one parameter on a command, if
documented as being correct, is not. If you want to consider that as being a
shortcut, then vow to give up using VMLINK or NAMES files except for
I see no mention of the word 'shortcut' in Alan's post. Just a statement
that issuing one 'system' request at a time is best.
But I agree that:
- 'system request' is ambiguous
- If the command supports multiple options - there is absolutely nothing
wrong with using multiple options on a single
Command shortcuts are for humans, not machines. You need to read a little
more carefully (instead of scanning like I do :-) )
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Of Scott Rohling
Sent:
What would be the proper method of automating the shutdown of EREP? I have
been using the following for quite some time, but lately EREP is hanging with a
VM READ. Any suggestions?
ShutdownEREP:
'SET SECUSER EREP *'
Sleep 01 sec
'CP SEND EREP #CP EXT'
If you can't snap off a copy what are you going to do during a test?
Stop replicating? Kind of defeats the purpose. Anyway, we've never had
a problem with the vm or linux filesystems. A lost inode here or there,
but that is to be expected.
From: The IBM
I've written a little more intelligent method of handling this, using this pipe:
SecUser_Cmd: Procedure expose !. StarMsg. VMMsg. StarMsg VMMsg
Parse arg User,Cmd,Stopper
If arg()3 then
How do you get rid of, or renumber, sequence numbers in the DIRECTORY
outside of DIRMAINT.
I get sequence# errors when I move things around and do DIRECTXA with the
(EDIT option.
directxa vmuvm direct a (edit
z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 5 RELEASE 4.0
AUTOLOG AUTOLOG1
I don't think DIRECTXA is complaining about the sequence numbers one could
code beyond col 72.
I merely think it is that the AUTOLOG, ACCOUNT, MACHINE and OPTION records
follows a device record.
For a given user, firts code the non-device statements (like ACCOUNT), then
devices (line CONSOLE,
Right, ty, Kris.
I had replaced, inplace, the contents of the PROFILE IBMDFLT to add PARM
AUTOCR to I CMS and it did not like the order.
Everything is good now.
Love that (EDIT option when updating the DIRECTORY outside DIRMAINT.
directxa vmuvm direct a (edit
z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION
Hi, George.
DIRECTXA isn't complaining about sequence *numbers* being out of order
in the VMUVM DIRECT file, it's complaining that some of the directory
control statements for userid OPERATOR are not in the proper order. For
example, the LINK statement must follow any general statements
Yikes - you're right. mea culpa
And I thought I had read it carefully... scary
Scott Rohling
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote:
Command shortcuts are for humans, not machines. You need to read a
little more carefully (instead of scanning like I do :-)
Yes, ty, Dave:
I had updated, in place, the PROFILE contents of IBMDFLT to add the AUTOCR
parm you recommended for the automated IPL and while DIRECTXA does not
mind PROFILE up ahead of certain statements, it certainly did have problem
with its contents being there.
Too many DIRECTXA's
When VM is using an IODF and MVS is on the box doesn't the changes show up in
VM when the IODF is activated in HCD?
I though the Dynamic commands in VM only needed to happen if you are using an
IOCDS and IOCP to maintain the HW.
When the Hardware Configuration(HAS) matches the loaded IOCDS and
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Q TERM
and see if the more 0 0 is in fact being set.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, George Henke/NYLIC
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
Everything looks good except for 'MORE processing.
Although the OPERATOR screen does not got to HOLD, it waits the default
50 seconds
What does 'Q TERM' show?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Streamlining the
George, I don't know why the console is behaving this way, but since you
are IPL-ing CMS on OPERATOR, you can put a couple of CMS CLRSCRN
commands in the PROFILE EXEC at the appropriate places and see if that
doesn't get what you want.
The SET RUN ON command has nothing to do with how the console
You should see something like this.
q term
LINEND # , LINEDEL OFF, CHARDEL OFF, ESCAPE , TABCHAR OFF
LINESIZE 140, ATTN OFF, APL OFF, TEXT OFF, MODE VM, HILIGHT OFF
CONMODE 3215, BREAKIN IMMED , BRKKEY PA1 , SCRNSAVE OFF
AUTOCR ON , *MORE 000 000, HOLD OFF* , TIMESTAMP OFF, SYS3270 OFF
q term
16:09:56 LINEND # , LINEDEL ¢ , CHARDEL @ , ESCAPE , TABCHAR ]
16:09:56 LINESIZE 080, ATTN OFF, APL OFF, TEXT OFF, MODE VM, HILIGHT OFF
16:09:56 CONMODE 3215, BREAKIN IMMED , BRKKEY PA1 , SCRNSAVE OFF
16:09:56 AUTOCR ON , MORE 000 000, HOLD OFF, TIMESTAMP CP , SYS3270 OFF
I do:
q term
16:09:56 LINEND # , LINEDEL ¢ , CHARDEL @ , ESCAPE , TABCHAR ]
16:09:56 LINESIZE 080, ATTN OFF, APL OFF, TEXT OFF, MODE VM, HILIGHT OFF
16:09:56 CONMODE 3215, BREAKIN IMMED , BRKKEY PA1 , SCRNSAVE OFF
16:09:56 AUTOCR ON , MORE 000 000, HOLD OFF, TIMESTAMP CP , SYS3270
Is your second level VM system using a 3270 console? Or, is it using the
HMC linemode console, emulated by the first level host (aka SYSC)
(If you don't know, start the second level system like this:
Q V CONSnote the address, often 0009 is used
SYSTEM RESET
TERM CONMODE 3270
IPL
I hope your times are EST now. The rest of the country is now on Standard time.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela
Christina on a blue-sky day in Endicott
Sent: Thursday, November
For 2d Level setup I enter:
sys clear
term conmode 3270
set mach esa
i 125b clear
Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
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11/11/2010 04:15 PM
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Ok, so you're really doing a proof of concept of your dasd replication
solution. Obviously, once in production one doesn't want to stop
replicating just to do a test, unless you don't care how stale your DR
data gets. So once the concept is proved, you'll have to come up with
procedures to do
Well, George, it's set the way you want it, at that moment in time.
But that's only set once the OPERATOR virtual machine has been constructed
in compliance with the CP Directory statements defining its parameters, it
has logged on, IPLed CMS, and run through the PROFILE EXEC through the
That explains it Mike.
All these instances were before the PROFILE EXEC started which kinda
defeats the purpose.
I will put the commands in the DIRECTORY with the hope that it will kick
in earlier, before the PROFILE EXEC starts.
Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com
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Still no definitive answer
By default, SYSC is the last entry in the list of operator consoles in
SYSTEM CONFIG. This means that when CP doesn't find a 3270 console from the
list op operator consoles, it uses SYSC.
In second level, it means line mode emulated by the first level VM system.
And
We will be required to do a complete DR test once per year. Our VTAPE is 48
3390-03 volumes. The usage is in the range of 40-80% with an occasional foray
into the 90+% RANGE.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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ty, Kris:
Have to run to renew my drivers license but I will give it a shot
tomorrow.
It makes sense.
Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
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11/11/2010 04:41 PM
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On Thursday, 11/11/2010 at 12:35 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
wrote:
That is not a command shortcut, it is a documented, supported syntax.
Abbreviations are short cuts, putting more than one parameter on a
command, if
documented as being correct, is not. If you want to consider that
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