Re: CP DIAL question

2009-06-01 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Thanks Michael! Much nicer, more complete and elegant than what I threw together and shamelessly posted last week. And it did work right out of the box! Mark Bodenstein (m...@cornell.edu) Cornell University At 01:49 PM 5/28/2009, Michael Coffin wrote: Drop the .txt from each of the two

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-06-01 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Thanks Rob, for the explanation. I was much more narrow in my focus, in fact just needing to barf a message. But even in that narrow case there is the possibility of another DIAL showing up while barfing to the previous one, and thus being missed. I agree that an in-pipe tool for this would

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-06-01 Thread Michael Coffin
as-is). -Mike -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Bodenstein Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP DIAL question Thanks Michael! Much nicer, more complete and elegant than what I

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Hughes, Jim
==Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:01 PM ==To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==Subject: Re: CP DIAL question == ==Changing the MSG10 screen while we still have VM VTAM is a good idea. ==AND ==we want something for afterwards that will direct users to helpful ==information. == ==Thanks to everyone for your

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Bodenstein
We have many more people that logon to VM rather than DIAL to MVS, and we wouldn't want to confuse them, but this is an interesting idea. Thanks! Mark Bodenstein (m...@cornell.edu) Cornell University At 05:01 PM 5/27/2009, Jim Hughes wrote: Why not just change the ZVM Logo screen to contain

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Bodenstein
I previously looked at PIPE FULLSCREEN but was a little daunted at having to create a 3270 data stream. (I was also hoping that somebody had something coded already that we could use.) I just took another look and there's a sample in HELP PIPE FULLSCREEN that does what we want. We would

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: I previously looked at PIPE FULLSCREEN but was a little daunted at having to create a 3270 data stream.  (I was also hoping that somebody had something coded already that we could use.)  I just took another look and

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Huegel, Thomas
DIAL question On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: I previously looked at PIPE FULLSCREEN but was a little daunted at having to create a 3270 data stream.  (I was also hoping that somebody had something coded already that we could use.)  I just took another

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Rob, I coded this using WAKEUP as suggested by Harry Williams and have a working prototype which I've included below. It's not quite bullet-proof (if a DIAL happens while processing another DIAL this won't handle it) but it's a start. I don't understand what you mean by prevents the

FW: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Coffin
...@mccci.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:50 PM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: RE: CP DIAL question Drop the .txt from each of the two attached files, double check the EXEC to make sure the 3270 NOT character translated OK and put them on the 191(A) disk of any virtual machine

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Coffin
: Re: CP DIAL question On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: I previously looked at PIPE FULLSCREEN but was a little daunted at having to create a 3270 data stream.  (I was also hoping that somebody had something coded already that we could use.)  I just took

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: I don't understand what you mean by prevents the pipeline from having an actual conversation with the other terminals dialed-in.  Could you explain? CMS Pipelines is multi-tasking. If you use something external to wait

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Thanks for the tip Richard. That fixed the problem. The file wasn't malformed, just misshaped. :) Mark Bodenstein (m...@cornell.edu) Cornell University At 06:02 PM 5/26/2009, you wrote: On your malformed VMARC file, did you try the pipe file | fblock 80 0 | file trick? I have not needed

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Post
On 5/26/2009 at 6:08 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 05:54 EDT, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: So, why don't you just update the message put out in MSG10 to say what you want? That won't work if he gets rid of VTAM! :-) My reading was that

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-27 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The easiest way of doing this, and perhaps the less costly, is to keep the license for VM/VTAM an extra month or two and use MSG10 to inform them. After that, it's the help desk problem G. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting (RIP Grey Stripe, a great cat and my buddy for, just shy of 19 years)

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Bodenstein
Changing the MSG10 screen while we still have VM VTAM is a good idea. AND we want something for afterwards that will direct users to helpful information. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! Mark Bodenstein (m...@cornell.edu) Cornell University At 01:30 PM 5/27/2009, Tom Duerbusch

CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS. We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into. They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of destination. We would like to be able to allow users to DIAL SNA and

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM.  One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS.  We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into.  They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
Does anyone have any ideas short of just sending all users an email telling them to use telnet instead of SNA? If you have PVM, there is a way to set a notification on an attempt to connect to a host. You could also stand up YVETTE, which has a system message screen. You also might ask Rick

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Bates
and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP DIAL question We are working toward eliminating

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
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Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Daniel Allen
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP DIAL question We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS. We

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP DIAL question We are working toward

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:47 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP DIAL question It's not an MVS guest. MVS runs in it's own lpar. The user that I said users dial into is a VM userid running VM/VTAM

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Coffin
26, 2009 12:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP DIAL question You might want to take a look at z/VM TCPIP SCEXIT program. There are two parts to it,1) SCEXIT ASSEMBLE 2) SCEXIT EXEC ... Most likely you would only have to work with the REXX code in the EXEC .. Take a look and see

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Bodenstein
I work with Jim Bohnsack who asked the original question. Thanks for your suggestion Thomas, but since the DIAL happens (or doesn't happen) after the session is established I'm not sure how SCEXIT would help. I tried to download RXLDEV as mentioned in David Boyes note, but the VMARC file was

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
is not a guest, but is in a different LPAR than won't work. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Bodenstein Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP DIAL question I work with Jim

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Post
On 5/26/2009 at 9:23 AM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM to MVS. We have a userid, SNA, on VM that users DIAL into. They are presented with a MSG 10 screen giving the choices of

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP DIAL question On 5/26/2009 at 9:23 AM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: We are working toward eliminating VM/VTAM. One remaining application is for terminal access from VM

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 05:33 EDT, Mark Bodenstein m...@cornell.edu wrote: Thanks for your suggestion Thomas, but since the DIAL happens (or doesn't happen) after the session is established I'm not sure how SCEXIT would help. I tried to download RXLDEV as mentioned in David Boyes note,

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/26/2009 at 05:54 EDT, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: So, why don't you just update the message put out in MSG10 to say what you want? That won't work if he gets rid of VTAM! :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread David Boyes
So, why don't you just update the message put out in MSG10 to say what you want? Mark Post Because he'd still have to be running VTAM for that to work. The other solutions mentioned allow him to drop VM/VTAM immediately, with no chance of someone working around the message using a manual

Re: CP DIAL question

2009-05-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Coffin Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CP DIAL question Definitely look at the SCEXIT. If you have VM:Secure you can also look into the DIALFAIL LOGMSG and set up a DIAL REJECT rule for userid SNA. :) -Mike -Original Message