Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-21 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:15:59 -0600, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there any way to preserve file date & time when I ftp from one z/ VM to >another z/VM? > = === I wrote code to download files with FTP MGET, display the

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-10 Thread Dave Jones
And for those of you that would like to try out Phil's MAILABLE package, the latest release can be downloaded here: http://www.vsoft-softwre.com/downloads.html I've found it handy on several occasionsenjoy. Phil Smith III wrote: Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As mentioned, you cou

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Feb 10, 2008 11:33 AM, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using a PIPE you can. Look at the NETDATA stage and the INMR123 REXX > stage. I use them in a few EXECs. In my cases the input is either > no resident on disk (e.g. a REXX string to send in a mail) or a subset > of a big file

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-10 Thread Kris Buelens
Using a PIPE you can. Look at the NETDATA stage and the INMR123 REXX stage. I use them in a few EXECs. In my cases the input is either no resident on disk (e.g. a REXX string to send in a mail) or a subset of a big file that has to be sent. By using a PIPE, I don't need to write the data to se

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-09 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 3:49 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, does not SENDFILE need RSCS? If one of the VMs is on IFL then you > need a Special Bid License for RSCS. Too bad the CMS version of SENDFILE doesn't have the option of w

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-09 Thread Phil Smith III
Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As mentioned, you could send it wrapped up in VMARC. >You could also send it wrapped up in a NETDATA envelop. >Considering what SENDFILE/RECEIVE does, which supports >preserving time stamps, that is exactly how it works. Or you could use MAILABLE, which puts

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/08/2008 at 11:56 EST, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering the progress on adding SSL protection to services such as > telnet client, ftp and smtp, I hope you are also progressing on adding > it to the TCPIP services within RSCS like UFT and TCPNJE. Les doesn't have

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Thomas Kern
Considering the progress on adding SSL protection to services such as telnet client, ftp and smtp, I hope you are also progressing on adding it to the TCPIP services within RSCS like UFT and TCPNJE. /Tom Kern Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote: I have a DR exercise the first week of March. After t

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>I have a DR exercise the first week of March. After that I will revisit >the RSCS UFTD configuration. Any hints about encryption capabilities >using RSCS? If you tie it to the full function RSCS product, I might be >able to get my client to pay for that on our IFL. > Sorry, RSCS does not have sup

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Thomas Kern
I have a DR exercise the first week of March. After that I will revisit the RSCS UFTD configuration. Any hints about encryption capabilities using RSCS? If you tie it to the full function RSCS product, I might be able to get my client to pay for that on our IFL. /Tom Kern Les Geer (607-429-35

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>Well, does not SENDFILE need RSCS? If one of the VMs is on IFL then you >need a Special Bid License for RSCS. > No special bid required on z/VM 5.3 using RSCS FL530. As for RSCS UFTD support, if there are problems encountered using this please report them via the IBM support center. Best Regar

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Thomas Kern
I used RSCS's UFT clients, but had trouble with its server mode, so the receiving server is the UFTD code in a separate SVM. The command I use to send a file is: 'EXEC SENDFILE' FN FT FM 'TO' TUSER 'AT 10.0.10.202 ( UFTASYNC NETDATA' The TCPIP DATA file has this entry: UFTSERVERID RSCS The s

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Rick Troth
> Sift/UFT is another node-to-node transfer mechanism > that leaves the object in the target rdr in a NETDATA format > so it can be received with proper recfm/lrecl/datestamp. What Tom said. I don't know the IBM implementation of UFT in VM TCP/IP well, but I believe it does have a client (SENDFILE

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Gary Eheman
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:13:51 +0100, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >But, a VMFPLCD file is RECFM V, can that be binary transferred over >FTP? I used VMFPLCD ages ago, now VMARC as its repository is F80. >The speed by which CMS evolves makes it unlikely that VMARC stops >running soon. S

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI) Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:50 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] FTP - how can I preserve date & time? Well, does not SENDFILE need RSCS? If one of the VMs is on IFL then you need a

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Thomas Kern
I think for z/VM 5.3, full RSCS is not a Special Bid but a plain ordinary priced thingy. Sift/UFT is another node-to-node transfer mechanism that leaves the objec t in the target rdr in a NETDATA format so it can be received with proper recfm/lrecl/datestamp. /Tom Kern On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:4

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread David Boyes
> Well, does not SENDFILE need RSCS? If one of the VMs is on IFL then you > need a Special Bid License for RSCS. SNA wrote a one-link NJE/IP implementation for satellite VM sites that can connect to RSCS or any other TCPNJE implementation elsewhere (assuming IP connectivity on port 175). That wou

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
K.EDU Subject: Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time? Since this is a VM-to-VM transfer, why not use SENDFILE or cross-node Shared File System instead of FTP? Either of those methods will preserve the date and time. Dennis "

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
On Behalf Of Gary Eheman Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:51 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] FTP - how can I preserve date & time? On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:15:59 -0600, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there any way to preserve file date & time when I ftp f

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Sure, MODE B, TYPE E. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time? But, a VMFPLCD file is RECFM V,

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Kris Buelens
But, a VMFPLCD file is RECFM V, can that be binary transferred over FTP? I used VMFPLCD ages ago, now VMARC as its repository is F80. The speed by which CMS evolves makes it unlikely that VMARC stops running soon. 2008/2/8, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Friday, 02/08/2008 at 01:51 EST, G

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/08/2008 at 01:51 EST, Gary Eheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, you may get the old "VMF utilities are just intended for IBM's use" > argument. That would seem weak in the face of an external dependency, > particularly if it works. I forgot all about VMFPLCD. It is a fully

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Gary Eheman
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:15:59 -0600, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there any way to preserve file date & time when I ftp from one z/ VM to >another z/VM? > = === I would not use VMARC since you have to go somewhere to do

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Feb 8, 2008 12:37 PM, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only know of one file transport method which > explicitly supports carrying the time stamp. It ain't FTP. :-( In addition to the one you mean, I also like HTTP... My little pipeline that retrieves packages from the VM download p

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Rick Troth
As mentioned, you could send it wrapped up in VMARC. You could also send it wrapped up in a NETDATA envelop. Considering what SENDFILE/RECEIVE does, which supports preserving time stamps, that is exactly how it works. I only know of one file transport method which explicitly supports carrying the

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 04:52 EST, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Follow-up question: > > I have VMARC working well, but is there any way to decompress the archive > file at the foreign (VM) site using an FTP subcommand? I use the CMS > subcommand to issue local CMS commands, but with

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Follow-up question: I have VMARC working well, but is there any way to decompress the archive file at the foreign (VM) site using an FTP subcommand? I use the CMS subcommand to issue local CMS commands, but without getting into a separa te REXEC procedure, is there any FTP subcommand equivalent t

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread David Boyes
> Does VMARC come as part of VM God knows, it (or something like it) should be, but it isn't. > does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr > om IBM? It isn't an IBM product at all, although they do provide download facilities for it.

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
For a utility to list/view/extract VMARC archives FTP-ed to other platforms in binary see here: http://www.homerow.net/zvm/vma.htm On 08/02/2008, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr > om IBM? >

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ On 08/02/2008, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr > om IBM? >

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr om IBM?

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 11:00 EST, Bob Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any way to preserve file date & time when I ftp from one z/VM to > another z/VM? Not directly, no, though you could use VMARC to package the file into an envelope whose timestamp is irrelevant. Then, when the

FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Is there any way to preserve file date & time when I ftp from one z/V M to another z/VM?