Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-08 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
We have two production VM systems, plus a few others - small DR system, 2nd level test system, 1st level LPAR test system. I always build *one*, and then copy the required parts to other systems. For those things that need to be generated differently, I have local PPF overrides/CNTL files

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-08 Thread David Boyes
That's a good question. Was wondering what all of you with 5 systems do about that. Right now we maintain them individually (it wasn't that long ago that we had 1 system). Now I'm hearing rumblings about maybe adding 2-4 more systems for capacity/availability reasons... If we go from 6

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-07 Thread Alan Ackerman
That's good news. Perhaps it is time to re-examine our staunch opposition to PUT2PROD. Another problem with PUT2PROD that comes to mind is that we don't want to install VM on every system, we want to install it once (actually twice because of VPARS and VTAPE) and then copy it to all the

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Alan wrote: We have 5 primary VM systems and 11 (?) VM guests. Does anyone install VM separately on each of multiple systems? Does even IBM? That's a good question. Was wondering what all of you with 5 systems do about that. Right now we maintain them individually (it wasn't that long ago

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/07/2006 at 11:07 EST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's good news. Perhaps it is time to re-examine our staunch opposition to PUT2PROD. Another problem with PUT2PROD that comes to mind is that we don't want to install VM on every system, we want to install it

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-03 Thread Kris Buelens
I like to know what happens to my systems. So I even never tried PUT2PROD. And just like Brian, I swap MAINT's minidisk addresses 190/193/19E with 490/493/49E. I wish DIRMAINT provided a SWAPMDSK command to swap mdisk addresses, now I need DIRM OFFLINE DIRM FOR MAINT CHV 190 TO

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread David Kreuter
Little routine to rebuild CMS? Without automation what about the tried and true: (ok it's a procedure not a routine) from MAINT: VMFSETUP ZVM CMS (for those too lazy to access the right disk directly...) SAMPNSS CMS IPL 190 CLEAR PARM SAVESYS CMS !! David I reckon I should just code up my own

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread Leland Lucius
Quoting David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Little routine to rebuild CMS? Without automation what about the tried and true: (ok it's a procedure not a routine) from MAINT: VMFSETUP ZVM CMS (for those too lazy to access the right disk directly...) SAMPNSS CMS IPL 190 CLEAR PARM SAVESYS CMS

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread Brian Nielsen
Well, I'm another OT who doesn't use PUT2PROD. First, I see no reason to take on the unneccessary risks associated with PUT2PROD. Second, I like my modified version of the traditional IBM service process even better than the documented traditional IBM service process. Let's take, for

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread George Haddad
Add me to the list of sysprogs who has always installed by hand or at least by homegrown EXECs. Sorry Chuckie. Too many battle scars in the past.

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/02/2006 at 11:47 AST, George Haddad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add me to the list of sysprogs who has always installed by hand or at least by homegrown EXECs. Sorry Chuckie. Too many battle scars in the past. Well, just to show we don't hold a grudge, other people (not you, George,

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-02 Thread Leland Lucius
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:02:19 -0500, Leland Lucius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [But it changed only because someone called and complained.] 59825,379,000 ... so there, get to work. :-)

HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread Leland Lucius
When attempting to rebuild CMS using PUT2PROD SAVECMS, I sporadically receive HCPSEC068E and I can't figure out why. In case it matters, I'm n ot doing this from MAINT. I've setup another user with (what I think to be) appropriate privileges. Any ideas? Thanks, Leland Here's the console

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland Lucius Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 13:48 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS When attempting to rebuild CMS using PUT2PROD SAVECMS, I sporadically receive HCPSEC068E and I can't figure out why

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread David Kreuter
IBM states that you must run PUT2PROD from MAINT. David Leland Lucius wrote: When attempting to rebuild CMS using PUT2PROD SAVECMS, I sporadically receive HCPSEC068E and I can't figure out why. In case it matters, I'm n ot doing this from MAINT. I've setup another user with (what I think to

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread Leland Lucius
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:51:14 -0500, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet you can't get SECUSER. Does your console statement in BLDCMS need to be changed: CONSOLE 009 3215 T MAINT The weird part is that it always succeeds when I run the EXEC connected. It's when the guest is

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread Leland Lucius
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:27 -0400, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] resources.com wrote: IBM states that you must run PUT2PROD from MAINT. But, it'd be a horribly dull world if we always did what IBM told us to d o or not to do. :-) Heck, I never listened to my parents either, why shou ld I

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread David Kreuter
PUT2PROD is, gulp, I'm told by the powers that be (Chuckie included) is the way of the future. Follow the instructions. I know, it's hard. David Leland Lucius wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:27 -0400, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] resources.com wrote: IBM states that you must run

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread David Kreuter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS PUT2PROD is, gulp, I'm told by the powers that be (Chuckie included) is the way of the future. Follow the instructions. I know, it's hard. David Leland Lucius wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:27 -0400, David Kreuter [EMAIL

Re: HCPSEC068E when doing PUT2PROD SAVECMS

2006-06-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/01/2006 at 04:21 EST, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just be careful out there. PUT2PROD on TCPIP will force your TCPIP service machine (and later versions find it even if his name is not TCPIP :( _ ). We continue to refine PUT2PROD to avoid doing Really Annoying