Re: OT: CICS poster (was Poster of computer hardware events?)

2007-11-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/09/2007 at 04:42 EST, Steve Marak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have one of those (somewhere), and even more coincidentally, was > thinking of it for reasons entirely unrelated to this thread just > yesterday. How I came to have it is more ironic than coincidental, given > how litt

OT: CICS poster (was Poster of computer hardware events?)

2007-11-09 Thread Steve Marak
Mark, I have one of those (somewhere), and even more coincidentally, was thinking of it for reasons entirely unrelated to this thread just yesterday. How I came to have it is more ironic than coincidental, given how little I know - or ever knew - about CICS. I've never seen another, although t

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
If we didn't have caching controllers and we were still on the 370 I/O subsystem, would we still be concerned about RPS misses now a days? I think most disk drives have 512K of cache on them. My understanding is that you don't read/write directly to the disk anymore, but to the drive cache. An

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Gregg
riginal Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:48 PM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Poster of computer hardware events? > > > > A buddy asked me: &

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Nov 9, 2007 3:00 PM, Phil Smith III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Don't forget that Marty's note mentioned the word "miss" in conjunction > >with "RPS" > > Right...so an "RPS miss" is when your rock/paper/scissors doesn't work out > for you... We

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Phil Smith III
"Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Don't forget that Marty's note mentioned the word "miss" in conjunction >with "RPS" Right...so an "RPS miss" is when your rock/paper/scissors doesn't work out for you... Back on topic, thanks for the reminiscences; I'll pass it along, see if that ri

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Mark Pace
On Nov 8, 2007 2:40 PM, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marty asked: "*RPS miss (show of hands: who remembers what that was?*)" > > Not being in the office tomorrow, it's Friday a day early for me. So how > 'bout: > > - *R*ock *P*aper *S*cissors > - *R*evolutions *P*er *S*econd > - *R*

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
marty zimelis wrote: Phil, Unless there was something else out there (a poster or whatever), that would have been me doing a riff in my VM Performance classes, first for Amdahl, then for Velocity. Your buddy's time frame is about right (15 years ago). I was attempting to emphasize the impact

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 10:26 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Nevertheless, Performance Toolkit reports Dasd response > time in the 1 ms range vs. the 30 ms. time I was used to in the spinning > Dasd days Oh, the DASD still spins, just a l

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Phil Smith III Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Poster of computer hardware events? A buddy asked me: "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster or something (I know - real specific - it was 15+ years ago) that tried to put the tim

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Nov 8, 2007 8:10 PM, Marty Zimelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ago). I was attempting to emphasize the impact of an RPS miss (show of > hands: who remembers what that was?) on response time. Now that's not so long ago... ;-) From the Linux 2.4 sources: http://lxr.linux.no/source/drivers/s39

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
er 08, 2007 12:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Poster of computer hardware events? Yep. Revolutions Per Second worried about it the middle 80's Radiation Protection Suit wore one in the early 70's Ed Marti

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Edward M. Martin
ing System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Poster of computer hardware events? Marty asked: "RPS miss (show of hands: who remembers what that was?)" Not being in the office tomorrow, it&

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Mike Walter
Marty asked: "RPS miss (show of hands: who remembers what that was?)" Not being in the office tomorrow, it's Friday a day early for me. So how 'bout: - Rock Paper Scissors - Revolutions Per Second - Radiation Protection Suit - "Rps Miss Sure Gold" -- from: www.allbreedpedigree.com/rps+miss+sur

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
Rotational Position Sensing Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Zimelis Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Poster of computer hardware events? Phil

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Marty Zimelis
ng System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:48 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Poster of computer hardware events? > > A buddy asked me: > > "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:48 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Poster of computer hardware events? > > > A buddy as

Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Phil Smith III
A buddy asked me: "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster or something (I know - real specific - it was 15+ years ago) that tried to put the time for computer events into perspective. It started with the quickest instruction (RR) having a baseline of 1 second. It the proceeded t