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They love ISPF.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Yes, Edgar, were are the days. When I started in IBM (1978) I was learned
to use EDIT. After half a day, another SE couldn't beleave they still
learned us EDIT, and he gave me EDGAR. Quite some of my XEDIT PF-key
settings sti
On: Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:29:20PM +0300,Shimon Lebowitz Wrote:
} Besides, we are a *VM* list. Contrary to various OtherSystems(tm),
} we never flame anybody.
Not so, but on this list, the flames are virtual flames. :-)
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Yes, Edgar, were are the days. When I started in IBM (1978) I was learned
to use EDIT. After half a day, another SE couldn't beleave they still
learned us EDIT, and he gave me EDGAR. Quite some of my XEDIT PF-key
settings still do what they did in EDGAR.
But, much later, I saw another collegu
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> To each his own.Being a
On 28 Aug 2006 at 13:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> A light year is an awfully long distance.
>
naaah.. it's less than a third of a parsec.
On: Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:21:24PM -0400,Macioce, Larry Wrote:
} To each his own.Being a VM newbie I still mess with xedit but feel more
} comfortable w ISPF
} Let the flames begin
No flames needed yet. When you get more comfortable with Xedit, you
will light them yourself.
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Subject:Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
To each his own.Being a VM newbie I still mess with xedit but feel more
comfortable w ISPF
Let the flames begin
Mace
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A light year is an awfully
long distance.
Green stripe coding pads and
keypunch operators notwithstanding, the first editor I used was line-mode
editing using a 3066 emulating a 3215. CMS Rele
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Subject: Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
They love ISPF.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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On Monday, 08/28/2006 at 09:58 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Green stripe coding pads and keypunch operators notwithstanding, the
first
> editor I used was line-mode editing using a 3066 emulating a 3215. CMS
Release
> 2 was the OS.
Snow. Uphill. Both ways. Got it. :-
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Edgar was light years ahead of line
editing. But I won't even consider the thought that it was better
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Before XEDIT, ISPF looked really good. Then there
are those (are you reading this, Mike?) who will tell you that Edgar was
the best.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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On 8/28/06, Bates, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, if you go back far enough before XEDIT, X was a perfectly good name
for a quic
They love ISPF.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Shimon
Shimon Lebowitz wrote:
On 28 Aug 2006 at 8:08, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Before XEDIT, ISPF looked really good. Then there are those (are you
reading this, Mike?) who will tell you that Edgar was the best.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
And after XEDIT, ISPF looks really really bad. (Spoken
fr
That was the implication.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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On 28 Aug 2006 at 8:08, Schuh, Richard wrote:
> Before XEDIT, ISPF looked really good. Then there are those (are you
> reading this, Mike?) who will tell you that Edgar was the best.
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
And after XEDIT, ISPF looks really really bad. (Spoken
from a "new to MVS" point of
I certainly preferred Edgar to ISPF. It took me a long time to get away
from having the prefix area on the left side of the screen rather than on
the Edgar right side. I think that I still have an Edgar manual somewhere.
Jim
At 11:08 AM 8/28/2006, you wrote:
Before XEDIT, ISPF looked really
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, August 28, 2006 7:06 AM
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Subject:Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
On 8/28/06, Bates, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, if you go back far enough before XEDIT, X was a perfectly good name
> for a quick test exec. When XEDIT came
On 8/28/06, Bates, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, if you go back far enough before XEDIT, X was a perfectly good name
for a quick test exec. When XEDIT came along, there was an oops or two.
My apologies, on that scale I'm a newbie :-)
Rob
, August 28, 2006 6:47 AM
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Subject: Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who hasn't written a test EXEC called 'X' only to execute it the next time
> they try to get into XEDIT !
On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Who hasn't written a test EXEC called 'X' only to execute it the next time
they try to get into XEDIT !!
Why would you? Don't you have the system alias X for Xedit? I even
have user alias for popular mistyped commands (like RECI
Then, too, there is TERM MODE CP. If set, then the PUR EXEC would not be
executed. Neither would any other CMS command.
This setting would be quite rare for most users.
Richard Corak
Since you determined the user has a PUR EXEC, they could also use CP PUR
to not run their exec.
Dependin
On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 12:15 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It has been so long since I last entered PURGE RDR ALL that I wasn't
aware of
> or did not remember the change, and it was a good one that was long
overdue :-)
I know what you mean. You begin to sweat and get
On: Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:00:51AM -0700,william JANULIN Wrote:
} Yes, thanks again for your help. F.Y.Il the user
} tried it by entering PURGE instead of PUR and it
} worked. Amazing, eh?
Bill,
One of your diagnostic tools for cases where a CP command is doing
things that are unexpected is to
Yes, but a few of them die everyday.
Its a good thing that we have SFPURGER around along
with VMUTIL and its WAKEUP file. One less thing to
worry about.
--- Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 11:36 MST, william JANULIN
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Probably
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> On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 11:36 MST, william JANULIN
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Probably a little of both.
Who hasn't written a test EXEC called 'X' only to
execute it the next time
they try to get into XEDIT !!
On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 11:36 MST, william JANULIN
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably a little of both.
>
> --- "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Jus be sure that the user does not have class D
> > authority before following Alan's advice. Or was
> > Chuckie trying to find o
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Yes, he did that and it worked by entering the full
command instead of the abbreviation.
Thank you,
Bill J.
--- Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 10:13 MST, william JANULIN
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To list;
> > I have a CMS user that is trying to pur
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> On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 10:13 MST, william JANULIN
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To list;
> > I have a CMS user t
On Tuesday, 08/22/2006 at 10:13 MST, william JANULIN
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To list;
> I have a CMS user that is trying to purge his RDR
> files from his RDR queue. He issues the PUR RDR ALL
> command and gets the READY message back but the files
> are not purged.
>
> I end up logging on to
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Subject: Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
Hi Rich,
No, but he has something called PUR EXEC.
So, it would appear that when he entered the
command,
it tries to execue this PUR EXEC instead of the CP
command.
Thanks for the question, I am not sure if O woul
: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:29 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: PUR RDR ALL not working for a user
> >
> >
> > Hi Rich,
> > No, but he has something called PUR EXEC.
> > So, it would appear that when he entered the
> command,
> >
m JANULIN
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>
>
> Hi Rich,
> No, but he has something called PUR EXEC.
> So, it would appear that when he entered the command,
> it tries to execue this
Hi Rich,
No, but he has something called PUR EXEC.
So, it would appear that when he entered the command,
it tries to execue this PUR EXEC instead of the CP
command.
Thanks for the question, I am not sure if O would have
found this.
Thanks again,
Bill J.
--- "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does he have a PURGE EXEC in the search order?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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