That's just because if Alan falls asleep, Chuckie will take control of the
keyboard!
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:12 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure
On Friday, 05/09/2008 at 09:12 EDT, Tim Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the problem is, TUBES really is taking control of port 23. One
of the procedures to setup TUBES telnet, is to take (comment) out the
PORT 23 statement from PROFILE TCPIP. So, there is no way of letting
TCPIP know
On Friday, 05/09/2008 at 12:19 EDT, Les Geer (607-429-3580)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PVM (AKA VM/Pass-Through Facility) is a session manager product
supporting multiple sessions on one terminal. However, it does not
support creation of telnet sessions so does not support SSL.
With z/VM
On Friday, 05/09/2008 at 12:50 EDT, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
PVM also has the downside of not being easily licensable on IFLs at the
moment. The VM guys might be about to do something about that, but at
the moment, getting PVM for an IFL install is a lengthy and somewhat
, May 09, 2008 9:17 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
I don't know one way or the other, but what about IBM's PVM?
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Tim Joyce
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:13 AM
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:22 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
I have heard of the VM pass-through facility, but not familiar with how
it works. I will investigate further. Is anyone using pass-through as a
session manager?
Tim
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From
On May 9, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Huegel, Thomas wrote:
I think the problem is, TUBES really is taking control of port 23. One
of the procedures to setup TUBES telnet, is to take (comment) out the
PORT 23 statement from PROFILE TCPIP. So, there is no way of letting
TCPIP know that port 23 is a SECURE
I have used it and it works fine, as with a lot of IBM's stuff the setup
is a little complicated, but maybe no worse than anyone elses.
What I don't know is if it works with SSL..
I have heard of the VM pass-through facility, but not familiar with how
it works. I will investigate further. Is
I think the problem is, TUBES really is taking control of port 23. One
of the procedures to setup TUBES telnet, is to take (comment) out the
PORT 23 statement from PROFILE TCPIP. So, there is no way of letting
TCPIP know that port 23 is a SECURE port. I think the fact that Macro4
says secure
I have used it and it works fine, as with a lot of IBM's stuff the
setup
is a little complicated, but maybe no worse than anyone elses.
What I don't know is if it works with SSL..
PVM doesn't have any direct IP terminal interface (you have to do the
DIAL PVM hack in the telnet server exit),
Hey Guys,
Well I got my SSLSERV up and started to update my PROFILE TCPIP to add a
secure port to test with, then I remembered our session manager (Macro 4
- TUBES) intercepts port 23 for telnet and uses the port for TUBES. I
found out that TUBES DOES NOT support, nor plan to support, secure
Hi, Tim.
Take a look at these two products.
1) Session (Arty Ecock) (http://ukcc.uky.edu/%7Etools/1998/session.vmarc)
2) YVETTE (Chip Coy) (http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/yvette.vmarc)
They're both free, and I believe will provide session management
functions similar to TUBES,
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Behalf Of Ed Zell
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:13 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
Well I got my SSLSERV up and started to update my PROFILE TCPIP to add
a secure port to test with, then I remembered our session manager
(Macro 4 - TUBES
Looks good .. Thanks Dave!
Tim
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
Hi, Tim.
Take a look at these two products
Hey Ed,
I am using TUBES 4.500E . There is a TUBES setting:
TCP YES
STN3270 23
This has TUBES intercept port 23 from VM TCPIP so if you
telnet to your VM TCPIP stack port 23 you get a TUBES menu!
Tim
Cool Tim, thanks for the info. I am not on TUBES 4.x, so that
is not
Well I got my SSLSERV up and started to update my PROFILE TCPIP to add
a
secure port to test with, then I remembered our session manager (Macro
4
- TUBES) intercepts port 23 for telnet and uses the port for TUBES.
They may not support it in TUBES, but the stack is doing all the work
anyway,
On Monday, 05/05/2008 at 10:35 EDT, Tim Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I to infer from this that Secure telnet is not available with our
current
5.2 release level? Is anyone using secure telnet out there that can
point me
in the right direction?
In z/VM 5.2 you can use SSL with FTP
, May 06, 2008 4:26 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
On Monday, 05/05/2008 at 10:35 EDT, Tim Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am I to infer from this that Secure telnet is not available with our
current
5.2 release level? Is anyone using secure telnet out
On Tuesday, 05/06/2008 at 08:27 EDT, Mrohs, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If your site runs port scans against your z/VM 5.2 SSLSERV, you might
get notes from the network people saying you are running an old 2.0
version of SSL.
LOL. Actually, you're running a new SSLv3/TLSv1 server that
Hey Guys,
We are looking into using secure telnet on our z/VM 5.2 TCP/IP stack.
When looking over info on the VM site, I found the following :
Changes Introduced in TCP/IP Level 530
A new statement, SECURETELNETCLIENT, may now be specified in the TCPIP
DATA file. This statement provides the
Hi, Tim.
I think what your are looking for is the VMSSL server. It can secure
Telnet (TN3270) sessions to your z/VM system quite nicely, and it is
supported on your release of VM. You can read more about it in Chapter
22 of the TCP/IP Planning and Customization Guide.
It is somewhat of a
On May 5, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
Hi, Tim.
I think what your are looking for is the VMSSL server. It can secure
Telnet (TN3270) sessions to your z/VM system quite nicely, and it is
supported on your release of VM. You can read more about it in
Chapter 22 of the TCP/IP
You have server support for SSL-wrapped telnet, via a Linux guest. The
telnet client on VM doesn't gain that support until 5.3. The option you
reference is just what you want the 5.3 client to default - secure or
plaintext telnet. You still need the Linux guest, etc.
, 2008 3:16 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
You have server support for SSL-wrapped telnet, via a Linux guest. The
telnet client on VM doesn't gain that support until 5.3. The option you
reference is just what you want the 5.3 client to default - secure
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:45 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
Oh, an easy one:-)
Go grab the SNA VMSSL enabler tool. It will save you a lot of headaches,
imho. Look on: www.sinenomine.net for more
I saw this link on your previous email, but it looked as if it would
only work with z/VM 5.3 ! We are still 5.2 . We plan to migrate
sometime
this year, but not before I need to start on this secure telnet
project.
Version 2.0 requires 5.3. Version 1.5 will work with 5.2 down to 3.1.
Ah, I will look into 1.5 then ... Thanks!
Tim
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:51 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM TCP/IP Secure Telnet
I saw this link on your previous
On May 5, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Tim Joyce wrote:
Ah, I will look into 1.5 then ... Thanks!
Actually, 1.2 is the latest 1.x release currently available.
There will probably eventually be a 1.3 release, but the updates are
minor; if you're not going to have more than 120 simultaneous users
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