On Friday, 12/14/2007 at 01:27 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
40x90 is not even an option offered by my emulator. What one do you use
and what other exotic sizes does it support?
IBM PCOMM, of course! :-) I get any size I want by editing the .ws file
and manually filling in
On Saturday, 12/15/2007 at 10:25 EST, Phil Smith III
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Do you know anyone in VM development?
Yes, though they won't admit it.
I have been ready for years to stop reformatting data to accomodate 80
columns. Back when we used Real 3270s, that was an issue. No longer.
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Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On Friday, 12/14/2007 at 01:27 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
40x90 is not even an option offered by my emulator. What one do you use
and what other exotic sizes does it support?
IBM PCOMM, of course! :-) I get any size I
Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, re scaling large numbers to 45K
etc.:
This is exactly the philosophy that CA's V/Seg-Plus uses to display
user/system spool file lists ... Just as an example where some users may
be able to see this in action!
To be fair (since I wrote that code), I
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 01:18 PM
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On my z/VM 5.3 system I have 9 characters. But this issue with large
Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could retire if a had a dollar, or certainly a euro, for every time I
heard the religious argument you have the full power of XEDIT. I
still have managed to keep a copy of the full strength FULIST and there
are very few times when I use filelist vs
Given the amount of time that filelist has been available, wouldn't it be
more prudent to be requesting the features you feel are lacking in filelist,
rather than trying to keep an old sagging horse alive?
Obviously, flist is still maintained, since it was changed in the current
release. But it
On Dec 14, 2007 1:28 PM, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And bemoaning, daily, the lack of similar functionality in Those Other
Operating Systems (no, Windows Explorer is NOT equivalent!)...
Oh dear... Just when I was going to offer a massive improvement for FLIST
It removes the
There are many appends about FLIST so I apologize if this has been
suggested before.
You can use the USE option of FLIST. This may give you the function you
want. It is explained in the HELP file and in the CMS Commands and
Utilities book. The book also shows an example of an FLISTS exec to
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:45:51 -0500, Colleen Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There are many appends about FLIST so I apologize if this has been
suggested before.
You can use the USE option of FLIST. This may give you the function you
want. It is explained in the HELP file and in the CMS
On: Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:08:11AM -0600,Brian Nielsen Wrote:
} As has been mentioned here before, KEDIT KEX are a wonderful versions of
} XEDIT REXX. What may not have been mentioned is that it also is an
I will second Brian's admiration of Kedit. For those who have Kedit and
are not
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:28:21 -0500, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
software.com wrote:
And bemoaning, daily, the lack of similar functionality in Those Other
Operating Systems (no, Windows Explorer is NOT equivalent!)...
soapbox
As has been mentioned here before, KEDIT KEX are a wonderful
Even better, make the random change with each use.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:37 AM
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On Dec 14, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:
I have been ready for years to stop reformatting data to accomodate 80
columns. Back when we used Real 3270s, that was an issue. No
longer. It
is time to take a bold step forward into the 1990s.
That's enough outta you, heretic.
80
I have been ready for years to stop reformatting data to accomodate 80
columns. Back when we used Real 3270s, that was an issue. No longer.
It
is time to take a bold step forward into the 1990s.
He's a witch! Burn him! (in best Monty Python style...)
-- db
The USE and MENU options don't get around the problem of the tiny input
area.
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Sent: December 14, 2007 09:46
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On Friday, 12/14/2007 at 12:40 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The USE and MENU options don?t get around the problem of the tiny input
area.
On my z/VM 5.3 system I have 9 characters. But this issue with large
disks threatens to get out of hand. Apparently the word isn't getting
around that
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On Friday, 12/14/2007 at 12:40 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The USE and MENU options don?t get around the problem of the tiny
input
area.
On my z/VM 5.3 system I have 9 characters. But this issue with large
disks threatens to get
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
On Dec 14, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:
I have been ready for years to stop reformatting data to accomodate 80
columns. Back when we used Real 3270s, that was an issue. No longer.
It is time to take a bold step forward into the 1990s.
That's
We have recently moved to z/VM 5.3 from z/VM 3.1. We are getting lots of
complaints about the FLIST command. The command entry area has changed
from 20 bytes down to 7 bytes. Yes, I know about PF11, but you used to
be able to enter quite a few commands within the 20 bytes. Does anybody
know if/how
Peter,
It's been going down steadily. On VM/ESA 2.4 it was 2 bytes. We
skipped ahead to z/VM 4.4 and it went down to 16 bytes. I complained
(ETR) and was told I could try the old VM/ESA FLIST module.
It worked, but the users were okay with 16 characters. Now we are z/VM
5.2 and it is down to 9
Er, that was supposed to be 22 bytes not '2'. (who is this guys editor??)
On 12/13/07, Ron Schmiedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter,
It's been going down steadily. On VM/ESA 2.4 it was 2 bytes. We
skipped ahead to z/VM 4.4 and it went down to 16 bytes. I complained
(ETR) and was told I could
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
Er, that was supposed to be 22 bytes not '2'. (who is this guys
editor??)
On 12/13/07, Ron Schmiedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter,
It's been going down steadily. On VM/ESA 2.4 it was 2 bytes. We
skipped ahead to z/VM 4.4 and it went down to 16 bytes. I complained
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
It wouldn't be so bad if IBM was using the space for something useful,
but it just seems to be empty 'wasted space'.
Peter
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
, 2007 16:36
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
Didn't know there was something other than FILELIST. Started looking
at FLIST. Would the PF11 key help? It looks like the PF11 key
increases the input area to end of line.
Paul
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That's very interesting, I've never used FLIST I've always used FILEL so I
never saw the change.
Rick Bourgeois
Virtual Software Systems, Inc.
7715 Browns Bridge Rd
Gainesville, GA 30506
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770-781-3200
Once upon a time, there was FLIST, but no FILELIST. Some of us
old-schoolers still prefer it.
Rick Bourgeois wrote:
That's very interesting, I've never used FLIST I've always used FILEL so I
never saw the change.
Rick Bourgeois
Virtual Software Systems, Inc.
7715 Browns Bridge Rd
, December 13, 2007 3:40 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
Yes, I know about PF11, but there are a lot of 'little' commands that
you can enter in the 20 bytes. It's just a little bit of productivity
lost for no gain.
Peter
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
I also agree with you that there looks to be a lot of empty space on
the screen. Moving a few fields to the right would increase the input
area.
Paul
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Yes, I know about PF11, but there are a lot of 'little' commands that
you can enter in the 20
Nope, never :-)
What I like about FLIST is I can easily set up the PF keys the way I
want (see FLIST $PROFILE). We have used this to give users customized
things they can do. Including removing the ability to edit the files
(ever have a user edit a listing to change the numbers on a report,
Schmiedge
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
Nope, never :-)
What I like about FLIST is I can easily set up the PF keys the way I
want (see FLIST $PROFILE). We have used this to give users customized
things they can do. Including
My favorite FLIST function is entering a bunch of commands and then hitting PF3
to exit FLIST and have the commands run.
Create the 2 files shown below, then use FL instead of FILEIST. Feel fre
e
to change the names to suit your taste.
FL EXEC
---
/* */
arg data
push 'set pf2 before macro execute cursor exec b'
'FILELIST' data
B EXEC
---
/* */
arg data
'browse' data
Brian Nielsen
Or just use this as your FILELIST profile:
/* */
'MACRO PROFFLST'
'set pf2 before macro execute cursor BROWSE'
(The below was QAD and didn't need the B EXEC.)
Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:37:29 -0600, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Create the 2 files shown below, then use
Cool! Thanks Brian. I guess I would still need to pull PROFFLST SXEDIT
apart and figure out how to change the description (still says
REFRESH)...
'execute cursor browse' works too without a B exec. I use the synonym
command to make BROWSE shorter when I have to type...
On 12/13/07, Brian Nielsen
You can use the following macro to set PF10 to BROWSE and even display it
at the bottom of the screen. I used PF10 just because it was available.
This macro is based on the example shown in the appendix of the CMS Command
and Utilities Reference.
/* MYFLIST XEDIT -- My FILELIST profile to add
Thanks Doug. Must be Christmas!
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but am I wrong in still thinking
that entering this line in FLIST $PROFILE:
*PFKEYS 10 BRW BROWSE the file on cursor line
and then updating the last line to include '10 BRW'
is a little simpler and easier?
Ron
On 12/13/07,
Hi Ron,
You are correct; it is easy to update FLIST $PROFILE for a PF key. Someone
on the list indicated that it would be useful if he could get a PF key for
BROWSE in FILELIST. I appended to show how this could be done. I am not
trying to convert anyone from FLIST to FILELIST. Both can get
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:40 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST
Yes, I know about PF11, but there are a lot of 'little' commands that
you can enter in the 20 bytes. It's just
On Thursday, 12/13/2007 at 05:55 EST, Doug Breneman/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You can use the following macro to set PF10 to BROWSE and even display
it at
the bottom of the screen.
If I may, here's mine:
/* Get the displayed PF key settings */
'EXTRACT /RESERVED'
pfrow1_idx =
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